GoAwayDanCleary
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- Aug 6, 2012
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"If we'd just do this one little thing, we'd be at the top of the standings" said every team ever.
Difference is not many of those teams are as good as this one...
"If we'd just do this one little thing, we'd be at the top of the standings" said every team ever.
"If we'd just do this one little thing, we'd be at the top of the standings" said every team ever.
Difference is not many of those teams are as good as this one...
That's this board for you. Tatar and Nyquist are expected to score every game in order to be considered good players. Very few people understand that 30-goal scorers are not going to score goals in all 82 games.
I'd imagine a larger sample of performance might be under evaluation than simple goalscoring in a general evaluation of a player's overall efficiency, but setting those aside for the moment...
To be fair, doesn't calling someone a "30 goal scorer" sort of implicitly require them to have actually scored 30 goals?
Further still, doesn't that term imply not only the initial accomplishment, but an expectation of frequent repetition?
Neither Tatar nor Nyquist have ever done it, neither are on a pace to do so this year, and neither are even in the top 25 in goals at their position, in the event that a general league-wide malaise in scoring were to be sited as a cause for the above lacks.
None of those events mean they suck, obviously, but they do sort of suggest that perhaps the fans perceptions of their status as forwards in the league could withstand some meager adjustments.
While that did make make me laugh at least, if he was even close to as incompetent as you thought he was we wouldn't have the record we do right now.
Repeatedly crumbling under pressure - even if we pull the OT win out - is not exactly the hallmark of a team who has it together. Let's just remember that our goal differential is a resounding zero.
I must be the only one who think Richards has been pretty good lately.
One could argue it takes a good team to be tied or winning the game after 60 minutes of play in 70% of games.
In Fact we have finished 22 games tied or winning after 60 minutes. Only 3 teams (Montreal, NYR, NYI) have accomplished this more. I'd say that IS a hallmark of a pretty good team.
"27-29 goal scorers" just doesn't have the same ring to it. That's what they've done, that's what they're on pace to do.I'd imagine a larger sample of performance might be under evaluation than simple goalscoring in a general evaluation of a player's overall efficiency, but setting those aside for the moment...
To be fair, doesn't calling someone a "30 goal scorer" sort of implicitly require them to have actually scored 30 goals?
Further still, doesn't that term imply not only the initial accomplishment, but an expectation of frequent repetition?
Neither Tatar nor Nyquist have ever done it, neither are on a pace to do so this year, and neither are even in the top 25 in goals at their position, in the event that a general league-wide malaise in scoring were to be sited as a cause for the above lacks.
None of those events mean they suck, obviously, but they do sort of suggest that perhaps the fans perceptions of their status as forwards in the league could withstand some meager adjustments.
Our goaltending has been mediocre lately. Mrazeks has been under .900 in 3 of his last 6 starts, Howard under .900 in 3 of his last 7.I would agree but goaltending has been great and that skews how good they actually are.
While it was intended to make you laugh I am not sure your assessment is entirely accurate. Goaltending has hidden a ton of weakness in the system and strategy of this team. They rank among the bottom 10 in most statistical categories and the PP is absolutely dreadful which is a hallmark of Blashill's tenure as an NHL assistant. Given this is the best roster they have had since Lidstrom retired these things do not reflect well on Blashill's performance as head coach. In 31 games they have coughed up a 3rd period lead 11 times. Inexcusable.
since datsyuk returned, it's the opposite. top 10 in goal and shot differential.
and it's not goaltending either as it has been below average since datsyuk came back.
Our goaltending has been mediocre lately. Mrazeks has been under .900 in 3 of his last 6 starts, Howard under .900 in 3 of his last 7.
You are aware goaltenders are a part of the team and are paid a salary, right?
Especially hilarious since there has been complaining among Wings fans for years and years about how "we don't have a goaltender that can steal games". Now that we do, it's a bad thing. Winning when we don't outplay the other team is supposedly not a deserved win since the goalie was so important.It's always pretty humorous that if a forward like Ovechkin goes wild and scores a hat trick, well then the consensus becomes that team was better. But if Carey Price shuts down scoring, his team doesn't deserve the win.
Team loses in regulation for the first time in 13 (thirteen) games, and we suddenly have a 7 page PGT so everyone can ***** and moan about how terrible the team is.
Ahhh, HFBoards
So, you're just allowed to discuss - and necessarily criticize - it, if you aren't coming into the game with a 13 games pts streak? Doesn't it bother you
guys to blow just another 3rd period lead at home? Standing here, being critical of some aspects doesn't mean that one isn't grateful for the points before.
It's more of a criticism on making less out of our opportunities than we're capable of.
That's a ridiculous comparison. Roy and Brodeur weren't carrying their teams. Both played on extremely deep teams for the bulk of their careers. Of course you need good goaltending but it isn't as if the Devils were getting out shot 20-40 every night and winning because of Brodeur. That's absurd. Same goes for the Avs.It's always pretty humorous that if a forward like Ovechkin goes wild and scores a hat trick, well then the consensus becomes that team was better. But if Carey Price shuts down scoring, his team doesn't deserve the win.
Preventing goals and scoring goals are both equally important. Goaltending has traditionally been a position powerhouse teams build around during my lifetime and it's easy to find examples like Roy, Brodeur, and Belfour. During that era when the Avalanche, Devils, Stars, and Wings gobbled up all the points and playoff wins, the Wings were the marked exception to the rule regarding elite goaltending. Of course, that didn't stop Detroit from desperately playing musical chairs trying to upgrade the position with mixed results (CuJo, Hasek).
I think if you want to create an NHL team that is seriously going to compete for more than 5 years, you need to shore up elite goaltending you can count on every season. To somehow call this a fault of a roster, that they lean on elite goaltending, is ignoring years of hockey history where Hall of Fame goalies like Roy and Brodeur made their mark by keeping teams afloat in games their roster had no business winning.
And in a league here parity is on the rise, having a guy like that is going to become even more important.