Around the NHL #5 (The Mike Smith Tracking Thread Returns)

[Jamieh]

Did NJ just get more for Coleman than they did for Hall? Shows how valuable Cap Space is.

 

[_Del_]

Did NJ just get more for Coleman than they did for Hall? Shows how valuable Cap Space is.

Coleman is severely underrated. Great on the PK, scoring threat 5v5 with next to no PP time. Great two-way player.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

just an fyi Nick Merkley got his 1st NHL goal tonight

 

[moosemeister]

Wait we traded Merkley?

 

[moosemeister]

Also looks like Nashville is about to storm past AZ here in a few games

 

[MIGs Dog]

Wait we traded Merkley?

Hope we got someone good in return.

 

[Jakey53]

Coleman is severely underrated. Great on the PK, scoring threat 5v5 with next to no PP time. Great two-way player.

So is Stepan, so I've been told. We should make out like bandits it we trade him.

 

[Mosby]

I wouldn’t have given up one of those pieces for Coleman, let alone both. Wtf.

If it’s a sellers market like this I hope we cast off some spare pieces but still try to compete for a playoff spot.

 

[Prarievarg]

I wouldn’t have given up one of those pieces for Coleman, let alone both. Wtf.

A player like Coleman, on a cheap contract for another year is worth a lot for a team like Tampa. I can see why they did it. I don't see this trade as an indication that prices for rentals or spare parts are high.

 

[Mosby]

I think Andy Greene got a generous return too.

 

[TheLegend]

Toffoli to Vancouver.

Per Dreger.

 

[rt]

Kind of outrageous that AZ has 4 games in hand on Nashville.

 

[Jakey53]

Kind of outrageous that AZ has 4 games in hand on Nashville.

I think you got that backwards.

 

[TheLegend]

 

[rt]

I think you got that backwards.

Indeed. I meant it the other way.

 

[rt]

Seems like a comparative bargain when considering Coleman.

 

[XX]

Seems like a comparative bargain when considering Coleman.

Coleman drives the play and is a defensive stud, Toffoli is a very mediocre top 6 winger in every respect.

The price the Lightning paid in this trade doesn’t seem on the surface to support the idea that Coleman is undervalued. But in another way, he is. He’s in the second year of a three year deal that only pays him $1.8 million per season. When he signed that deal, he’d already posted one excellent season in which he was the second best defensive forward in the NHL and 65th best overall according to Wins Above Replacement from Evolving Hockey. Those are first line impacts.

He didn’t quite sustain that level last year but he’s back to being excellent this season posting top ten defensive impacts in terms of expected goals both at even strength and while shorthanded. By WAR, he’s posted the 14th best even strength defensive results and is 39th in total WAR among forwards in the entire NHL. Again, those are comfortably first line impacts.

Trade Analysis: Blake Coleman is a perfect if pricey fit for a win now Lightning team

 

[rt]

I like Coleman a bunch. I don’t like Toffoli much at all. Usually that doesn’t matter. Haha.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

McDavid, Rantanen and Boeser all out for a few weeks. McDavid 2-3, Boeser at least 3, and Rantanen is "weeks".

 

[Prarievarg]

McDavid, Rantanen and Boeser all out for a few weeks. McDavid 2-3, Boeser at least 3, and Rantanen is "weeks".

I don't know if it's OK to like this. Sorry if I angered the hockey gods.

 

[87turbobuick]

I don't know if it's OK to like this. Sorry if I angered the hockey gods.

The hockey gods have never liked us, except for a brief time in 2012.

 

[MIGs Dog]

The hockey gods have never liked us, except for a brief time in 2012.

Especially the draft lottery God, who bleeds Oiler blue.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

The hockey gods have never liked us, except for a brief time in 2012.

I'm not sure I call losing the Conference Final on a cheap shot that should have been a penalty, delivered by a member of our most hated rival, evidence of the hockey gods "liking us."

 

[Jamieh]

 

[Jakey53]

Their best player and now their best D. WOW.