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Around the League - 2019/20 Season Edition #2

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Well, Islanders, Jackets, Canes all got points tonight.

Need a Minnesota win over Florida in regulation tomorrow.

Also would be hilarious if Columbus finishes in the playoffs ahead of the Rangers or Florida. A defense with Werenski and Jones can do anything I guess.
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Well, Islanders, Jackets, Canes all got points tonight.

Need a Minnesota win over Florida in regulation tomorrow.

Also would be hilarious if Columbus finishes in the playoffs ahead of the Rangers or Florida. A defense with Werenski and Jones can do anything I guess.
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Columbus lowest GA in the Atlantic at 127 vs Leafs at 165. It’s easier and more cap feasible to win 2-1 than 8-6.
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Well, Islanders, Jackets, Canes all got points tonight.

Need a Minnesota win over Florida in regulation tomorrow.

Also would be hilarious if Columbus finishes in the playoffs ahead of the Rangers or Florida. A defense with Werenski and Jones can do anything I guess.
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The tranquil Tortorella is actually an awesome coach.
 

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Columbus lowest GA in the Atlantic at 127 vs Leafs at 165. It’s easier and more cap feasible to win 2-1 than 8-6.
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More cap feasible? not really, we all play under the same cap. Easier, maybe, but you also need a lot of luck and the right coach/players for that to happen.

You can win with skilled teams that suck on defense too though. The Pens won 3 cups with a top heavy lineup and really weak back ends. We don't have a Crosby but we have 4 guys that can help carry us if they get hot in the playoffs.
 
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More cap feasible? not really, we all play under the same cap. Easier, maybe, but you also need a lot of luck and the right coach/players for that to happen.

You can win with skilled teams that suck on defense too though. The Pens won 3 cups with a top heavy lineup and really weak back ends. We don't have a Crosby but we have 4 guys that can help carry us if they get hot in the playoffs.
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I disagree. First of all Crosby/Malkin/Kessel have proven much more playoff elite to start. But even that wasn't all.
Everyone says Pittsburgh won with that defense but forget to mention they had 2 .930 goalies or they don't win with that defense.

And yes it is much cheaper to build a team that wins 2-1. A solid defensive team that can then add a Matthews/Nylander whatever.
Rather than needing more 7 million dollar forwards to win 8-6 or no money for goalie/D. Because we will see if we can outscore our playoff problems.
 

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I disagree. First of all Crosby/Malkin/Kessel have proven much more playoff elite to start. But even that wasn't all.
Everyone says Pittsburgh won with that defense but forget to mention they had 2 .930 goalies or they don't win with that defense.

And yes it is much cheaper to build a team that wins 2-1. A solid defensive team that can then add a Matthews/Nylander whatever.
Rather than needing more 7 million dollar forwards to win 8-6 or no money for goalie/D. Because we will see if we can outscore our playoff problems.
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Columbus doesn't have any more cap space than we do and I like our depth better than theirs. Not sure how exactly it's cheaper to pay their crappier players more money than we do. Giving a bumb $4M of Matthews money wouldn't make us better.

and on the Pittsburgh point, that's exactly what I'n saying. Our defense is better than at least one of those Pittsburgh teams. So if we can score and Freddy plays well we have as good a chance as anybody.
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Columbus doesn't have any more cap space than we do and I like our depth better than theirs. Not sure how exactly it's cheaper to pay their crappier players more money than we do. Giving a bumb $4M of Matthews money wouldn't make us better.

and on the Pittsburgh point, that's exactly what I'n saying. Our defense is better than at least one of those Pittsburgh teams. So if we can score and Freddy plays well we have as good a chance as anybody.
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What Pittsburgh has that we don’t is they know how to win. They know how to win hurt, they know how to change their game vs. opponents, they know how to fight through adversity and know how to get it together if they don’t start on time.

So far we get quotes about urgency, immature, starting on time, look in the mirror, etc. Learn that or it won’t matter. That’s an individual and team talent that doesn’t show up on advanced stats.
 
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Trapper said:
I disagree. First of all Crosby/Malkin/Kessel have proven much more playoff elite to start. But even that wasn't all.
Everyone says Pittsburgh won with that defense but forget to mention they had 2 .930 goalies or they don't win with that defense.

And yes it is much cheaper to build a team that wins 2-1. A solid defensive team that can then add a Matthews/Nylander whatever.
Rather than needing more 7 million dollar forwards to win 8-6 or no money for goalie/D. Because we will see if we can outscore our playoff problems.
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It may be cheaper, but its also a lot harder to do things that way. Talent like Matthews is pretty much impossible to get in thr NHL, onky abfee teams at the right place and time can ever get players like that.

Imo theres never a clear path to building a team the "right way", youve just got to make do and you go along with the assets you have availible.
 
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Trapper said:
I disagree. First of all Crosby/Malkin/Kessel have proven much more playoff elite to start. But even that wasn't all.
Everyone says Pittsburgh won with that defense but forget to mention they had 2 .930 goalies or they don't win with that defense.

And yes it is much cheaper to build a team that wins 2-1. A solid defensive team that can then add a Matthews/Nylander whatever.
Rather than needing more 7 million dollar forwards to win 8-6 or no money for goalie/D. Because we will see if we can outscore our playoff problems.
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Pittsburgh in 2016 was one of the best teams defensively in the league after Sullivan took over. They had guys like Bonino, Cullen, Hagelin, Rust, Kuhnhackl, Cole, Lovejoy, Dumoulin. That team lead the league in blocked shots too if I remember correctly, certainly did in the playoffs. They were an extremely fast team, but they used that speed to pressure defensively too. In 2017 they were more of a traditional counter-attack team without Letang but were still very structured in their approach. The Leafs now are closer to the early Boudreau Caps in how they play than the Sullivan Penguins.
 

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Kadri leads Avalanche to another victory. Up to 19 goals already looks like the move was great for him to get out of T.O he's a much more complete player now.
 
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Philadelphia, Carolina both leading in tonight's action. Leaving the Leafs in the dust.
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Well, Islanders, Jackets, Canes all got points tonight.

Need a Minnesota win over Florida in regulation tomorrow.

Also would be hilarious if Columbus finishes in the playoffs ahead of the Rangers or Florida. A defense with Werenski and Jones can do anything I guess.
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Trapper said:
Columbus lowest GA in the Atlantic at 127 vs Leafs at 165. It’s easier and more cap feasible to win 2-1 than 8-6.
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Good goaltending too. They've really ascended in the standings.
 
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Florida up 3 - 0, Leafs are Toast if they don't get it together soon.
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They have 3 more games against Florida...they need to win all 3 games, period. Can't be fooling around sun-tanning, golfing, and getting blown out again.
 
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