Around The NHL Discussion 2019/20 - Part III

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If the playoffs started today, we'd play Nashville.

Had a quick look at their stats and wow, Petro has more points than Duchene, Johansen and Forsberg. :help: :nod:
Colorado is technically ahead of St Louis. The Blues would play Dallas. These races are so close it changes every day.

I think Pietro should be getting more noise for Norris consideration. Maybe it’s better for the team and salary considerations that he isn’t.
 
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Colorado is technically ahead of St Louis. The Blues would play Dallas. These races are so close it changes every day.

I think Pietro should be getting more noise for Norris consideration. Maybe it’s better for the team and salary considerations that he isn’t.
Well IF Pietro walks it doesnt affect Blues.
 

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so can a player hold his arm behind the blue-line and remain on-sides? his stick? Parayko could camp out 4 feet across the blue-line and drag his stick into the zone after the puck enters...
 

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so can a player hold his arm behind the blue-line and remain on-sides? his stick? Parayko could camp out 4 feet across the blue-line and drag his stick into the zone after the puck enters...
Wouldn't it make sense to still use the skates to determine on/offsides? Just give them a plane
 

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I have got absolutely no idea what they are proposing changing the rule to. The articles do very little to clarify. It currently reads like the rule change significantly favours the defence, which I think would be a mistake.
 

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I have got absolutely no idea what they are proposing changing the rule to. The articles do very little to clarify. It currently reads like the rule change significantly favours the defence, which I think would be a mistake.

Imagine there is a perpendicular line extending from the neutral zone side of the blue line all the way to the rafters. For a player to stay onside, all he has to do is keep part of the skate behind that vertical plane. All this changes is that the player doesn't have to try to get their back skate down to the ice to stay onside.

Edit: I don't know why I said neutral zone side of the blue line in this post and my next, I meant offensive zone side, as offside has always been determined.
 
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Imagine there is a perpendicular line extending from the neutral zone side of the blue line all the way to the rafters. For a player to stay onside, all he has to do is keep part of the skate behind that vertical plane. All this changes is that the player doesn't have to try to get their back skate down to the ice to stay onside.
Okay, that's better.

It's just when various places are describing it along the lines of...
The proposal – which will still need to be approved by the competition committee and BOG – would change the language of the rule to say a player only has to break the plane of the blue line to determine offside. The current version of the rule requires at least one skate to be “in contact with, or on his own side of the line” for the player to be onside.
The implication is that any part of the player breaks the plane of the blueline and it is offside, which would also make it far easier to determine and heavily favour the defensive side.

No idea why they aren't just describing it as removing the requirement for the skate to be on the ice to be deemed onside.
 

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Okay, that's better.

It's just when various places are describing it along the lines of...

The implication is that any part of the player breaks the plane of the blueline and it is offside, which would also make it far easier to determine and heavily favour the defensive side.

No idea why they aren't just describing it as removing the requirement for the skate to be on the ice to be deemed onside.

The proposal – which will still need to be approved by the competition committee and BOG – would change the language of the rule to say a player only has to break the plane of the blue line to determine offside. The current version of the rule requires at least one skate to be “in contact with, or on his own side of the line” for the player to be onside.

Based off the quote you pulled, I think the confusion is that they don't say "completely" break the plane which, I believe, is what they mean. It's essentially saying as long as they hold part of their skate (or any body part? Not sure) behind that vertical plane perpendicular to the offensive zone side of the blue line, they're good.

I think the most confusing part of the whole thing is them comparing it to the football rule. It's actually the opposite of that rule and comparing it to such has people confused. That comparison makes it seem like any part of the body crossing the blue line makes a player offside.
 
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Hoping the Ducks pulloff an upset against the Avs tonight. Don't think that is likely.

Ducks missing their top 4 Dmen. Unreal.
 

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I'm really starting to dislike Colorado.

Love how the Ducks aren't backing down. Out 4 top Dmen and it's 3-3 in the 3rd. Playing the Avs physically after playing last night.

Avs are all McKinnon and not all that tough.
 

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I think the Avs will take this one after one last big push, but it's nice to see the Avs are not that great if you take it to them physically.
 
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He didn't score, but Nathan Mackinnon just absolutely turnsytled Getzlaf in OT. Allen Iverson level juke. Was really sick.

EDIT: And now the Ducks win in OT. The Ducks played a pretty terrible game, but some puck luck, good goaltending by Ryan Miller, and an f***ing dart by Rakell in OT pulled it off. Blues still barely in first place.
 
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Oh wow oh wow! Ducks pull out the win with 1.2 seconds left in OT. And the Avalanche win streak ends with a charity point.

Great play by Ryan Miller in this third period and OT too.
 
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