Confirmed with Link: Alyn McCauley named assistant GM, Riley Armstrong (director) & Nick Schultz (asst director) heads of player development

[Starat327]

Nice! I don't think we could come up with a better food metaphor for this FO than tourtière; i.e., grinding meat and making it crusty.

I would absolutely love to take credit for this like i knew that was a thing. Alas....

 

[macleish1974]

The Flyers management reminds of the senior official inGA who stated why are globe’s sold in stores when god said the earth is flat….??? What a goop. The only thing strange about it , I was surprised the dunderhead was not from FL…..

wait till they ban meatballs….just like the Flyers ban talent….

Today I am on the Benson bandwagon , sad though a defenseman can catch up to him on a breakaway , and the same defenseman thrashed him to the ice along the boards, but he gets up and chases the play and took the puck back; feisty little MF…

 

[Beef Invictus]

Most def. Dubas walks in to Pittsburgh, and fires people on day one. The Flyers need to pull out an Ouija board - and hold a ceremony to determine if 67 year old Mike O’Connell should be let go. While Meltzer is writing sob stories about Kjell not being found another position in the org. Dave Brown still is here.

Lombardi is another important man that remains because seemingly a good chunk of these guys have ties to him.

On a tangent, it’s also funny to see the tone shift from ASF in particular in writing an article that, that is exactly what needs to happen (mass firings) - to the unwavering support given out today.

Jones was a little rat giving leaks.

It all reeks.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

It's inevitable that we are going to learn that the team which wants to build in the spirit of the 70s has been asking the guys from the 70s about making that happen. Then severely elaborate mental gymnastics will occur.

Again, it depends on how one views the 70's teams. If you feel like the Flyers need to have a bunch of muckers and goons like Bob Kelly and Dave Schultz, yes, we're screwed. If you analyze why they really won two cups and beat the Bobby Orr Bruins, they won because they has crazy skill with the LCB line, Rick MacLeish centering the second line, having a very good D corps with the Watson brothers and Ed Van Impe, and of course, having a goalie like Bernie Parent that stood on his head. They did it with skill, the side show shit didn't win them a cup. But again, it's how you interpret it,

 

[Beef Invictus]

Again, it depends on how one views the 70's teams. If you feel like the Flyers need to have a bunch of muckers and goons like Bob Kelly and Dave Schultz, yes, we're screwed. If you analyze why they really won two cups and beat the Bobby Orr Bruins, they won because they has crazy skill with the LCB line, Rick MacLeish centering the second line, having a very good D corps with the Watson brothers and Ed Van Impe, and of course, having a goalie like Bernie Parent that stood on his head. They did it with skill, the side show shit didn't win them a cup. But again, it's how you interpret it,

What has this team said or done in the last decade to make it be anything but the former? Even Briere lusted for Deslauriers. There isn't any other team in the NHL as enthralled with mucking grinders.

Their own revisionist self-image, per the way they talk about those teams and themselves, is that they didn't win on skill, even though they did. They won on work. Skill is for entitled brats who should be punished, a lazy shortcut, and they'd never ever take lazy shortcuts in their careers...like being born with massive talent. It's Old-Man Brain in action among a circle of cronies engaged in a mutual feedback loop, deifying and warping their own accomplishments to denigrate the supposedly inferior lazy youth.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Again, it depends on how one views the 70's teams. If you feel like the Flyers need to have a bunch of muckers and goons like Bob Kelly and Dave Schultz, yes, we're screwed. If you analyze why they really won two cups and beat the Bobby Orr Bruins, they won because they has crazy skill with the LCB line, Rick MacLeish centering the second line, having a very good D corps with the Watson brothers and Ed Van Impe, and of course, having a goalie like Bernie Parent that stood on his head. They did it with skill, the side show shit didn't win them a cup. But again, it's how you interpret it,

They had skill on the LCB line but two of those guys are part of this festering shithole that wants no skill...

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

They had skill on the LCB line but two of those guys are part of this festering shithole that wants no skill...

Which is infuriating. How do the skill guys who know how those cups were really won suddenly have amnesia?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Which is infuriating. How do the skill guys who know how those cups were really won suddenly have amnesia?

Clarke has been this way for a very, very long time.

Holmgren is the one that baffles and annoys me the most. Look at how he was building teams and developing players until around 2012/13 onwards, when he started plummeting into the values we see from the team today. Lots of skilled players. Young guys getting a shot, MANY shots, being allowed to play the styles that they were best at. Creativity and dictating the games encouraged. No trying to remake players into something else, no pointless futility for the sake of futility, no refusing to use a young player because he doesn't fit an archaic role stereotype. Finding actually good players in the margins. Playing a game in line with the times.

It's like he gave up/gave in when his way went wrong and started seeing the sport like Clarke once Bryzgalov flopped hard and fast and dove deep into the pool of the hallowed past to glorify mucking, grinding, defense over all to make a meatshield in front of Snider's grievous failure. The indications, from when he resigned/was promoted, was that he was worn out and ready to check out, completely tired of the rigors of GMing and the emotional toll of moving players. And then after that, remained checked out enough to just do whatever Clarke suggested per all we heard about the Fletcher hiring "process". Retire if you're at that stage, dude. How did that guy go so very wrong?

 

[BernieParent]

I would absolutely love to take credit for this like i knew that was a thing. Alas....

In my books, Tortière is your copyright.

 

[deadhead]

The gymnastics are already beginning as each post gets a simple answer to show it's off base.

I mean we went from Kimmo would be a good advisor to we don't know if he'd be interested in hockey management to we have no idea what their relationship is...

What's the contradiction? Kimmo would be a good advisor (supports a rebuild, obviously believes in mobile D-men) on paper.
But you don't hire someone as an advisor unless you have a relationship where you'd actually listen to his advice.
Kimmo's activities in Finland are in his home town, and not just hockey but I think a couple restaurants.

Most def. Dubas walks in to Pittsburgh, and fires people on day one. The Flyers need to pull out an Ouija board - and hold a ceremony to determine if 67 year old Mike O’Connell should be let go. While Meltzer is writing sob stories about Kjell not being found another position in the org. Dave Brown still is here.

Lombardi is another important man that remains because seemingly a good chunk of these guys have ties to him.

On a tangent, it’s also funny to see the tone shift from ASF in particular in writing an article that, that is exactly what needs to happen (mass firings) - to the unwavering support given out today.

Jones was a little rat giving leaks.

Dubas fired three people, waiting to hire "his people" from Toronto.
Briere fired three people, promoted his people.
Hmm.

Scouts are here b/c draft and free agency is coming up, and replacement scouts probably aren't available until July 1.

 

[deadhead]

Again, it depends on how one views the 70's teams. If you feel like the Flyers need to have a bunch of muckers and goons like Bob Kelly and Dave Schultz, yes, we're screwed. If you analyze why they really won two cups and beat the Bobby Orr Bruins, they won because they has crazy skill with the LCB line, Rick MacLeish centering the second line, having a very good D corps with the Watson brothers and Ed Van Impe, and of course, having a goalie like Bernie Parent that stood on his head. They did it with skill, the side show shit didn't win them a cup. But again, it's how you interpret it,

Nor does Briere give a shit about the 1970s teams.
His big run was with the 2006-2011 Flyers:
Richards, Carter, Hartnell, Gagne, Kimmo then Giroux, Pronger.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Nor does Briere give a shit about the 1970s teams.
His big run was with the 2006-2011 Flyers:
Richards, Carter, Hartnell, Gagne, Kimmo then Giroux, Pronger.

Right, yeah, definitely has no connection with the 70s guys and hasn't spent any time with them at all either.

Remind me, who was running the Flyers in that time span?