Anders Lee Gets Kronwalled

[WingsMJN2965]

The funniest thing is nobody comments on the play that was actually dirty, which was Bailey's slew foot on Kronwall minutes later.

 

[Thrasymachus]

clean hit IMHO (I am an islanders fan)

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Glad to see the majority sees the head contact as unavoidable, especially from Islanders fans themselves.

All around scrappy game, but the only truly malicious thing I can recall is Bailey’s slew foot

 

[The Red Line]

I love in Kronwall threads how easy it is to tell which posters are fans of teams with players that have gotten destroyed by Kronwall before. Even the ones like a decade ago, there's still so much salt lol.

 

[Rehabguy]

Islander fan here. That was a beautiful shoulder on shoulder hit. Wish there were more of these in the game and Kronwall does it about as good as anyone. Boychuk leveled a Rick Nash with a similar open ice hit just a couple of days ago. The hit just looks worse than it actually was because Lee got cut by his own visor or the follow through of Kronwall's arm. In fact, looking at the video again Kronwall was jarred by the hit almost as bad as Lee. Lee is a big boy. No malicious intent observed. Lee should know better than to skate up the middle of the ice with his head down. As for fighting, don't let anyone fool you- it's absolutely part of the game and can be a viable strategy to get a team going. Just because it leads to a penalty doesn't mean it's not part of the game. Tripping someone on a breakaway to prevent a goal is part of the game and could be a sound strategy, but it might cost you a penalty or penalty shot. So for those claiming that Kronwall refuses to fight because its not part of the game- that's just silly. He's just chickun! The thing I love about Boychuk, is he answers the bell everytime after he throws a big hit, usually to a detriment of his foolish opponent. Haven't seen him fight in a while, he's surprisingly very good at it. Looking at past videos, he just destroys his opponents just like he destroyed Abdelkader last night. Good stuff!

 

[Lexus]

All angles on the hit.



Anders Lee on the hit: “I had my head down, looking for the puck in my skates, and he hit me with a good shoulder check, that's hockey.”

 

[belair]

Amazing he's still able to do this. If his mobility regressed any further, he'd be a statue.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

The fact that it is deemed a legal hit is part of the problem. Contact to the head just can't be tollerated anymore under any circumstance.

Then ban checking. Because it's gonna happen.

 

[stampedingviking]

This is a tough one. I don’t think Kronwall intended to get him in the face but because Lee put himself in that position and had his head down that’s wear the contact was. Still but the rules it should have been a penalty.

Shoulder directly to face.

Kronwall is the best at those hits. And the majority of them are always clean.

Thing is, Lee didn't suddenly put his head down it was already there therefore, Kronwall should have made sure to hit shoulder or body or not made the hit at all. Penalty should have been called.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Thing is, Lee didn't suddenly put his head down it was already there therefore, Kronwall should have made sure to hit shoulder or body or not made the hit at all. Penalty should have been called.

You don't "call your shot" when you hit someone. You throw a body check by getting in the way of your opponent's center mass so that you perform the exact function that a body check is done for - to separate the player from the puck.

Sometimes the player has their chin tucked. That shouldn't make them off-limits for receiving a body check.

 

[RMimagery]

It was a clean hit.

It was also the play of the game for the Islanders. It woke up them up, they played like an angry bear for the rest of the game and came back from 0-2 to win a game that they likely wouldn't have otherwise.

 

[helax]

Chicken Swede

 

[newfy]

Big, clean hit. Kronwall still has it. This one might be in his top 5 actually, Lee is huge and strong and got blown up bad

 

[HIFE]

People are confusing the terms legal vs. clean. Kronwall's check was legal within the rules sure, but clean? f*** no. The common elements in every "Kronwalling" is his choice to unload into an unsuspecting player. He crosses over backwards until spotting an opponent with his head down and then moves in for the strike. I know a lot of fans love seeing it but it's absolutely a predatory hit.

This has been debated multiple times on the Wings board. I'm shocked he's never been attacked with punches for his recklessness. As said, I also always found it weird he doesn't mind potentially ending someone's career but is afraid to throw down and answer for his actions.

 

[MardyBum]

That wasn't a "Kronwall". That is cleaner than a "Kronwall".

 

[Anisimovs AK]

He has been...



Or Lee could've kept his head up and it never would've been part of the contact.

Going back to what I said at the start of this thread, only on HFBoards can a 6' 0" guy hit a 6' 3" guy and it's the 6' 0" guy's fault that the head was contacted.

I know what your logic is getting at, but lets say a short player like say, Steve Downie, hits a taller player, say Dean McCammond. The head is contacted. Now is all of the responsibility on McCammond to have his head up, or does some of the responsibility to not hit the head rest with Downie and not launching into the hit?

 

[Anisimovs AK]

The funniest thing is nobody comments on the play that was actually dirty, which was Bailey's slew foot on Kronwall minutes later.

This thread isnt about that though, so the lack of mentions makes sense

 

[islesmb]

 

[BritainStix]

Some babies in this thread. Maybe Lee should pick his head up off his toes. Great hit.

 

[Oddbob]

It’s not 2006 anymore

Also he could’ve thrown a hip check and caught him just as off guard

What on earth does this have to do with anything? One of the cardinal rules of hockey is, "KEEP YOUR HEAD UP!" They learn this way back when they are 3 years old! If you hit shoulder and then bounce into the head, that is not something that shouldn't be allowed. All of Kronwall's motions in this hit are legal, and a proper, and if Lee had done what is expected when you have the puck, and keep his head up, no head contact would have even happened on this play. When we nitpick about head contact, pretty soon players will just not be allowed to hit anymore, and the league will have All Star games, minus the all star lineups, and that would be terrible. Accidental contact with the head is going to happen in a contact sport, and this by league standards is a clean, legal hit. And by fan standards, it is an AMAZING AWESOME HIT. If Boychuk caught Larkin with this same hit, I would be saying the same thing, as it would be a beauty!

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

That's meaningless, if you are in a position to throw a hit but you will make contact with the head YOU CAN'T THROW THAT HIT. There are numerous effective plays you can make instead. Headshots just can't happen today, I don't care if it makes people who love wanton violence cry.

With all due respect if you have a problem with this hit maybe a non-contact sport is more to your liking

 

[Oddbob]

Thing is, Lee didn't suddenly put his head down it was already there therefore, Kronwall should have made sure to hit shoulder or body or not made the hit at all. Penalty should have been called.

NO, just no! Even the guy who received the hit, Anders Lee, said it was a good hit, and called it hockey! If it was a bad hit, no way he says this, not like him and Kronwall are friends and he is trying to protect his friend from looking bad.

Also want to point out, hockey players don't have Red Dead Redemption 2 Dead Eye when lining up a hit, and can then choose to execute or not execute. It is split second decision made at high speed. It is easy for us, even when there are dirty hits, to sit here and look at a 1000 slow motion replays and pick each hit apart. Players don't have this luxury, and even good intention hits, can go bad, and can sometimes be dirty.

Reality is, and some don't want to believe it, but if this bellyaching over clean hits doesn't stop, they will simply ban hitting eventually. I am being honest here, I would legit not be surprised if hitting gets banned within the next 10 years, because all the whiners and moaners are growing and raising hoopla over nothing. Hitting is already much lower than they used to be. If and when that happens, I and many many others (probably at least 65%+ of all fans) will no longer watch this great physical game called hockey!

 

[sabremike]

With all due respect if you have a problem with this hit maybe a non-contact sport is more to your liking

99.5% of hits in the league don't make contact to the head. Those I have no problem with. Know why? Bones and ligaments can heal, the brain can't. And to everyone who does the whole macho/old time hockey act know what those players from back then did? They sued the league.

 

[hector morrison]

Anybody remember when the DOPS said that most of Stevens hits wouldnt be suspension worthy?

No one?

Ok.

Remember folks, a hit can have head contact and still be legal in this league.

Got an example of 'legal headcheck'? Unseen,uncalled,debatable...maybe. It's my understanding that 'Headshots' are illegal.

 

[AKL]

Got an example of 'legal headcheck'? Unseen,uncalled,debatable...maybe. It's my understanding that 'Headshots' are illegal.

Depends on how you define "headshot"