Around Hockey XXI (All Non-Jackets Hockey talk in here)

[Theo Von]

Throwing Holtby’s playoff performance from last season aside.. here is his combined last season and this season stats:

62 games:

33 quality starts.
3.04 GAA.
.905 save percentage.
1 shutout.

Wow.

 

[We Want Ten]

Wow a coach fired for underperforming. Weird.

 

[Theo Von]

 

[MAHJ71]

Lucic gonna Lucic

 

[MoeBartoli]

Today an arbitrator reduced Tom Wilson's 20 game suspension to 14 (even though he's already missed 16). Having been in loved in arbitration in the past, I guess I'm not surprised......though disappointed.

 

[EspenK]

Today an arbitrator reduced Tom Wilson's 20 game suspension to 14 (even though he's already missed 16). Having been in loved in arbitration in the past, I guess I'm not surprised......though disappointed.

Apparently the arb is a serial reducer. Capitals' Tom Wilson eligible to return after arbitrator reduces suspension to 14 games

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Anyone else surprised Nylander is still holding out? The December 1st deadline is coming up real fast

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Anyone else surprised Nylander is still holding out? The December 1st deadline is coming up real fast

Hmmm...nah. I bet many players are watching this.

I wonder what the Leaves think

 

[Theo Von]

The Pens suck.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

The Pens suck.

Pens? More like the Pencils!!

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Kings/Pens trade.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Good deal for Pittsburgh

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Good deal for Pittsburgh

Is it though?

 

[major major]

Pearson hasn't been good in a long time, this is just a shakeup trade for the Pens. Meanwhile it gets the Kings speed, something they really needed.

 

[Viqsi]

Anyone else surprised Nylander is still holding out? The December 1st deadline is coming up real fast

And there's more than a little crazy surrounding that. One poster in the threads discussing same honest to G-d said that, when asked about blueliners that they'd consider fitting returns for Nylander, started listing names like Matt Dumba, Dougie Hamiton, and Seth Jones.

 

[Sabo0290]

And there's more than a little crazy surrounding that. One poster in the threads discussing same honest to G-d said that, when asked about blueliners that they'd consider fitting returns for Nylander, started listing names like Matt Dumba, Dougie Hamiton, and Seth Jones.

Something tells me that will never happen. I can't recall exactly which one (because I listen to far to many, maybe 31 thoughts? The Hockey News?) but even Florida wouldn't go for a Matheson for Nylander deal.

 

[EspenK]

Hitch is back...

Oilers fire Todd McLellan, install Ken Hitchcock, in fourth NHL coaching change this season

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Is it though?

Yeah, I think so. Hagelin is nice but Pearson gives them higher end potential. Usually works out for them.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Hitch is back...

 

[major major]

Hitch to Edmonton smacks of desperation. His effectiveness has fallen with each successive stop. Mclellan's schemes were not the problem in Edmonton, the personnel was. I watch a lot of Oilers games and that team has to work really hard just to stay at .500.

Chia's days are numbered.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Hitch to Edmonton smacks of desperation. His effectiveness has fallen with each successive stop. Mclellan's schemes were not the problem in Edmonton, the personnel was. I watch a lot of Oilers games and that team has to work really hard just to stay at .500.

Chia's days are numbered.

I can see how this has the look of desperation, the Oilers are a desperate team. There was certainly nothing to indicate McLellan was going to turn it around. While Hitch's time may be of an earlier time, the Oilers defense is a problem and Hitchcock teams almost always become better at that end and i suspect he will do the same with Edmonton. That alone may not offset their offensive shortfalls beyond the top two lines. But I do think they'll battle for the 3rd spot in the Pacific.

 

[major major]

I can see how this has the look of desperation, the Oilers are a desperate team. There was certainly nothing to indicate McLellan was going to turn it around. While Hitch's time may be of an earlier time, the Oilers defense is a problem and Hitchcock teams almost always become better at that end and i suspect he will do the same with Edmonton. That alone may not offset their offensive shortfalls beyond the top two lines. But I do think they'll battle for the 3rd spot in the Pacific.

I'd agree but I think they're not a bad team without the puck. They check well. Hitch's strengths as a coach have been in fixing problems that the Oilers don't have.

I could be wrong but I don't remember Hitch making players better passers - which is more the issue in Edmonton. Their D defend okay but can't transition.

 

[MoeBartoli]

I'd agree but I think they're not a bad team without the puck. They check well. Hitch's strengths as a coach have been in fixing problems that the Oilers don't have.

I could be wrong but I don't remember Hitch making players better passers - which is more the issue in Edmonton. Their D defend okay but can't transition.

I dunno MM....check out the Goalie GAAs. Now I’m looking at stats where you’ve watched them more, but the GAAs look leaky and the dialogue on SiriusXM often is focused on Dmen.....and Lucic

 

[major major]

I dunno MM....check out the Goalie GAAs. Now I’m looking at stats where you’ve watched them more, but the GAAs look leaky and the dialogue on SiriusXM often is focused on Dmen.....and Lucic

They have 66 goals against, same as the Jackets with half the talent.

They don't play safe is death either. .. but I think they give up a lot of goals as a consequence of not moving the puck well. Nurse / Larsson / Russell, they can defend and win pucks but what good is it if their passes are a little off and they have to go right back to defending (excuse that Larsson just got uncharacteristically walked on Couture's goal, about 10 minutes ago.)

 

[blahblah]

Hitch to Edmonton smacks of desperation. His effectiveness has fallen with each successive stop.

We are funny.....