Around the League 2018-19

[Joe Hallenback]

Too bad they will still suck

 

[jetsforever]

So Buffalo basically replaced half of their team with new players now...

6 F -- Skinner, Sheary, Mittelstadt, Sobotka, Berglund, Thompson. Plus possibly Nylander or Olofsson.
2 D -- Dahlin, Hunwick. Plus possibly Hickey.
1 G -- Hutton.

Quite some turnover.

They certainly needed some turnover. Add these new guys to ROR, Eichel, Risto and maybe they have a decent team - probably won't make the playoffs still, but it could be a step in the right direction.

 

[bumblebeeman]

Did anyone else see the Score article ranking the top 16 teams into tiers. Jets were in the top tier with Nashville and Tampa! This is such a weird feeling to have my favorite sports team ever being predicted to be a Stanley Cup favorite.

 

[puck stoppa]

They certainly needed some turnover. Add these new guys to ROR, Eichel, Risto and maybe they have a decent team - probably won't make the playoffs still, but it could be a step in the right direction.

Isn't ROR gone?

 

[puck stoppa]

Did anyone else see the Score article ranking the top 16 teams into tiers. Jets were in the top tier with Nashville and Tampa! This is such a weird feeling to have my favorite sports team ever being predicted to be a Stanley Cup favorite.

One thing fans forget about our team is that the young kids will only improve and contribute more, that's always tough to account for.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

WTF is Carolina doing?

Going out - Top Line Winger

Coming In - ZERO NHL Assets

Is Waddel proposing trades on HF boards?

 

[puck stoppa]

WTF is Carolina doing?

Going out - Top Line Winger

Coming In - ZERO NHL Assets

Is Waddel proposing trades on HF boards?

Making room for Karlsson lol

 

[MardyBum]

Pu's a decent prospect, and the 2nd will probably be early 30's, but damn.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

 

[EpicGingy]

[Removed for inaccuracy despite the fact it's enshrined in quotes].

I know Skinner is a pending UFA soon but what a garbage return.

 

[KingBogo]

Remember when people argued whether or not TNSE should have kept Waddel?

I know Skinner is a pending UFA soon but what a garbage return.

Yep. A little foreshadowing of the pennies on the dollar we will get for Trouba if we hold on too long. Once everyone knows a player wants out and has a clear path to UFA status returns diminish quickly. No accident the Sens can't get a decent bite on Karlsson one of the top couple d-man in the league.

 

[HannuJ]

but can Skinner play D?
Buffalo needs, like, 4 more.

 

[EpicGingy]

Yep. A little foreshadowing of the pennies on the dollar we will get for Trouba if we hold on too long. Once everyone knows a player wants out and has a clear path to UFA status returns diminish quickly. No accident the Sens can't get a decent bite on Karlsson one of the top couple d-man in the league.

Trouba's trade value is definitely diminished but I'd still expect a greater sort of return than this if we were to trade him next summer. Trade deadline deals regularly get more than this.

 

[Whileee]

Trouba's trade value is definitely diminished but I'd still expect a greater sort of return than this if we were to trade him next summer. Trade deadline deals regularly get more than this.

Good point. I'd expect more at the trade deadline for a scorer like Skinner than the Canes got for him.

Having Trouba for a key year has significant value.

 

[trebendan]

WTF is Carolina doing?

Going out - Top Line Winger

Coming In - ZERO NHL Assets

Is Waddel proposing trades on HF boards?

Has Dundon told Waddell to get down to the floor? Like KC & the Sunshine Band used to sing - "Get Down Tonight!"

 

[trebendan]

WTF is Carolina doing?

Going out - Top Line Winger

Coming In - ZERO NHL Assets

Is Waddel proposing trades on HF boards?

Feels like Canes are about to flip these assets - maybe for Pacioretty.

 

[KingBogo]

Good point. I'd expect more at the trade deadline for a scorer like Skinner than the Canes got for him.

Having Trouba for a key year has significant value.

That's part of the problem for any Trouba deal. As a strong contender the Jets will never trade him at the TD so that heightened rental value window doesn't really exist for them. Unless things go unexpectedly off the rails Trouba is either traded this off season or next at a reduced value or held on for 2 years with no residual value. Unless he is in Norris contention he will lose value with each season. I get the idea of maximizing this season, I just don't buy this as being our best window. With the talent we have aged 20 - 25 years, a lot of it already signed to value deals it would be a mistake IMO to treat this year as a must win and not be patient and load up on cheaper young talent to support a juggernaut core in a couple seasons. Our peak window should be when Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, Rosie, Morrissey and Helly are all in their primes at the same time.

The kicker is we would still have enough talent to have a punchers chance for a couple years building up to this.

 

[jetsforever]

Isn't ROR gone?

Oh yeah, forgot about that. The idea still applies though, they have some good players.

 

[Mathil8]

Did anyone else see the Score article ranking the top 16 teams into tiers. Jets were in the top tier with Nashville and Tampa! This is such a weird feeling to have my favorite sports team ever being predicted to be a Stanley Cup favorite.

Something special is brewing in Manitoba. The Jets, who had their first taste of playoff success this spring, are stacked at forward (even without Paul Stastny), own an underappreciated defense, and boast one of the top 25-or-under goalies in Connor Hellebuyck. There isn't a club with a better mix of young and old, and GM Kevin Cheveldayoff has cap room.

I was enjoying that article until they closed the Jets' portion saying we had cap room

Ranking NHL teams by tiers: The August top 16

 

[bumblebeeman]

I was enjoying that article until they closed the Jets' portion saying we had cap room

Ranking NHL teams by tiers: The August top 16

Yes totally haha. I just told me brain to pretend that I didn't read that part. Still, Jets getting some love is a nice change

 

[ps241]

Weren't the fans talking about Skinner as if he was the next captain? New ownership meddling? That trade looks terrible for Carolina.

The Canes owner seems like he is overconfident in his abilities. Time will tell if my read on him is off

 

[ps241]

Good point. I'd expect more at the trade deadline for a scorer like Skinner than the Canes got for him.

Having Trouba for a key year has significant value.

Agree they could have got more at the TD unless Skinner got injured of coarse. This feels like saving money might have been a top priority.

 

[GJF]

Remember when people argued whether or not TNSE should have kept Waddel?

I know Skinner is a pending UFA soon but what a garbage return.

What? No?! That never was the case since Rick Dudley was the Thrashers GM before they moved to the Jets... Waddell is and was a bad GM and many people called it when he was presented in Carolina. Pretty much everyone of his trades in Atlanta was bad to awful.

Also, am I the only one feeling like Skinner and Buffalo feels like something that was bound to happen? Somehow I always associate the Sabres with smaller players. Probably because of the long time they had Ennis I assume.

 

[Duke749]

Remember when people argued whether or not TNSE should have kept Waddel?

I know Skinner is a pending UFA soon but what a garbage return.

I don’t think anyone was saying that. Waddell wasn’t even the GM.

 

[EpicGingy]

What? No?! That never was the case since Rick Dudley was the Thrashers GM before they moved to the Jets... Waddell is and was a bad GM and many people called it when he was presented in Carolina. Pretty much everyone of his trades in Atlanta was bad to awful.

Also, am I the only one feeling like Skinner and Buffalo feels like something that was bound to happen? Somehow I always associate the Sabres with smaller players. Probably because of the long time they had Ennis I assume.

I don’t think anyone was saying that. Waddell wasn’t even the GM.

My bad lol. Please excuse my poor memory.