Around the League: 2019 Offseason || Part 2

[MS]

Both trades were for a first line quality forward on a value contract for two playoff runs, and returned an inferior, but young and cost controlled player. Bonino and Kesler were a bit older, than Fiala and Granlund respectively. Fiala's production over the past two years was nearly identical to Bonino's production in the two years before he was traded (Bonino's was in lower scoring years).

1) Kesler at the time was a *far* better player than Granlund.

2) Fiala was 22 at the time of the trade as opposed to 26 and has substantially more upside and length of team control than Bonino.

It would be comparable to trading Kesler for a Tarasenko/Kane/Schenn level player straight up in 2014. Or Mikael Granlund himself at that time.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

But Benning is a draft guru!

Good for Minny. If it walks like an idiot and talks like an idiot...

 

[ProstheticConscience]

So some NHL team owners fire GMs for incompetence? What is this madness?!

 

[mriswith]

Although the reports out of Philadelphia make him sound insane to work with, I still like what Hextall did in Philly. Flushed the bad contracts, turned a barren pipeline into one flush with prospects and built one of the top young d-cores in the league.

If Ron Francis and Hextall are both gone, who is even left?

Fiala for Granlund is like if the Canucks got Bonino and nothing else in the Kesler trade.

Probably more like if we got Theodore + 1st for Kesler if you take into account both Kesler being much better but also having a NTC. Fiala's young, good and has a shot at being a core piece, Bonino was older and clearly a veteran meant to plug a hole as a complementary guy.

 

[Bleach Clean]

They won’t even pay Condon 3m for one year.
No way Loui gets traded to Ottawa

Doesn’t this make Eriksson more palatable to OTT if they can give Ryan back? They save about 8.5m in real money in the exchange.

 

[DFAC]

Man, this cap stuff hurts my brain

 

[tantalum]

The Wild own a mistake. The Canucks from ownership on down double down on them.

 

[StreetHawk]

Doesn’t this make Eriksson more palatable to OTT if they can give Ryan back? They save about 8.5m in real money in the exchange.

Don’t see how Vancouver can absorb another $1.25 mill in cap space. Have to send Sven or someone else out too.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Don’t see how Vancouver can absorb another $1.25 mill in cap space. Have to send Sven or someone else out too.

Do you know what they are paying Boeser?

 

[StreetHawk]

Do you know what they are paying Boeser?

Not just Boeser. Need to account for space for EP performance bonuses unless it’s just going to get pushed to next season. Hughes as well.

Don’t expect Boeser back for any less than Meiers $6 mill.

 

[Peter10]

Not just Boeser. Need to account for space for EP performance bonuses unless it’s just going to get pushed to next season. Hughes as well.

Don’t expect Boeser back for any less than Meiers $6 mill.

They are pretty much in a position where any potential bonuses for EP and Hughes will have to be carried over once they sign Boeser. As it looks right now they will have to use LTIR cap relief to start the season, so dont have much hope for any savings.

 

[Bleach Clean]

They are pretty much in a position where any potential bonuses for EP and Hughes will have to be carried over once they sign Boeser. As it looks right now they will have to use LTIR cap relief to start the season, so dont have much hope for any savings.

That's the way it seems to me as well.

Not just Boeser. Need to account for space for EP performance bonuses unless it’s just going to get pushed to next season. Hughes as well.

Don’t expect Boeser back for any less than Meiers $6 mill.

Depends upon how short they go on the bridge deal.

I think until we know what Boeser comes back for, a deal involving an extra 1m to 2m extra cap space is definitely on the table.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

That's the way it seems to me as well.





Depends upon how short they go on the bridge deal.

I think until we know what Boeser comes back for, a deal involving an extra 1m to 2m extra cap space is definitely on the table.

Also Brock’s dad just got diagnosed with cancer, don’t expect him to sign anytime soon

 

[vancityluongo]

28 points last season, 30 years old. Can't say I followed the Rangers; is this a pure cap move or did he really fall off a cliff to the point of being a replacement level player?

Either way he won't sign here and we have no cap space, but he's a RH shot and can play the PP. Trade Tanev for picks and sign Shattenkirk?

Edler - Myers
Hughes - Shattenkirk
Benn - Stecher
Biega

 

[StreetHawk]

He must have fallen bad as the rangers eat $6.1 mill in dead cap next season due to the buyout. No team wanted him for $3.3 cap hit for 2 years.

 

[timw33]

He must have fallen bad as the rangers eat $6.1 mill in dead cap next season due to the buyout. No team wanted him for $3.3 cap hit for 2 years.

So they're only going to save 550k in cap hit next year? Bizarre. Rangers are going to be carrying $10MM of buyouts next year with Girardi, Shattenkirk, Spooner.

 

[StreetHawk]

So they're only going to save 550k in cap hit next year? Bizarre. Rangers are going to be carrying $10MM of buyouts next year with Girardi, Shattenkirk, Spooner.

He had signing bonus and a front loaded deal most likely which is why the buyout hits hard next season.

When you structure a deal like that (Eriksson cough cough) going to take a big hit at some point during the buyout years.

 

[vancityluongo]

So they're only going to save 550k in cap hit next year? Bizarre. Rangers are going to be carrying $10MM of buyouts next year with Girardi, Shattenkirk, Spooner.

That is weird.

Again, no idea where Shattenkirk's game is at, but with where this team is at, Tanev anywhere for a low 2nd and Shattenkirk @ 50% + a 3rd for a conditional 7th seems like a very reasonable way for this team to pick up a 2nd and 3rd round pick, while giving the Rangers more cap space.

 

[timw33]

He had signing bonus and a front loaded deal most likely which is why the buyout hits hard next season.

When you structure a deal like that (Eriksson cough cough) going to take a big hit at some point during the buyout years.

Oh hold on, it's 1.43MM Year 1, 3, 4 and $6.083MM Year 2, so they've solved their issues for this year (now under cap) but have big hit next year. Luckily the Girardi buyout dips down from 3.6MM to 1.1MM after this year.

 

[timw33]

Here's the Cap Friendly buyout report, so this move does in fact solve their cap issues immediately, they just have to take a big hit next year, which should be alright with Strome Namestnikov Belesky deals being done and replacing with ELC/cheap depth.

 

[StreetHawk]

Oh hold on, it's 1.43MM Year 1, 3, 4 and $6.083MM Year 2, so they've solved their issues for this year (now under cap) but have big hit next year. Luckily the Girardi buyout dips down from 3.6MM to 1.1MM after this year.

Yes.

Had $2 mill SB next season plus they paid him $2.7 mill more than his cap hit in his first 2 seasons. Add this $4.7 mill to year 2 of the buyout. Only the buyout of the remaining salary is evenly spread out. But you take a hit on the SB and any front loaded contract.

His contract was designed to be traded to a floor team but his play dropped too much before the final year and NYR went on a spending spree to finish their rebuild.

I’m not too familiar with the year that they do the front loaded contract catchup. Example, Colorado bought out Orpik for $3 mill of his $4.5 mill salary. His cap hit was $5.5 so Colorado had to eat the extra $1 mill he had been paid by the caps. His cap hit this year is $1.5 mill so Colorado are the extra $1 mill last season so they took a $2.5 mill hit on him last season.

Maybe it’s when the buyout occurred as they bought him out in June which pushes the catchup immediately whereas the 2nd window pushes it back a year.

 

[Melvin]

Here's the Cap Friendly buyout report, so this move does in fact solve their cap issues immediately, they just have to take a big hit next year, which should be alright with Strome Namestnikov Belesky deals being done and replacing with ELC/cheap depth.

Gee who would have guess blah blah blah

 

[HankNDank]

I bet Gardner's camp is upset with that buyout. No longer a monopoly on Ufa Rd.

 

[Boose Brudreau]

I bet Gardner's camp is upset with that buyout. No longer a monopoly on Ufa Rd.

Gardiner's a lefty

 

[lousy]

Yes.

If you won't spend the time to backup your claims I won't take them seriously. What a waste of time your posts are.

I know this is a little late [MOD] You cherry picked three great players and used them as "proof" that this will apply to a player who has done well in the khl. If you cannot see that this does not prove anything then I will bow out.