Player Discussion: Andrei Vasilevskiy

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[DeeVeeUss]

Vezina-Levskiy!!

 

[The Gongshow]

Vasi Vezna

 

[LightningStrikes]

Dude’s like teflon, pucks won’t stick to him.

 

[These Are The Days]

He needs to get his shit together in a hurry. Get those bad bounces out of your system now doing the round-robin. If Vasy is gonna keep letting in these terrible goals while we have to manage a special teams ratio of 4 or 5 PK's to every 2 PP's like we have been going all the back to CBJ then we're done like Patrick Marleau. We can let teams play their game all we want against us and I think we will be a little better prepared for it than last year. And the PK's to PP's ratio? Fine... I actually think we are getting used to it now. But that's gonna mean we're gonna have to wait for some time for our offense to break through and we CAN NOT have Vasy goofing it up the whole way.

I still haven't gotten over him waffling the first shot of the game literally a minute into game 7 of the ECF against the Caps. Ovechkin is just trying to get it on net like 20 feet out and Vasy lets it through....

 

[JFleegs]

Dude’s like teflon, pucks won’t stick to him.

I saw a tweet about the fact he’s using new pads which could be why he’s not feeling the puck. Could be the reason pucks are squeaking by. Needs to go back to old pads.

 

[JoVel]

I saw a tweet about the fact he’s using new pads which could be why he’s not feeling the puck. Could be the reason pucks are squeaking by. Needs to go back to old pads.

I mean it's not like he was great at rebounds before.

 

[DFC]

I know some people are gonna hate me for this, but...

What if we traded Vasy before his NTC kicks in? We could solve all of our RFA issues and still have enough left over to replace him with a solid, cheaper goalie.

 

[Master P]

I know some people are gonna hate me for this, but...

What if we traded Vasy before his NTC kicks in? We could solve all of our RFA issues and still have enough left over to replace him with a solid, cheaper goalie.

 

[Sky04]

I know some people are gonna hate me for this, but...

What if we traded Vasy before his NTC kicks in? We could solve all of our RFA issues and still have enough left over to replace him with a solid, cheaper goalie.

I'm of the belief that goalies are never worth top dollar, there's way too much variance in goaltending performance to take up a large cap hit.

However it's way too late to move him and figure out goaltending now, they've already committed to Vasi unless he monumentally bombs multiple playoff runs and seasons.

 

[ViD]

I know some people are gonna hate me for this, but...

What if we traded Vasy before his NTC kicks in? We could solve all of our RFA issues and still have enough left over to replace him with a solid, cheaper goalie.

Trade the guy nominated for Vezina 3 times in a row? Your window closed ?

 

[Sky04]

Trade the guy nominated for Vezina 3 times in a row? Your window closed ?

He's just pointing out an option, Tampa would be more than fine with a 6.5m goalie in net and 3m in capspace as well, it's not like losing Vasi makes them fall off the map.

 

[DFC]

Trade the guy nominated for Vezina 3 times in a row? Your window closed ?

I don't think our window would close without a Vezina caliber goalie. And it's not like we wouldn't get a huge return, while also keeping the rest of the team together. Meanwhile, I'm not sure how many teams have won cups with goalies eating this much cap.

This isn't even really about his recent performances. It's more about the cap going stagnant. That's a lot of money to pay a goalie if the cap isn't going up.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Trade the guy nominated for Vezina 3 times in a row? Your window closed ?

Well we did trade Ben Bishop who was a Vezina nominee in 2014, took us to the finals in 15 and was a nominee again in 16. That’s how Vasy became the starter while Bish got his big contract elsewhere. So it’s not unheard of. Everyone has a price. That said, I’m not really in favor of moving Vasy atm.

 

[Todd1a]

I know some people are gonna hate me for this, but...

What if we traded Vasy before his NTC kicks in? We could solve all of our RFA issues and still have enough left over to replace him with a solid, cheaper goalie.

trade probably the best goalie in the NHL ? Does anyone forgot how bad our goalie problems used to be before bishop and Vasy?

 

[LightningStrikes]

It would solve a lot of our cap problems in an instant and if he’s the reason we go down early again this season I wouldn’t be against it.

Only question is replacement...

 

[Letsgobolts21]

Lehner, Greiss, Matt Murray (RFA)--you are rolling the dice on spending $4-$5M for a Goalie who has been good in the past, but certainly has questions.

I don't think it's even being considered and I'm not in favor of it, but with the flat cap you probably have to map out what it looks like. I don't think there would be many teams interested--partly b/c of the flat cap and partly b/c these big goalie contracts don't seem to look great pretty quickly. Major difference though in ours with Vasy is we are paying him now during his prime years. He should still be in his prime years at the end of his contract. Price and Bob may not.

Of course if MTL beats Pitt the narrative will shift on Price to see he's still awesome and he's very good. But MTL's team is a pretty big reason they are winning.

 

[Hoek]

I wasn't that excited about that huge contract but now nobody will pick him up for that full tab I don't think with how the cap is. At least not in a deal that would do us any good (probably have to take salary back, defeating the purpose).

 

[Sky04]

There's also no adequate replacement, every UFA in the next 2 years is either old or mediocre. Holtby sorta fits the bill but he's already 31, if only JBB shaved even 1m off that contract per year it looks that much better. Gibson is Vasi's closest comparable in terms of age and talent and he only has a caphit of 6.4m, there is definitely not a 3m difference between the 2.

 

[Felonious Python]

There's also no adequate replacement, every UFA in the next 2 years is either old or mediocre. Holtby sorta fits the bill but he's already 31, if only JBB shaved even 1m off that contract per year it looks that much better. Gibson is Vasi's closest comparable in terms of age and talent and he only has a caphit of 6.4m, there is definitely not a 3m difference between the 2.

Gibson is seen as having sort of a crummy year. Anaheim wasn't very good, but he only had a .904 sv%. The lowest of his career.

 

[Sky04]

Gibson is seen as having sort of a crummy year. Anaheim wasn't very good, but he only had a .904 sv%. The lowest of his career.

And career wise he's on par with Vasi while playing on significantly inferior teams.

 

[DFC]

There's also no adequate replacement, every UFA in the next 2 years is either old or mediocre. Holtby sorta fits the bill but he's already 31, if only JBB shaved even 1m off that contract per year it looks that much better. Gibson is Vasi's closest comparable in terms of age and talent and he only has a caphit of 6.4m, there is definitely not a 3m difference between the 2.

Holtby's 31, but we'd basically be looking for someone to hold the fort during our window, and I think Holtby could backstop this team to a long post-season run for the next few years.

It's not like I think we're gonna go this way, but we're about to enter our biggest cap crunch yet, so we should probably be considering outside the box options.

So it's like, are we better with Vasilevskiy + Joseph, or Holtby + Cirelli. Because the decision could look similar to that.

 

[Sky04]

Holtby's 31, but we'd basically be looking for someone to hold the fort during our window, and I think Holtby could backstop this team to a long post-season run for the next few years.

It's not like I think we're gonna go this way, but we're about to enter our biggest cap crunch yet, so we should probably be considering outside the box options.

So it's like, are we better with Vasilevskiy + Joseph, or Holtby + Cirelli. Because the decision could look similar to that.

We also have no replacement in the pipes so going that route also leads to a major goal tending issues down the line, not sure if that's worth giving up a locked in decade with Vasi, I don't even think it's a realistic option given the time frame we'd have to move him. Cirelli is great but we'd be fine without him too.

 

[Stammertime91]

3GAA-ilevskiy

Or

Andrei Leakilevskiy

I'm torn.

 

[Sky04]

3GAA-ilevskiy

Or

Andrei Leakilevskiy

I'm torn.

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