Tom Wilson can also skate and is way better conditioned.
Confirmed with Link: [ANA/BOS] Danton Heinen for Nick Ritchie
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Tom Wilson can also skate and is way better conditioned.
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Like I said it’s not a direct comparison. Ritchie can’t skate like Wilson sure but he’s ahead in other areas. Wilson doesn’t see the game nearly as well with the puck on his stick down low like Ritchie does. Ritchie also has a better wrist shot when he actually uses it.
He may or may not break out like Wilson did but at the same point in their careers Ritchie has always been ahead offensively.
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No he’s not. Nobody said he was. But he’s ahead of where Wilson was at the same age.
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Well that's not true. Wilson's a year and a half older than Ritchie and his breakout was two years ago. These things aren't set in stone age wise or anything but Ritchie had better hurry if he's going to take those same steps Wilson did.
Interesting that Jones has scored 8 goals this year. From those who were picked later than him in his 2016 draft class, only Debrincat, Hronek, and Bratt have scored more this year.
Interesting how Heinen and Terry are both from U of Denver. Heinen looks plays exactly like Terry but a bit stronger. Still didn't look all that impressive in the 1st game, and I think he might be like Terry where you watch him and you think he can produce more than actually does.
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FWIW Wilson is 21 months older than Ritchie so it’s as good as 2 years.
And is true:
The season they turned 20:
Ritchie 4 pts 33 games (10 pt pace)
Wilson 10 pts 82 games
The year they turned 21:
Ritchie 28 points in 77 games (30 pt pace)
Wilson 17 points in 67 games (21 pt pace)
The year they turned 22:
Ritchie 27 points in 76 games (29 pt pace)
Wilson 23 points in 82 games
the year they turned 23:
Ritchie 31 points in 60 games (42 pt pace)
Wilson 19 points in 82 games
Ritchie’s current year:
Ritchie 19 points in 42 games (37 pt pace)
Wilson 35 pts in 77 games ( 37 pt pace)
So every year Ritchie has been ahead or equal to Wilson offensively, some years way ahead.
It’s not an exact science and I don’t think Ritchie will take quite the leap Wilson did but it’s one comparable of a guy with a similar pedigree who took a few years to figure it out.
And even if Ritchie does stagnate and stays the same player he’s still a very useful NHLer.
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Its 20 months, which is closer to a year and a half than it is 2 years. And in these seasons where they turn a certain age, Nick turns it a quarter or a third of the way into the season and Wilson turns it at the end. This is Ritchie's 24 year old season but no one would refer to this as Wilson's 26 year seasons season. Wilson took his first big steps as a 23 year old and truly broke out in the playoffs that year after his 24th birthday. Ritchie has already taken a bit of a step since his first full season but it's all roughly in a similar range.
I don't hate Nick at all, and you're right that he's a useful player, but if he's gonna take the leap Wilson did he probably should start showing signs of it soon. Starting out his career better than he did doesn't mean much if he's not showing the development Wilson did.
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I would too. Hopefully Jones can pick up his goal scoring. Right now he’s probably more 2018-19 Cogs than prime Cogs. But I think he has that potential.
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We lost the way the trade is now. Ritchie could get a lot better. Boston fans say Heinen will to, but I dont believe it. I just dont know if Ritchie needed new scenery just yet....
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I think it was a good trade for both teams
Lots of pressure for Ritchie to do something tonight
He had a goal and an assist. A good hit also
More skill and less good than I thought
Was kinda indifferent to the trade, this was his 2nd game with Boston, right? If Heinen can show something more in his 2nd game then will be optimistic at least. He did pick up an assist on a nice pass for the Henrique goal his first game. If he can bring some defense as well and some skill should be good. With Comtois getting close to NHL ready it likely pushed Ritchie out who Murray gave up on. I hope nothing but the best for Ritchie.
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Ritchie was never going to work out here. Good for him I hope he develops there
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Then we should ask why all these guys get better after leaving? If we notice I imagine people in the sport do too
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Loving Nick Ritchie
2 points tonight, huge blocked shot, 5 hits and the first star of the game. I think you guys gave up too early on the young former 10th overall pick. Mind you, Danton Heinen is a good player too but nothing near what our team needed or wanted. Thanks for the trade guys!
2 points tonight, huge blocked shot, 5 hits and the first star of the game. I think you guys gave up too early on the young former 10th overall pick. Mind you, Danton Heinen is a good player too but nothing near what our team needed or wanted. Thanks for the trade guys!
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It's probably best not to live and die with every good and bad game the two have lol. Heinen looked good I thought, Nick looked good, sounds good to me if everyone's happy.
That was a trade that should not have happened. You need that exact type player in the playoffs (which i think we will see over the next few years). Ritchie was 24 and was at worst going to be the player he is now for the next 5 years, but there was a very good chance he was going to be a late developer like Wilson, Lucic, etc. I think he has 30 goal 60 pt possibility as early as next year and we will be kicking ourselves.
Now unfortunately we will have to trade for someone just like him, or sign one as a FA when we need that type player.
Now unfortunately we will have to trade for someone just like him, or sign one as a FA when we need that type player.
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The Ducks needed to clean up their sloppiness and add speed. We've had Ritchie all season long and we're at the bottom of the league. I'm happy Ritchie is doing well there and might be a better fit. With the Ducks, Heinen did help the Ducks earn two points already. While many fans are enamored with point production, many fans do forget what occurs in the games. Heinen and the new infusion to the Ducks showed a different Ducks team. Anaheim was faster.
Heinen played 18:00 minutes on the ice and earned a primary assist. The TOI was 2nd most among Duck forwards. He had a plus/minus rating of 0.
Ritchie, on the other hand, has played in two games:
game 1, vs Calgary: 0 pts, plus/minus = -2, 14:17 TOI
game 2, vs Stars: 1g + 1a = 2 pts, plus/minus = +1, 12:59 TOI
It's a good trade for both teams. Ritchie gives them that potential explosion without relying on Ritchie to carry the team. Heinen already is helping the Ducks on the ice with the 2nd most TOI among the forwards to help beat the Oil. Like most Boston fans have shared, you won't notice Heinen much in the game. Yet, those Boston fans of Heinen will also include that not noticing him much is actually a good thing as his defense is at work and has some offense in him, which is how he sprung Rico to a goal in front of the net. (Article on Heinin: link )
It's a good trade for both teams. We get a 200 foot player who can be relied upon to be on the ice often.
Heinen played 18:00 minutes on the ice and earned a primary assist. The TOI was 2nd most among Duck forwards. He had a plus/minus rating of 0.
Ritchie, on the other hand, has played in two games:
game 1, vs Calgary: 0 pts, plus/minus = -2, 14:17 TOI
game 2, vs Stars: 1g + 1a = 2 pts, plus/minus = +1, 12:59 TOI
It's a good trade for both teams. Ritchie gives them that potential explosion without relying on Ritchie to carry the team. Heinen already is helping the Ducks on the ice with the 2nd most TOI among the forwards to help beat the Oil. Like most Boston fans have shared, you won't notice Heinen much in the game. Yet, those Boston fans of Heinen will also include that not noticing him much is actually a good thing as his defense is at work and has some offense in him, which is how he sprung Rico to a goal in front of the net. (Article on Heinin: link )
It's a good trade for both teams. We get a 200 foot player who can be relied upon to be on the ice often.
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You don't believe it in case of Heinen but Ritchie will for sure?
We also got players that turn out to be good at ANA while struggling elsewhere. Grant for instance.
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Did we gave up too early? Yes I think we did too. But Ritchie may be a good piece for your lineup but he had his difficulties here. If Nick wanted to be good he was, unfortunately most of the time he was not in this mode. Good for Ritchie that he can play with Pasternak. Kase will be good for you as well if he can stay healthy. And since I'm a fan of trades where both teams benefit, I really wish them to fit in at BOS.
