Confirmed with Link: Alyn McCauley named assistant GM, Riley Armstrong (director) & Nick Schultz (asst director) heads of player development

[Beef Invictus]

Schultz played 3 years with the Flyers out of a 16 year career.
Like a lot of decent but not great talents, he couldn't glide on his natural endowment.
Which is why these guys oft make better coaches, they're more aware of the little things you need to do to gain an edge over an opponent.

Or there's Adam Oates, who Luke Schenn went to in order to adapt his skillset to become a useful modern dman instead of an ancient relic of DPE dman development. And they succeeded at making that happen. Quite a feat, and shows that skills development is a thing that is constant and always happening regardless of career stage. Shame the Flyers don't know that.


Why hire him though? The Flyers apparently have all the talent to make a winning team in the team already. They've been here for years and years. That must be why the team is in its current position, all that massive throbbing competence.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

McCauley was a decent middle 6 center in NHL 06

That's all I got

 

[Flyerfan4life]

More blatant (but totally expected) proof that this board's attitude towards this franchise is still 100% justified.

And yet i can't join you guys down there just yet. I need to see Briere do something stupid with #7, or make another nonsensical Deslaurier signing or 2, or get fleeced in the Hayes/Provy trade, or just something that'll give me cuck or hexy flashbacks. Everything else about this team is indicating the same old song and dance, but until Briere makes actual hockey moves that he can be judged on, he's still the mystery box.

brace for same ol same ol.

cuz its coming...

 

[FlyerNutter]

Torts was right.

It is 100% a disease.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

If anyone knows a thing or 2 about talent, it's Nick Schultz

Heard an interview with Schultz on the Myrtetus podcast a few month ago. Bla bla "do it the right way", bla bla "work hard" blabla "learning to be a professional"

I have ZERO confidence in NICK SCHULTZ as a Developer

 

[Ironmanrulez]

A shakeup in the player development staff has been necessary for years. But it's hard to feel optimistic when the only thing the Flyers seem to know how to do is to promote someone from within the same department that's been struggling. No outside voices, no fresh perspective. Nick Schultz was hired as a player development coach in 2019, immediately after retiring from the NHL. In four years, he has become the head of player development. Can we point to any significant development successes in that time that merit his promotion to the role?

They only fired defense development coaches right? I think they are fine with the "offensive" development. They also want to draft defenseman. I think the whole front Office thinks we will win with better defenders and 2 more Laughtons in the lineup. So they draft dman and promoted a skilllless defenseman to the assistant director of player development. They really believe in this steps. Its already pretty obvious how bad this will be. Briere mentioned St. Louis on the BSB podcast. He want to emulate their.way. amd mentioned Boston. Saying: they won for yearS WITHOUT ELITE TALENT..... what the f*** is he Smoking!!!

We are soooo done!

 

[Audible Velvet]

Heard an interview with Schultz on the Myrtetus podcast a few month ago. Bla bla "do it the right way", bla bla "work hard" blabla "learning to be a professional"

I have ZERO confidence in NICK SCHULTZ as a Developer

Those same words have come out of every mouth in the organization a thousand times, more or less verbatim.

 

[Audible Velvet]

They only fired defense development coaches right? I think they are fine with the "offensive" development. They also want to draft defenseman. I think the whole front Office thinks we will win with better defenders and 2 more Laughtons in the lineup. So they draft dman and promoted a skilllless defenseman to the assistant director of player development. They really believe in this steps. Its already pretty obvious how bad this will be. Briere mentioned St. Louis on the BSB podcast. He want to emulate their.way. amd mentioned Boston. Saying: they won for yearS WITHOUT ELITE TALENT..... what the f*** is he Smoking!!!

We are soooo done!

Boston has also had goaltending. I bet they dream of having the next Chara, but that player is rare indeed. It absolutely helps to have a Bergeron on your team too.

 

[Danko]

Kjell was with the organization as a player for 9 years and then in a coaching/player development capacity since 2000, that's pretty crazy....if it wasn't the flyers. Born in 1958, yet being put in the capacity to work with young kids...sounds like a great recipe for development.

 

[deadhead]

If you put together a list of the top twenty players in the NHL, how many were in the final four this season?

McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Point, MacKinnon, Marner, Matthews, Rantanen, Crosby, Tkachuk, Barkov, Pastrnak, Hughes, [Robertson, Marchand]
Hedman, Maker, Josi, Fox [MacAvoy, Slavin]
Shesterkin, Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiv

No one in the top ten, a couple in the second ten or so.
So if you're not going to both tank for an elite player, and get lucky in the lottery (pick #1 the right season, not end up with #2 and JVR or Patrick, or #1 and LaFreniere or Power), you need to build a team.

Vegas has a bunch of good players, but no one who is elite, same with Dallas.
Florida has Tkachuk and Barkov, who are top ten picks but not top 3. Is Barkov as good as McDavid?
Carolina has Aho and Slavin, both picked outside the 1st rd and both probably partially the product of the system.

St Louis and Boston built around a physical defense, so has Vegas.
Carolina was a red hot Bob away from the SC Finals, they dominated Florida.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

If you put together a list of the top twenty players in the NHL, how many were in the final four this season?

McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Point, MacKinnon, Marner, Matthews, Rantanen, Crosby, Tkachuk, Barkov, Pastrnak, Hughes, [Robertson, Marchand]
Hedman, Maker, Josi, Fox [MacAvoy, Slavin]
Shesterkin, Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiv

No one in the top ten, a couple in the second ten or so.
So if you're not going to both tank for an elite player, and get lucky in the lottery (pick #1 the right season, not end up with #2 and JVR or Patrick, or #1 and LaFreniere or Power), you need to build a team.

Vegas has a bunch of good players, but no one who is elite, same with Dallas.
Florida has Tkachuk and Barkov, who are top ten picks but not top 3. Is Barkov as good as McDavid?
Carolina has Aho and Slavin, both picked outside the 1st rd and both probably partially the product of the system.

St Louis and Boston built around a physical defense, so has Vegas.
Carolina was a red hot Bob away from the SC Finals, they dominated Florida.

Holy confirmation bias, Batman.

P.S. Barkov was a 2nd overall pick and is he as good as McDavid? I don’t know, ask your Lord and Savior.

P.P.S. Props for finally spelling MacKinnon right but props taken away for spelling Makar wrong.

 

[wankstifier]

How soul crushing is it going to be to the dwindling Flyers faithful when the Penguins don't have an extended downturn?

 

[deadhead]

How soul crushing is it going to be to the dwindling Flyers faithful when the Penguins don't have an extended downturn?

Does Dubas walk on water? Because it's gonna take a miracle to save that franchise!

 

[Beef Invictus]

If you put together a list of the top twenty players in the NHL, how many were in the final four this season?

McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Point, MacKinnon, Marner, Matthews, Rantanen, Crosby, Tkachuk, Barkov, Pastrnak, Hughes, [Robertson, Marchand]
Hedman, Maker, Josi, Fox [MacAvoy, Slavin]
Shesterkin, Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiv

No one in the top ten, a couple in the second ten or so.
So if you're not going to both tank for an elite player, and get lucky in the lottery (pick #1 the right season, not end up with #2 and JVR or Patrick, or #1 and LaFreniere or Power), you need to build a team.

Vegas has a bunch of good players, but no one who is elite, same with Dallas.
Florida has Tkachuk and Barkov, who are top ten picks but not top 3. Is Barkov as good as McDavid?
Carolina has Aho and Slavin, both picked outside the 1st rd and both probably partially the product of the system.

St Louis and Boston built around a physical defense, so has Vegas.
Carolina was a red hot Bob away from the SC Finals, they dominated Florida.

Top players can only play for a little over a third of the game so they need support.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Does Dubas walk on water? Because it's gonna take a miracle to save that franchise!

Turning the Leafs around was a miracle.

 

[04hockey]

Does Dubas walk on water? Because it's gonna take a miracle to save that franchise!

this will be something to "watch" alright

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'm now more positive than ever that the Pens will lap us on a rebuild even with a later start, because the people who are always wrong about everything think it won't happen.

 

[deadhead]

This gives a sense of the complexity of adding new personnel before July 1 (when contracts generally expire):

Brad Treliving was recently announced as the 18th general manager in Toronto Maple Leafs history. . . another focus is the upcoming NHL entry draft, which Treliving will not be allowed to take part in. Chris Johnston of NorthStar Bets is reporting that this condition was put in place by the Calgary Flames when granting Toronto permission to talk to him. Treliving is under contract with Calgary until July 1st.

It’s not surprising to see the Flames attach a condition like this to Treliving as they were originally apprehensive about even allowing their long-time general manager to interview for other jobs before his contract expired. Three weeks ago, it was reported by The Hockey News that Calgary wasn’t allowing him to speak with teams, however they had a change of heart and let the 53-year-old pursue other employment. One would have to guess that the draft condition was a compromise Treliving, and the Maple Leafs had to make to move forward with the interview process.

It’s not unheard of for a team to block a former employee from participating in the entry draft, although it doesn’t happen often. In fact, it happened to the Flames back in 2000 when general manager Craig Button came over from the Dallas Stars and was blocked from taking part in draft day.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I'm now more positive than ever that the Pens will lap us on a rebuild even with a later start, because the people who are always wrong about everything think it won't happen.

Go for it for a few years, then tank it out for McKenna.

At least the Flyers secondary trash will be working extra hard though.

 

[macleish1974]

the only thing funnier than the Flyers is Slap Shot…we should have hired the Hanson brothers as senior management.

I saw the movie last night on Netflix hence the reference….

 

[04hockey]

I'm holding ALL AND ANY CRITICISM until after the Holidays

Can't we give the new Front Office some room and leeway for a short while ?

WTF

 

[FlyerNutter]

I'm holding ALL AND ANY CRITICISM until after the Holidays

Can't we give the new Front Office some room and leeway for a short while ?

WTF

I can appreciate the sentiment, but what about this FO feels new?

It’s the same people minus Chuck.

It simply reeks of a PR move by Comcast to try to calm a fanbase.

 

[deadhead]

I can appreciate the sentiment, but what about this FO feels new?

It’s the same people minus Chuck.

It simply reeks of a PR move by Comcast to try to calm a fanbase.

Clarke, Barber, Holmgren, Lombardi are gone, along with their long-time hires in Samuelson and Riley.
You haven't heard a single peep from them or about them, they may still have the title, but no one is asking them for advice.

McCauley was made Director of Player Personnel in February of 2022, same time Briere was made special assistant. Interesting timing.
Armstrong is Briere's guy, not the advisors.
Schultz has been with the Flyers for four years, he's not a "lifer."

Now there are a few guys to watch going forward:
Barry Hanrahan VP & assistant GM
Dave Brown, head of pro scouting
??? head of amateur scouting
Grundberg, head of European scouting
Kapanen, head of European development

But I suspect major changes won't occur until July, when replacements become available as contracts expire.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

If you put together a list of the top twenty players in the NHL, how many were in the final four this season?

McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Point, MacKinnon, Marner, Matthews, Rantanen, Crosby, Tkachuk, Barkov, Pastrnak, Hughes, [Robertson, Marchand]
Hedman, Maker, Josi, Fox [MacAvoy, Slavin]
Shesterkin, Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiv

No one in the top ten, a couple in the second ten or so.
So if you're not going to both tank for an elite player, and get lucky in the lottery (pick #1 the right season, not end up with #2 and JVR or Patrick, or #1 and LaFreniere or Power), you need to build a team.

Vegas has a bunch of good players, but no one who is elite, same with Dallas.
Florida has Tkachuk and Barkov, who are top ten picks but not top 3. Is Barkov as good as McDavid?
Carolina has Aho and Slavin, both picked outside the 1st rd and both probably partially the product of the system.

St Louis and Boston built around a physical defense, so has Vegas.
Carolina was a red hot Bob away from the SC Finals, they dominated Florida.

none of that changes the fact the flyers blow and willcomitnue that way for at least 4/5 years. They are behind pretty much every team in the conf and division.

This gives a sense of the complexity of adding new personnel before July 1 (when contracts generally expire):

Brad Treliving was recently announced as the 18th general manager in Toronto Maple Leafs history. . . another focus is the upcoming NHL entry draft, which Treliving will not be allowed to take part in. Chris Johnston of NorthStar Bets is reporting that this condition was put in place by the Calgary Flames when granting Toronto permission to talk to him. Treliving is under contract with Calgary until July 1st.

It’s not surprising to see the Flames attach a condition like this to Treliving as they were originally apprehensive about even allowing their long-time general manager to interview for other jobs before his contract expired. Three weeks ago, it was reported by The Hockey News that Calgary wasn’t allowing him to speak with teams, however they had a change of heart and let the 53-year-old pursue other employment. One would have to guess that the draft condition was a compromise Treliving, and the Maple Leafs had to make to move forward with the interview process.

It’s not unheard of for a team to block a former employee from participating in the entry draft, although it doesn’t happen often. In fact, it happened to the Flames back in 2000 when general manager Craig Button came over from the Dallas Stars and was blocked from taking part in draft day.

do you think Teviling is relaying any info to the leafs on what he knows about the upcoming draft? he is spilling his guts to now help his new team.

I'm now more positive than ever that the Pens will lap us on a rebuild even with a later start, because the people who are always wrong about everything think it won't happen.

cooley will stay in college for 4 years then sign with the pens as a free agent. Then convince Cutter to do the same!!!

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Clarke, Barber, Holmgren, Lombardi are gone, along with their long-time hires in Samuelson and Riley.
You haven't heard a single peep from them or about them, they may still have the title, but no one is asking them for advice.

McCauley was made Director of Player Personnel in February of 2022, same time Briere was made special assistant. Interesting timing.
Armstrong is Briere's guy, not the advisors.
Schultz has been with the Flyers for four years, he's not a "lifer."

Now there are a few guys to watch going forward:
Barry Hanrahan VP & assistant GM
Dave Brown, head of pro scouting
??? head of amateur scouting
Grundberg, head of European scouting
Kapanen, head of European development

But I suspect major changes won't occur until July, when replacements become available as contracts expire.

any links to barber and lombardi being gone?

They will let some go after the draft from that list above imo