Confirmed Signing with Link: [ARI] Clayton Keller re-signs with Coyotes (8 Years, $7.15M AAV)

[The Moose is Loose]

I much rather have Keller at 7.15 by 8 years over Nylander at 7 by 6 years.

Very easy choice

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Was someone not a negative player on that team?

they almost made the playoffs

also havent looked through the whole roster deeply but brad richardson aint bad and nick schmaltz is the definition of average for example

 

[TorontoTrades]

I feel like I am out of touch with the league because I keep seeing these contract numbers and feeling like they are all too high.

Players are making serious bank these days.

Agreed but at the same time it's absolutely peanuts to the other sports.

24 players making 25+ mill in the NBA
44 players making 15+ mill in the NFL
34 players making 20+ million in the MLB



NHL is still criminally underrated.

 

[TheLegend]

Agreed but at the same time it's absolutely peanuts to the other sports.

24 players making 25+ mill in the NBA
44 players making 15+ mill in the NFL
34 players making 20+ million in the MLB



NHL is still criminally underrated.

All one has to do is look at the TV contracts.

The NBA contract is $24 billion vs the NHL’s ~$2 billion. NBA also has half the roster size. More money to spread around to fewer players.

The NFL has more money than most third world countries so it’s not even worth comparing.

Haven’t looked into MLB but the story is probably a lot similar.

 

[tony d]

I like him as a player but 7.15 million per seems a bit much for him IMO.

 

[Schemp]

And how many points does he have to get this year for it to be considered an underpayment? Cause he should be right around 75 points.

He has 1 more year on his ELC, so you must mean the following season.

 

[Bob Clarke Fan Club]

Scrap the cap, It's absolutely ridiculous. If teams can't survive, they shouldn't.

 

[Holymakinaw]

I much rather have Keller at 7.15 by 8 years over Nylander at 7 by 6 years.

Very easy choice

Nah. Nylander is better, and costs less.

And before some of you start in with the "But but but......Keller had 65 points one year so he's better!!!"........In both their first two full seasons in the league, Willie scored 42 goals and 122 points, and Keller scored 37 goals and 112 points.

Both good, but Nylander is the better deal here.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Nah. Nylander is better, and costs less.

And before some of you start in with the "But but but......Keller had 65 points one year so he's better!!!"........In both their first two full seasons in the league, Willie scored 42 goals and 122 points, and Keller scored 37 goals and 112 points.

Both good, but Nylander is the better deal here.

Interesting take. You think if Keller was playing with Matthews and if Nylander was playing with Stepan that Nylander would be better? This is one of the worst observations in this thread. Keller is better, he already is a proven 65 point player and rookie with far less to work with. Nylander plays with Matthews, 61 points tops and is coming off a 27 pt season. Not sure what you are basing your observations on?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Nah. Nylander is better, and costs less.

And before some of you start in with the "But but but......Keller had 65 points one year so he's better!!!"........In both their first two full seasons in the league, Willie scored 42 goals and 122 points, and Keller scored 37 goals and 112 points.

Both good, but Nylander is the better deal here.

Well yes Keller had the better season, and he has been on much worse teams which should definitely be accounted for. Coyotes are more devoid of offensive talent than any other team in the league, Keller is THE guy there, Nylander is not even a top 3 offensive threat for the leafs, not to mention quality of line mates.

And there is no arguing that Nylander has the better contract.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Interesting take. You think if Keller was playing with Matthews and if Nylander was playing with Stepan that Nylander would be better? This is one of the worst observations in this thread. Keller is better, he already is a proven 65 point player and rookie with far less to work with. Nylander plays with Matthews, 61 points tops and is coming off a 27 pt season. Not sure what you are basing your observations on?

Oh thanks for admitting that Matthews is great & carries guys. Let's all remember when you said this, alright? It'll be good for later.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Oh thanks for admitting that Matthews is great & carries guys. Let's all remember when you said this, alright? It'll be good for later.

Well playing with Matthews would pad a players stats easier than playing with Stepan. Even you would recognize this. Keller has had far less to work with, and he still out produced Nylander 65 to 61 points in their best season. Not hard to surmise if Keller and Nylander reversed teams who would be way better stats wise.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Well playing with Matthews would pad a players stats easier than playing with Stepan. Even you would recognize this. Keller has less to work with, and he still out produced Nylander 65 to 61 points in their best season. Not hard to surmise if Keller and Nylander reversed teams who would be way better stats wise.

No way of know that at all, actually. Woulda, coulda, shoulda means nothing. They're both good players. But Nylander is cheaper, and has better stats.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

No way of know that at all, actually. Woulda, coulda, shoulda means nothing. They're both good players. But Nylander is cheaper, and has better stats.

Nice backtrack. You said Nylander was a better player. Now better stats. Well that is even up for debate. Not as a rookie. Keller > Nylander 65-61, and not last year. 47 to 27 points. And Nylander plays on a team that is far better offensively than Keller does. Nylander is better? Not sure if you are trying to get a laugh here.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Nice backtrack. You said Nylander was a better player. Now better stats. Well that is even up for debate. Not as a rookie. Keller > Nylander 65-61, and not last year. 47 to 27 points. And Nylander plays on a team that is far better offensively than Keller does. Nylander is better? Not sure if you are trying to get a laugh here.

First two years in the league......

Nylander 2 x 61 point seasons
Keller 1 x 65 pt., 1 x 47 pt. season.

Yes, Nylander is the better player. And he has better stats.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

What don’t you understand?

I assume your post implies he can't or is very unlikely to reach value of 7.1m AAV. If that's the case, well, go ahead and write off a 21 year old that had a 65 point rookie season.

 

[mouser]

First two years in the league......

Nylander 2 x 61 point seasons
Keller 1 x 65 pt., 1 x 47 pt. season.

Yes, Nylander is the better player. And he has better stats.

Difficult to make that comparison when one player is two years younger then the other. Another way of looking at it, career points by post-draft year

D1: Keller 2, Nylander 0
D2: Keller 67, Nylander 13
D3: Keller 114, Nylander 74
D4: Keller ??, Nylander 135
D5: Keller ??, Nylander 162

 

[shortfuze]

He has 1 more year on his ELC, so you must mean the following season.

YEs. You are correct.

 

[Cor]

I assume your post implies he can't or is very unlikely to reach value of 7.1m AAV. If that's the case, well, go ahead and write off a 21 year old that had a 65 point rookie season.

That’s a lot to take from a post simply stating he had 47 points last season.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Thas a lot of tacos

 

[Vinny]

Difficult to make that comparison when one player is two years younger then the other. Another way of looking at it, career points by post-draft year

D1: Keller 2, Nylander 0
D2: Keller 67, Nylander 13
D3: Keller 114, Nylander 74
D4: Keller ??, Nylander 135
D5: Keller ??, Nylander 162

It is simple, who is Nylander playing with and on what line and what team, Keller is doing it....

Keller is by far the better player.

 

[Metroid]

I much rather have Keller at 7.15 by 8 years over Nylander at 7 by 6 years.

Very easy choice

This is why you're not a GM

 

[Panthaz89]

You cant measure a player just on points anyway Coyotes didnt really have anyone up there in points on their entire team last season once he has good enough players around him the numbers should go up accordingly.

 

[innitfam]

No way of know that at all, actually. Woulda, coulda, shoulda means nothing. They're both good players. But Nylander is cheaper, and has better stats.

That extra 190k

Keller is locked up 3 years longer. Already produced more. Worked with far less on the Coyotes than Nylander did with the Leafs.

Keller is better.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

This is why you're not a GM

What a bs statement. What GMs have come out and said "I prefer Nylander to Keller"