OT: Around the NHL - CONGRATS ST. LOUIS BLUES!

[Honour Over Glory]

Thats gotta be like a record for a GM. Man was he bad.

That moron destroyed the wild within 1 season and set them back worse than the oilers. That's impressive actually.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Can someone how players choose an organization to join after retirement. He spent a single season with the Hawks after being given his first chance (and first Cup) with the Ducks, followed by close to a decade (including three more Cup) with the Pens.

Well I think part of it is relational. Maybe Kunitz was closer with Botts vs JR? Or perhaps he connected w/ someone in the Chic front office?

Could also be that he reached out to the Pens and they said "sorry, we're full on player development coaches"

 

[KIRK]

That moron destroyed the wild within 1 season and set them back worse than the oilers. That's impressive actually.

So, you're saying . . . Chia is going to be the next Wild GM, just to finish the job?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

So, you're saying . . . Chia is going to be the next Wild GM, just to finish the job?

The final curb stomp to their future. Yes.

 

[BHD]

That moron destroyed the wild within 1 season and set them back worse than the oilers. That's impressive actually.

Indeed.

 

[BHD]

I'm sure the "lizard" comment sealed his fate.

 

[KIRK]

Indeed.

Jokes aside, he apprenticed under Poile in Nashville. One wouldn't think that would be the training background for perhaps the most inept GM since Milbury.

 

[Andy99]

Well I think part of it is relational. Maybe Kunitz was closer with Botts vs JR? Or perhaps he connected w/ someone in the Chic front office?

Could also be that he reached out to the Pens and they said "sorry, we're full on player development coaches"

His wife’s family is from Chicago...that’s why he went there to begin with...

 

[BHD]

Jokes aside, he apprenticed under Poile in Nashville. One wouldn't think that would be the training background for perhaps the most inept GM since Milbury.

That is the saddest part of his time as GM. He spent years working with one of the best in the business.

 

[Andy99]

So, you're saying . . . Chia is going to be the next Wild GM, just to finish the job?

Hopefully the Wild pursue JR hard and he brings some of the contracts he signed the last two years here with him...

 

[KIRK]

That is the saddest part of his time as GM. He spent years working with one of the best in the business.

Exactly, his background was a lot like Shero.

 

[KIRK]

Hopefully the Wild pursue JR hard and he brings some of the contracts he signed the last two years here with him...

JR isn't leaving, but if we're lucky, maybe Leopold will circle back to Guerin. And if we're REALLY lucky, maybe Guerin takes Recchi with him.

 

[Freeptop]

JR isn't leaving, but if we're lucky, maybe Leopold will circle back to Guerin. And if we're REALLY lucky, maybe Guerin takes Recchi with him.

And if we get a miracle, they'll decide that what the Wild really need is Jack Johnson!

 

[Gurglesons]

I can’t believe they fired Fenton after one season after keeping Patrick forever and letting him nose dive that team.

 

[BHD]

That’s how bad of a job he was doing. Besides, numerous players were commenting on the “direction” of the organization. That says it all.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Fenton? more like Fentoff now amirite

 

[Randy Butternubs]

But why wait til after Free Agency begins to fire him? The MZA contract isn't abysmal and Hartman is very reasonable. I guess it was more behind-the-scenes stuff?

 

[BHD]

But why wait til after Free Agency begins to fire him? The MZA contract isn't abysmal and Hartman is very reasonable. I guess it was more behind-the-scenes stuff?

That's the vibe I'm getting.

As for the Zucc contract, it's more to do with where the team is at. He signed an older player to a long-term contract after making all of those trades.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Indeed.

I was calling his firing sooner, the fact it took this long is embarrassing for that franchise. The guys they lost are hard to replace and the guys they got are a joke. Donato might be a damn good player though. But Rask? Ouch. A new gm basically has to come in and try to get as much back to get fans excited because if I'm a wild fan, this shit is depressing.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

That's the vibe I'm getting.

As for the Zucc contract, it's more to do with where the team is at. He signed an older player to a long-term contract after making all of those trades.

Oh easily. It looked like he pissed off people there and when everyone was interviewed it was painfully obvious. Apparently he also had no real game plan at all. Like none. No clue.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I'd love to take a sabbatical from my job to do a season in the GM's office. Any team. And no, not THE GM. Just assist them.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

How are the Pens going to bring Kunitz back if he has retired?

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

How are the Pens going to bring Kunitz back if he has retired?

I mean Mario did it once, and he's got less cups than Kunitz (as a player)

 

[BHD]

Here's what Leipold had to say, per TSN...

"It wasn't a good fit. That was really it. The culture wasn't the same," Leipold said. "I didn't have the same vibes with our employees in hockey ops, and I think the attitude of some of the players and all the people and the coaching and in the locker room and in the training room, it was just a feeling that we didn't have the right leader for our organization."

 

[mpp9]

The Wild are in hockey purgatory. They're not good enough to win a Cup and never were. But they're not bad enough to get a legit franchise changing player. That's the issue more than any GM.