Speculation: Armchair GM Thread - 2019/20 Season

[Lunatik]

I have had this thought stuck in my mind for a while.

From the Kadri situation, we know that the management is looking fir a top 6 center, do you guys think that sometime during the season, the team will go for a top 6 center?

No. Without Valimaki we don't have the assets on the backend to make such a move any more and for us to make such a move, with futures we'd need to accrue a large amount of cap space, which we cannot do without shedding cap early in the season.

 

[Mobiandi]

I have had this thought stuck in my mind for a while.

From the Kadri situation, we know that the management is looking fir a top 6 center, do you guys think that sometime during the season, the team will go for a top 6 center?

I think Treliving desperately wants another center. But things are just too tight right now with the cap. I think if Stone and Yelesin look like comfortable NHLers this season, we might move Brodie/Hamonic and Jankowski/pick at the deadline

 

[Kranix]

Need a RW, not a C. They have a C. It's Sam Bennett yo

 

[Calculon]

I'm sure they'll keep an eye out in case something happens. If there's something that make sense, maybe they go for it but it's not likely given how hard it is to make substantial changes during the season.

So in the meantime, they'll try in house options in Bennett and/or Lindholm. And if those work out, they may not have to do anything at all. Otherwise, they'll try again in the summer if it's still a weak point.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Bennett is the C we need and deserve.

 

[Khrox]

I wouldn't be upset at another C/RW type player. If we can get a right-shot C to play RW with one of either Bennet or Backlund to do for that line what Lindholm does for Monahan (they each take strong-side faceoffs) I would be thrilled. It would fill a need (a RW), and is insurance (it's never a bad thing to have someone else who can play C and take faceoffs).

 

[viper0220]

I wouldn't be upset at another C/RW type player. If we can get a right-shot C to play RW with one of either Bennet or Backlund to do for that line what Lindholm does for Monahan (they each take strong-side faceoffs) I would be thrilled. It would fill a need (a RW), and is insurance (it's never a bad thing to have someone else who can play C and take faceoffs).

I totally agree with this, someone who can play both C and RW, would be very nice. I don't know why my mind always comes to Jack Roslovic.

 

[SKRusty]

I totally agree with this, someone who can play both C and RW, would be very nice. I don't know why my mind always comes to Jack Roslovic.

I think there are a couple trades here for Calgary and Winnipeg that could help both teams.

Gaudreau & Brodie for Laine & Roslovic- While Winnipeg get s the 2 best players today Calgary gets a sniper and an emerging C/RW. Winnipeg upgrades on LW and RD. Where Winnipeg suffers a little Brodie is a UFA at the end of the season. With Byfuglien's future in question this allows Winnipeg to re-sign Brodie.

Calgary gains from this trade by upgrading significantly on RW. Calgary also wins because Roslovic and Laine are both a move to slightly younger players. Laine also brings the sniper Calgary has been looking for.

Brodie, Jankowski & Czarnik for Ehlers &Roslovic- Close trade to call on who is the better player Ehlers or Brodie but the move again bolsters the RW for Calgary while giving Winnipeg a #1RD Center Ice depth and a spare part in Czarnik that can be replaced in the press box by Rinaldo.

Personally I like the Gaudreau trade better for Calgary.

 

[Baxterman]

I think the Gaudreau deal is bad without Brodie included I don’t see how it makes us better especially with Brodie included.

Laine is not a great fit for our team without Gaudreau to play with and Roslovic is far from a sure top 6 offensive player.

I would make the second deal in a heartbeat but can’t see Winnipeg doing that unless they get real desperate for defenseman but even adding Brodie doesn’t seem like it will change much for them at this point.

 

[viper0220]

I think there are a couple trades here for Calgary and Winnipeg that could help both teams.

Gaudreau & Brodie for Laine & Roslovic- While Winnipeg get s the 2 best players today Calgary gets a sniper and an emerging C/RW. Winnipeg upgrades on LW and RD. Where Winnipeg suffers a little Brodie is a UFA at the end of the season. With Byfuglien's future in question this allows Winnipeg to re-sign Brodie.

Calgary gains from this trade by upgrading significantly on RW. Calgary also wins because Roslovic and Laine are both a move to slightly younger players. Laine also brings the sniper Calgary has been looking for.

Brodie, Jankowski & Czarnik for Ehlers &Roslovic- Close trade to call on who is the better player Ehlers or Brodie but the move again bolsters the RW for Calgary while giving Winnipeg a #1RD Center Ice depth and a spare part in Czarnik that can be replaced in the press box by Rinaldo.

Personally I like the Gaudreau trade better for Calgary.

I personally like both of them but I don't think Winnipeg does them because they probably want more from our side. There is a trade to be made with Winnipeg.

As the season goes on a team with high expectations, that is not doing too good, with a GM on the hot seat might want to shake things up and we need to be in the middle of it.

If we can get a top 6 forward, that will go a long way. If it involves trading Brodie and the 1st round, if it makes sense, than we need to pull off the trade. Anderson takes Brodie's spot and we get a Defensemen in the trade (a lesser Defense men of course.)

 

[Lunatik]

Gaudreau & Brodie for Laine & Roslovic is nothing short of a f***ing abortion. That is such a ridiculously stupid proposal I don't even have words to describe how stupid it is.

 

[DCDM]

I think there are a couple trades here for Calgary and Winnipeg that could help both teams.

Gaudreau & Brodie for Laine & Roslovic- While Winnipeg get s the 2 best players today Calgary gets a sniper and an emerging C/RW. Winnipeg upgrades on LW and RD. Where Winnipeg suffers a little Brodie is a UFA at the end of the season. With Byfuglien's future in question this allows Winnipeg to re-sign Brodie.

Calgary gains from this trade by upgrading significantly on RW. Calgary also wins because Roslovic and Laine are both a move to slightly younger players. Laine also brings the sniper Calgary has been looking for.

This is terrible. Roslovic is a nice piece but not worth downgrading from Gaudreau to Laine (yes, that is a downgrade) AND throwing in Brodie. Just an awful proposal, I'm sorry. Try again.

Brodie, Jankowski & Czarnik for Ehlers &Roslovic- Close trade to call on who is the better player Ehlers or Brodie but the move again bolsters the RW for Calgary while giving Winnipeg a #1RD Center Ice depth and a spare part in Czarnik that can be replaced in the press box by Rinaldo.

Infinitely better and one that the Flames would jump at if given the opportunity but no way does Winnipeg give up on Ehlers, especially with the start he's had. Perhaps closer to the deadline something like this could come to fruition, but not today.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Brodie for Roslovic would have some merit on its own. Trading Gaudreau for Laine would be instant regret.

 

[viper0220]

This is terrible. Roslovic is a nice piece but not worth downgrading from Gaudreau to Laine (yes, that is a downgrade) AND throwing in Brodie. Just an awful proposal, I'm sorry. Try again.



Infinitely better and one that the Flames would jump at if given the opportunity but no way does Winnipeg give up on Ehlers, especially with the start he's had. Perhaps closer to the deadline something like this could come to fruition, but not today.

Why would the Elhers trade come to fruition around the deadline when Elhers has a shit ton of points?

I think around the deadline, we see one of Brodie or Hamonic gone, for what? I don't know.

 

[viper0220]

I think there are a couple trades here for Calgary and Winnipeg that could help both teams.

Gaudreau & Brodie for Laine & Roslovic- While Winnipeg get s the 2 best players today Calgary gets a sniper and an emerging C/RW. Winnipeg upgrades on LW and RD. Where Winnipeg suffers a little Brodie is a UFA at the end of the season. With Byfuglien's future in question this allows Winnipeg to re-sign Brodie.

Calgary gains from this trade by upgrading significantly on RW. Calgary also wins because Roslovic and Laine are both a move to slightly younger players. Laine also brings the sniper Calgary has been looking for.

Brodie, Jankowski & Czarnik for Ehlers &Roslovic- Close trade to call on who is the better player Ehlers or Brodie but the move again bolsters the RW for Calgary while giving Winnipeg a #1RD Center Ice depth and a spare part in Czarnik that can be replaced in the press box by Rinaldo.

Personally I like the Gaudreau trade better for Calgary.

What would the Jets wants for Roslovic.

 

[DCDM]

Why would the Elders trade come to fruition around the deadline when Elhers has a **** ton of points?

I think around the deadline, we see one of Brodie or Hamonic gone, for what? I don't know.

Forgot to clarify. If Winnipeg is out of contention and feels the need to shake things up (and get a headstart on fixing their defense before the summer), then potentially something like that could be a discussion. But I still agree with you that they're probably not keen to move Ehlers in any shape or form.

 

[Fig]

What would the Jets wants for Roslovic.

I think the discussion was generally something like Hamonic or Brodie for Roslovic+

 

[crackdown44]

Getting rid of one of Hamonic or Brodie for a player like roslovic makes us a worse team this season

Also known Gaudreau hater wants to trade Gaudreau for worse players. Shock

At least it’s not JVR or Parise

 

[Fig]

Getting rid of one of Hamonic or Brodie for a player like roslovic makes us a worse team this season

Also known Gaudreau hater wants to trade Gaudreau for worse players. Shock

At least it’s not JVR or Parise

Yeah. Which is why there never seemed to be a consensus idea of a trade with Winnipeg which seemed to make sense.

Hamonic/Brodie for Roslovic+ = Flames not happy. Want a proven RW.
Hamonic/Brodie ++ for Ehlers = Jets not happy. Want to keep Ehlers... and Laine/Connor are off limits.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I think a Roslovic trade only makes sense if you're sending Brodie+Jankowski for Roslovic + cost effective D.

 

[SKRusty]

Getting rid of one of Hamonic or Brodie for a player like roslovic makes us a worse team this season

Also known Gaudreau hater wants to trade Gaudreau for worse players. Shock

At least it’s not JVR or Parise

Is Laine really worse than Johnny? 50 goal guy vs a 100 point guy. Both are incredibly valuable. The only part of the trade where the Flames may lose this year is losing Brodie and getting Roslovic but Valimaki should start skating in about a month. So the question becomes do we trade TJ who we likely will lose at the end of the season for a solid up-and-coming NHL player?

Winnipeg has a surplus of RW's and if Winnipeg was 100% certain of Laine's future with the club they would have signed him to 6-7 years at $8-9M.

I am glad you are sold on Johnny. I am not, so quit being intolerant of other opinions. For the record, again, I don't hate Johnny but rather value him significantly less than many on this board. As I have said Chucky has more value in my mind. If it comes to making a decision of which one Calgary can't afford to lose it is Chucky.

Yeah. Which is why there never seemed to be a consensus idea of a trade with Winnipeg which seemed to make sense.

Hamonic/Brodie ++ for Ehlers = Jets not happy. Want to keep Ehlers... and Laine/Connor are off limits.

To get a quality RD in trade Winnipeg will have to give up real assets that are attractive for other teams. As soon as Byfuglien's situation is figured out Winnipeg will know if they need a #1 RD or a #2. Calgary has both options but it will not come cheap for Winnipeg.

Any #1RD will cost Winnipeg 1 of Liane or Ehlers because their contracts are palatable. Wheeler and Connor have price tags most teams won't want to absorb.

 

[Kahvi]

LINEUP NOTES - 09.10.19

Anderson with Gio, Mangiapane on the 2nd line, Kylington out and Stone in 3rd pair with Brodie. Most Flames hocket I've seen this (pre)season was 2,5 period of the last game, but I really liked Anderson

 

[InfinityIggy]

Is Laine really worse than Johnny? 50 goal guy vs a 100 point guy.

Which season was it Laine scored 50? Lets see if he ever gets 40 again in a season. Even that is far from a sure thing given his last season.

 

[Iggys Dome]

Honestly if we park Jankowski in the press box I'm cool with it. Such a useless player outside of the PK and even then he's so lukewarm. Move him for a pick or someone else, Toronto are so lucky they got Kerfoot and Barrie instead of him and Brodie. Would've been a steal and a half for us.

 

[Volica]

Honestly if we park Jankowski in the press box I'm cool with it. Such a useless player outside of the PK and even then he's so lukewarm. Move him for a pick or someone else, Toronto are so lucky they got Kerfoot and Barrie instead of him and Brodie. Would've been a steal and a half for us.

That would have been a fire-able offence besides handing out massive contracts like candy.
The Barrie/Kadri swap is a good one for both teams. Calgary would have been laughing all the way to the bank had Kadri not nixed the deal.

I still think Calgary's in the market for some extra forward bodies. Gotta think they like their chances at putting together a nice little run... but will need some more help, especially on the top 6.