ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
I believe Bill Watters said they have tuned Babs out after the game last night. I doubt it but losing to a Yotes team that was missing it's #1 goalie and 4 or 5 forwards is ffod for thought.
I believe Bill Watters said they have tuned Babs out after the game last night. I doubt it but losing to a Yotes team that was missing it's #1 goalie and 4 or 5 forwards is ffod for thought.
Doubt it. Dubas made a weak team, he even traded one of the sturdy possession player to keep Ennis who does not play at all. He kept a terrible backup in Sparks. The icing and cherry all in one was the fail negotiations with Nylander. Obviously it rattled the room.
Poor management. Dubas will be fired before Babs
It's just lip service.he would be fired so he can keep his word to Nylander.
Not ready to write off either until the D is addressed. Now if I was Shanny and Dubbie refused to trade Willie this summer, he would be fired so he can keep his word to Nylander.
Then Dubas isn't a man of his word. He has no integrity after that. It's over. He is going into the Dave Nonis bin. The first thing I would do if f were Dubas is shake up the team. Trade Jake Brown or AJ to start. Waive Sparks. Make them shave again. Enforce Lou policies, heck even fire DJ Smith.
He needs to get this team under control.
I'm glad Leivo got his chance elsewhere, no way he should have been traded though. He was playing great this year.Doubt it. Dubas made a weak team, he even traded one of the sturdy possession player to keep Ennis who does not play at all. He kept a terrible backup in Sparks. The icing and cherry all in one was the fail negotiations with Nylander. Obviously it rattled the room.
Poor management. Dubas will be fired before Babs
you keep saying this, you better not be getting my hopes up for nothing.It's just lip service.
Dubas put Willy on a trade bait contract.
I'm glad Leivo got his chance elsewhere, no way he should have been traded though. He was playing great this year.
you keep saying this, you better not be getting my hopes up for nothing.
Doubt it. Dubas made a weak team, he even traded one of the sturdy possession player to keep Ennis who does not play at all. He kept a terrible backup in Sparks. The icing and cherry all in one was the fail negotiations with Nylander. Obviously it rattled the room.
Poor management. Dubas will be fired before Babs
You took the words right out of my mouth.***If*** your core players are engineering a mutiny when they're still on their ELC's or one month into their new contract, I think your problem is less getting rid of your coach but may as well go back to square one of the rebuild because that's not a group of guys you're likely to get very far with without some serious maturation.
On a hot summer nightYou took the words right out of my mouth.
Bridge deal then.Matthews looks completely disengaged, and I don't think it's a long shot to say he's unhappy with Babcock.
On a cold winter night too.On a hot summer night
Would you offer Willy for Parayko?
Babcock dislikes Matthews and vice versa. Babcock could never play Auston Matthews the 87th rank for ice time amongst Forwards if he had his star players back and liked him. This is a massive problem.
Playing his 4th line post whistle in the defensive zone vs #1 lines on other teams will have everybody on the squad wondering what the bleep he is doing. Its like handing the opposing team an opportunity to roast u and he keeps doing it. Whats the message? "im the boss" ? There is no logic to do this if u want to win games.
Blatant refusal to pair Marner/Matthews. Matthews has had 7 wingers this year for extended times, none have been Marner. Matthews instead has Nylander demoted off his line and a bunch of 3rd liners rotating on and off his line who cant be the puck possession/playmaker Matthews needs.
Why stay loyal to Marincin? Again is this a "im the boss" move? Marincin with a penalty on his first shift tonight and 2 brutal turnovers in his own end leading to chances in the first period alone. Basically the same thing he always does but is always given a shot to redeem himself. Imagine suiting Marincin up again next game? Probably has the teams blood boiling.
Babcock proved last year flexing his power rules over winning hockey games. Look at Komarov's ice time in January, the PP time in close games. Using Komarov as his message to " listen to me" because Komarov "works hard and u cant skill your way around the ice". Look at Matthews ice time in the playoffs.
The OP raised a legit question. Most people here are followers and I do believe this will come out in the media at some point, the major dislike for Babcock's arrogance and constant need for reminding everyone who the boss is.
I believe Bill Watters said they have tuned Babs out after the game last night. I doubt it but losing to a Yotes team that was missing it's #1 goalie and 4 or 5 forwards is ffod for thought.
I'm guessing we'll start to hear about problems in the locker room.
Remember... when Nylander held out for two months to get a higher cap percentage than he deserves, that extra money does not come out of mlse's pockets. We were going to spend to the cap ceiling regardless.
No, that extra money came out of his teammates pockets. Marners, Matthews, Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Sparks. It comes from THEIR pockets. No matter how you slice it. No matter the amount of spin used to try and think of it differently... the FACT is that Nylanders overpayment money comes out of his teammates pockets.
Then they see him come back out of shape and he sometimes doesn't even seem to be trying out there.
Matthews looks completely disengaged, and I don't think it's a long shot to say he's unhappy with Babcock.
Book it. We'll start hearing about it soon.
Locker room problems.
Babcock dislikes Matthews and vice versa. Babcock could never play Auston Matthews the 87th rank for ice time amongst Forwards if he had his star players back and liked him. This is a massive problem.
Playing his 4th line post whistle in the defensive zone vs #1 lines on other teams will have everybody on the squad wondering what the bleep he is doing. Its like handing the opposing team an opportunity to roast u and he keeps doing it. Whats the message? "im the boss" ? There is no logic to do this if u want to win games.
Blatant refusal to pair Marner/Matthews. Matthews has had 7 wingers this year for extended times, none have been Marner. Matthews instead has Nylander demoted off his line and a bunch of 3rd liners rotating on and off his line who cant be the puck possession/playmaker Matthews needs.
Why stay loyal to Marincin? Again is this a "im the boss" move? Marincin with a penalty on his first shift tonight and 2 brutal turnovers in his own end leading to chances in the first period alone. Basically the same thing he always does but is always given a shot to redeem himself. Imagine suiting Marincin up again next game? Probably has the teams blood boiling.
Babcock proved last year flexing his power rules over winning hockey games. Look at Komarov's ice time in January, the PP time in close games. Using Komarov as his message to " listen to me" because Komarov "works hard and u cant skill your way around the ice". Look at Matthews ice time in the playoffs.
The OP raised a legit question. Most people here are followers and I do believe this will come out in the media at some point, the major dislike for Babcock's arrogance and constant need for reminding everyone who the boss is.