Rumor: Andrei Markov wants to return to the NHL next season, preferably with the Canadiens

[junyab]

I'd be open to a PTO at most but at the end of the day is it worth delaying the development of a young guy or losing someone for 1 year of Markov who may or may not be able to play at this level. 2017 was a long time ago.

I wouldn't agree with sending Mete down, but to suggest playing in the A would delay someones (especially a 21yr old defenceman's) development is ludicrous.

 

[Rebels57]

Wouldn't surprise me if any of them, including Markov, could out score (specially on the PP) the sad lot of LD's we currently have...

Desjardins was all over the ice in the Flyers-Penguins alumni game back in 2017

 

[sandysan]

How about neither.

Markov for 10 games, notches his 1000th and end of story would be the best outcome.

I like markov but I completely disagree, we should not be signing ANYONE as a PR move.

Kick the tires with a PTO. if you think he can make it the full season, even as a time limited PP specialist, then sign him to an elcheepo one year deal. If you think he can only make it 11 games, shake his hand and thank him ( better late then never) for all he did for the club, and then go your separate ways.

he either has gas in the tank or he's running on fumes. that is all that should matter.

 

[sandysan]

I just hope the Habs don't start the season with 1 PP goal in the 1st 10 games and the team Markov signs with is top 5 on the PP with him QBing the PP.

one PP goal in the first 10 games ? Always the optimist I guess.

 

[sandysan]

Time to move forward. Markov is too slow and demonstrated his lack of loyalty. Berg made the right hit call call

yeah that alzner money was cash well spent.

 

[sandysan]

Markov made his bed he had an offer of 1 year but wanted more end of story now the Habs as moved on.

he wanted two, the habs said no. he said he would take one, the habs said " too late". I am not sure how that is making your bed.

its not like the money we didnt use to resign him to a cheap one year deal was well spent when it ended up in Karl Alzner's pockets.

 

[CDN24]

I wouldn't agree with sending Mete down, but to suggest playing in the A would delay someones (especially a 21yr old defenceman's) development is ludicrous.

That's not what I am saying, I am saying delay his development at NHL level. If he is ready to play at NHL at it is best for him to be in NHL, then he should be in the NHL not in the A because we need a spot for Markov and and don't want to risk Rielly/Kulak on waivers.

Ludicrous would be giving Markov a contract (as opposed to a PTO), with no clue if he can still play at this level.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

yeah that alzner money was cash well spent.

Well sandycan’t , the conversation is not about Markov 2017 season (and 2 years for $12mm) it is about today. Alzner has no bearing on a Markov signing. Keep up please!

 

[Habby4Life]

Well sandycan’t , the conversation is not about Markov 2017 season (and 2 years for $12mm) it is about today. Alzner has no bearing on a Markov signing. Keep up please!

Exactly, it’s about 40 year old 2019 Markov.

No way they should give him a contract, maybe a PTO but even that would be a distraction. Time to move on.

 

[landfill]

is there room for him in Pittsburgh? this seems like the type of guy they have signed over the years

 

[sandysan]

Well sandycan’t , the conversation is not about Markov 2017 season (and 2 years for $12mm) it is about today. Alzner has no bearing on a Markov signing. Keep up please!

Yeah it's about the bottom Sixers we routinely sign. And if with the kids playing we struggle, you think he stays with youth?

Our GM has a great track record of signing bottom six players who ultimately wash out of the league. A great track record.

 

[robsenz]

I feel like a PTO is even too much at this point. Seems a bit delusional.

 

[ole ole]

Yeah it's about the bottom Sixers we routinely sign. And if with the kids playing we struggle, you think he stays with youth?

Our GM has a great track record of signing bottom six players who ultimately wash out of the league. A great track record.

Maybe bottom six players is all we can attract?
He's made trades that makes his track record pretty dam good.

 

[ole ole]

he wanted two, the habs said no. he said he would take one, the habs said " too late". I am not sure how that is making your bed.

its not like the money we didnt use to resign him to a cheap one year deal was well spent when it ended up in Karl Alzner's pockets.

Not quite true.

 

[sandysan]

Not quite true.

what's not true ? He was asking for a two year deal, then said he would accept a one year deal. Then MB said that we were not EVEN interested in a one year deal so he signed with the KHL and then we signed lolzner for way more money and term ( allegedly to make the defensive corps better than the year before).

we also signed, or had under contract lots of 8-10 D that ultimately were waived and cleared ( schlemko, ouellet, lolzner and others that drinking has stripped from my mind, thankfully).

Whether you think Markov's loyalty to the club was deserved is up for debate, but as soon as it was clear that out fine GM was handing him his hat, he went to the KHL.

 

[Habby4Life]

what's not true ? He was asking for a two year deal, then said he would accept a one year deal. Then MB said that we were not EVEN interested in a one year deal so he signed with the KHL and then we signed lolzner for way more money and term ( allegedly to make the defensive corps better than the year before).

we also signed, or had under contract lots of 8-10 D that ultimately were waived and cleared ( schlemko, ouellet, lolzner and others that drinking has stripped from my mind, thankfully).

Whether you think Markov's loyalty to the club was deserved is up for debate, but as soon as it was clear that out fine GM was handing him his hat, he went to the KHL.

Nobody knows exactly how the negotiations went. We don’t know what $ was asked/offered and how the term fell apart. It’s all speculation.

He went to the K, the team moved on then and now. Hopefully, we won’t be discussing 2017 Markov in 2027.

The team politely declined Markov’s wish to return, there is nothing more they owe him.

Maybe he’ll latch on somewhere else and get his 1000 games.

 

[sandysan]

Nobody knows exactly how the negotiations went. We don’t know what $ was asked/offered and how the term fell apart. It’s all speculation.

He went to the K, the team moved on then and now. Hopefully, we won’t be discussing 2017 Markov in 2027.

The team politely declined Markov’s wish to return, there is nothing more they owe him.

Maybe he’ll latch on somewhere else and get his 1000 games.

Except we do know, as Markov that he WOULD accept a one year deal before we handed him his hat.

And even if this were not true ( it's not) saying "we don't know what happened" is fundamentally different than saying " that's not how it happened".

History nor the truth are on your side.

 

[Arhidia]

hurricanes should sign him

 

[NORiculous]

Except we do know, as Markov that he WOULD accept a one year deal before we handed him his hat.

And even if this were not true ( it's not) saying "we don't know what happened" is fundamentally different than saying " that's not how it happened".

History nor the truth are on your side.

Report: Andrei Markov felt disrespected by Canadiens' Bergevin - Sportsnet.ca
We know Markov should have hired a professional agent...
We know Markov had his feelings hurt...

“But it wasn’t a question of money, it was a question of the way it was presented to me.[...]" -Markov

 

[Edgy]

Maybe bottom six players is all we can attract?
He's made trades that makes his track record pretty dam good.

Huh? what trade track record is that? apart from lucking out on Domi his specialty was getting 5th round picks in meaningless trades.
His trade highlights are below and none of them make his track record pretty damn good.
Paccioretty trade was weak return.
Subban for Weber was stupid
Sergachev for Drouin was Pejorative Slured
Galchenyuk for Domi he fell into it ass backwards
2 2nd round picks for Shaw was an overpayment

 

[Habby4Life]

Except we do know, as Markov that he WOULD accept a one year deal before we handed him his hat.

And even if this were not true ( it's not) saying "we don't know what happened" is fundamentally different than saying " that's not how it happened".

History nor the truth are on your side.

Markov wanted 2 years, MTL wanted one and that’s well known. In addition, the salary was also in discussion. So, we don’t know exactly went down & that is the truth. Markov felt disrespected, well negotiations can cause hurt feelings, too bad, get an agent.

Even if we pretend what you say is true regarding the one year, it wasn’t avaliable when he came off his 2 year demand. Boo freakin hoo, that’s business. It happens all the time, he overplayed his hand and MTL said no thanks.

He’s gone, maybe he can latch on somewhere else. MTL owes him nothing more than what they said this summer, a polite no thanks.

 

[Runner77]

I like markov but I completely disagree, we should not be signing ANYONE as a PR move.

Kick the tires with a PTO. if you think he can make it the full season, even as a time limited PP specialist, then sign him to an elcheepo one year deal. If you think he can only make it 11 games, shake his hand and thank him ( better late then never) for all he did for the club, and then go your separate ways.

he either has gas in the tank or he's running on fumes. that is all that should matter.

It was done with Plekanec, it’s no biggie.

However, it’s a non-issue with Bergevin clearly saying he wants no part of Markov. Moving on.

 

[Runner77]

hurricanes should sign him

Wouldn’t that’s be grand? I wish it would happen, with the Habs opening in Carolina on Oct. 3rd.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

Markov wanted 2 years, MTL wanted one and that’s well known. In addition, the salary was also in discussion. So, we don’t know exactly went down & that is the truth. Markov felt disrespected, well negotiations can cause hurt feelings, too bad, get an agent.

Even if we pretend what you say is true regarding the one year, it wasn’t avaliable when he came off his 2 year demand. Boo freakin hoo, that’s business. It happens all the time, he overplayed his hand and MTL said no thanks.

He’s gone, maybe he can latch on somewhere else. MTL owes him nothing more than what they said this summer, a polite no thanks.

Agreed. Markov can sell to the highest bidder . he will be lucky to get a PTO . Defiantly overplayed his hand.

 

[junyab]

Nobody knows exactly how the negotiations went. We don’t know what $ was asked/offered and how the term fell apart. It’s all speculation.

What are you going on about? Not much of this is speculation. You can pretty easily summarize how things went down by quotes from both parties.

Markov wanted 2 years. MB wanted 1 year. MB gave him a couple 1 year options, one of those was around Markov's AAV but was made up of performance bonuses. They didn't have "negotiations". Bergevin pretty much said take it or leave.