Speculation: All Purpose Pierre-Luc Dubois Discussion 4.0

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When these situations get ugly in the public eye, getting an established top roster player goes out the window because no GM wants to trade a guy with deeper roots to the team for a guy embroiled in controversy. Just the way it goes

At best, the framework for a return becomes a young blue chip guy and picks.

Duchene, Johansen, Drouin, Trouba all follow this.
 
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I’d like PLD in Montreal (not for the insane price the CLB board is asking though) but I fully support Torts on this. Bench his ass if he plays like that.

Unacceptable, be professional.
 

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Newhook+ is still the the best package and fit I've seen yet. Newhook+Kadri+a good asset.
This would be a total win win. Sakic needs to do this IMO, especially if he wants to win the Cup this year!
 

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When these situations get ugly in the public eye, getting an established top roster player goes out the window because no GM wants to trade a guy with deeper roots to the team for a guy embroiled in controversy. Just the way it goes

At best, the framework for a return becomes a young blue chip guy and picks.

Duchene, Johansen, Drouin, Trouba all follow this.
Yep. Honestly, it’s very unfair to Columbus. But the the truth is they’re losing trade leverage extremely quickly right now.
 

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Yep. Honestly, it’s very unfair to Columbus. But the the truth is they’re losing trade leverage extremely quickly right now.
Wait until all our jaws hit the ground when Jarmo pulls out the steal of the century.

I can’t see Jarmo lose this trade. The kid is 22. Worst case scenario, bench him nonstop till you get what you want lol. Or tell the kid to move his ass if he wants his ass moved fast.
 

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After seeing PLD with the famous shift, I hope the Habs is not going to trade for him. Completely unprofessional.
 

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Wait until all our jaws hit the ground when Jarmo pulls out the steal of the century.
If he does, good for him honestly.

But he clearly wasn’t getting the offer he wanted when this all started. Conventional wisdom would suggest the offers don’t improve at this point. Crazier things have happened, but I wouldn’t want to be in his position right now.
 

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If he does, good for him honestly.

But he clearly wasn’t getting the offer he wanted when this all started. Conventional wisdom would suggest the offers don’t improve at this point. Crazier things have happened, but I wouldn’t want to be in his position right now.
That's kind of a given, because what he wanted was "we get to keep our guy".
 

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I was thinking Henrique and Zegras from Anaheim initially, but now I dont think it will take that much.
 

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If he does, good for him honestly.

But he clearly wasn’t getting the offer he wanted when this all started. Conventional wisdom would suggest the offers don’t improve at this point. Crazier things have happened, but I wouldn’t want to be in his position right now.
If we look at it in a different angle, maybe the teams who are really interested in him (and I’m sure most teams are), will impulsively make a more aggressive push thinking the trade is imminent and that they just can’t miss out, and yeah... we all know when we act out of impulse, anything can happen!
 

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Newhook+ is still the the best package and fit I've seen yet. Newhook+Kadri+a good asset.
Something tells me Joe Sakic won't be looking to trade all that for a marginal upgrade on Kadri after he saw how PLD is handling himself.
 

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How about a simple " we are not going to let this be a distraction. PLD is under contract for 2 more seasons and Jarmo will only move him when we get full value for our budding,young star"

Its only a distraction if the player dogs it the way he did.

Other wise it was a very innocent interview
 

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They should trade him to a rebuilding team so he can enjoy losing the next few years. Why reward him by sending him to a contender where he actually tries his best and then also make the Jackets look dumb for trading him?
 

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He could have just said next question. He’s done that before . He did what he wanted . It’s working out real well for him .

He answered matter of factly. He didn't broach the subject.

Guys get shit on when they avoid questions and when they answer them.

I have always appreciated Torts honesty.

Its refreshing in today's bullshit world
 

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They should trade him to a rebuilding team so he can enjoy losing the next few years. Why reward him by sending him to a contender where he actually tries his best and then also make the Jackets look dumb for trading him?
A rebuilding team trying to instill a culture isn't going to trade for that.
 

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I was thinking Henrique and Zegras from Anaheim initially, but now I dont think it will take that much.
I think the situation is killing any chance that a top prospect involved

I think ultimately it’ll be a package like
-Roster player
- solid prospect
-protected first
-2nd/prospect in the same value area
 
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"But but but but but but MUST BLAME TORTS"

Well he and the GM owns half the blame. You don’t negotiate hard and also call people out in the media. Who would work well when their boss is micromanaging them and finding any faults and harassing/bullying you? Torta is someone you don’t want to work for... he’s an alpha and his ego is too big for star players. That’s why Foglino is the captain... Torts doesn’t want to have a superstar outshine him.
 
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