All Purpose Coronavirus Discussion Part IX: [READ SITE RULE IN OP] Monorail Business Is A Boomin

[pit]

Oh, crud.

This is the kind of scandal that Striiker/Big Toe are going to pick up and run with. It's like the Clinton e-mails. They will win by default.

I hope you're both proud of yourselves.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

This is the kind of scandal that Striiker/Big Toe are going to pick up and run with. It's like the Clinton e-mails. They will win by default.

I hope you're both proud of yourselves.

Keep reading. The news cycle is a fickle thing.

 

[pit]

Keep reading. The news cycle is a fickle thing.

Well that October surprise got released a bit early.

 

[deadhead]

There is plenty of motivation there.


There are reports that up to 80% are asymptomatic. There is no way the total infected is just double. No way. It’s easily in to the millions. The dead from it is pretty accurate. The death rate will be around 1% max imo. That’s still a lot but we got lucky it wasn’t more. Or that it didn’t cause paralysis or brain damage. Or cirrhosis. Or kidney failure. All those things are still on the table but this isn’t the worst thing that could have caused a pandemic. That many asymptotic is pretty telling.

We simply don't know.
If the rate is
80% - 4% mortality rate becomes 0.8% (still 6-7 times the worst flu with the potential to infect 2 to 4X as many people)
50% - 4% mortality rate becomes 2.0%
25% - 4% mortality rate becomes 3.0%

"What did we learn (see the table for the analysis)

• That between 5% and 80% of people testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 may be asymptomatic
• That symptom-based screening will miss cases, perhaps a lot of them
• That some asymptomatic cases will become symptomatic over the next week (sometimes known as “pre-symptomatics”)
• That children and young adults can be asymptomatic

We also learnt that there is not a single reliable study to determine the number of asymptotics. It is likely we will only learn the true extent once population based antibody testing is undertaken."

COVID-19: What proportion are asymptomatic? - CEBM

Estimating the asymptomatic proportion of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases on board the Diamond Princess cruise ship, Yokohama, Japan, 2020
Hidden coronavirus infections could be seeding new outbreaks
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.20.20025866v2

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@JojoTheWhale Thoughts?

 

[Curufinwe]

I work for a tech company and we were set up to work from home, and often did an hour or two of overtime remotely on weeknights and weekends. But as recently as a couple of years ago we still had to come in in terrible winter weather (or use vacation time) when we could have easily done our jobs from home for a day. Looking back now it seems ridiculous, but until we really HAD to work from home I guess it just didn't occur to management.

 

[Starat327]

One of you is going to have to take the fall

A Message from the Campaign for HF Freedom -- HC/Starat 2020

We regret to inform you that at approximately 10:23 a.m, a vicious cyber assault attacked the personal devices of Hollywood Couturier and Starat327. These assaults attempted to allude to the idea that both candidates were in some way, shape, or form connected to some sort of insider trading ring. We want to categorically deny that these posts were in any way true. This campaign is intent on restoring the freedoms of the HF people, and would never compromise that intent for personal gain.

Rest assured we are working diligently to identify the root of the attack. As of now, our folks have identified that the IP came from the Lehigh Valley area, and we'll have more information shortly.

 

[Jack Straw]

@JojoTheWhale Thoughts?

 

[Starat327]

@JojoTheWhale Thoughts?

This is the most fascist thing ive ever read. I feel personally attacked.

Signed,

Someone sitting here in paint covered track pants

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@WeHaveBeenFletched

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@JojoTheWhale Thoughts?

Pajama pants or basketball shorts all day, every day. Do something about it, fascists.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Chinatown88]

Me waiting to read Striiker's retaliatory responses.

 

[Appleyard]

Pajama pants or basketball shorts all day, every day. Do something about it, fascists.

My preference in summer when working from home is usually:

A vest... Vans loose fit ones generally. Handy pocket on the front as well for... pens and stuff?
Surf shorts. (netting=no annoying underwear needed... and can go and jump in bodies of water with no worries if I want to)

But right now it is:
Tshirt
Cable knit jumper
Jeans

As the weather is unpredictable as f*** and if I was in a vest and shorts I would be a bit cold when there is a draft.

I actually really find well fitted jeans comfortable.

 

[Striiker]

Nope, we do the exact opposite. People love crooked politicians. They've been voting for them for years.

Oops, this wasn't a PM.

BREAKING NEWS:
Sources: Vice President/President Hopeful Ruled Ineligible Due To Not Reaching The Age Requirement

According to multiple confirmed sources, it has been determined that Presidential/Vice Presidential hopeful @Striiker has been ruled out of the race due to not meeting the minimum age requirement to hold office.

Please stand by as this is an ongoing situation and we will get you more information as it comes in.

A Message from the Campaign for HF Freedom -- HC/Starat 2020

We regret to inform you that at approximately 10:23 a.m, a vicious cyber assault attacked the personal devices of Hollywood Couturier and Starat327. These assaults attempted to allude to the idea that both candidates were in some way, shape, or form connected to some sort of insider trading ring. We want to categorically deny that these posts were in any way true. This campaign is intent on restoring the freedoms of the HF people, and would never compromise that intent for personal gain.

Rest assured we are working diligently to identify the root of the attack. As of now, our folks have identified that the IP came from the Lehigh Valley area, and we'll have more information shortly.

 

[TheKingPin]

Good news is that there will never be proper data for anyone to actually pat themselves on their back about "I was right, the rate was thiiiiiis low". Lots of cases are asymptomatic, officials (at least in CZE) love to talk about how "this guy had corona but actually he had sooooooooooo many other problems", various countries do not look for corona in fatalities who were not positively tested prior death (or were asymptomatic; Italy doesnt even have capacities to do that) etc.
I.e. its a great talking point for internet pissing match - but there is (or will be) hardly enough sufficient, quality data to support claim of either side of the argument.

Reports on numbers of asymptomatic should viewed cautiously. First, reports have been bouncing that number all the way from 20% to 80%, that I've seen. That's quite an enormous MOE. Secondly, how many of those are false positives, how many are presymptomatic vs. asymptomatic, etc.? We need vastly expanded testing capacity to have the best possible data on hand if we're going to be able to make informed decisions moving forward, and this administration seems completely incapable of addressing that.

I’m drawing on my professional experience as well. I am seeing people come to the hospital asymptotic and fell off a ladder, MVCs etc and having pneumonia. More people with clear lungs coming in for abdominal pain and or diarrhea testing positive. The antibody testing will give a very good idea on the spread.

@WeHaveBeenFletched

Fletch prob requested Minnesota for games.

 

[landsbergfan]

This thread is starting to get a bit political

 

[kudymen]

I’m drawing on my professional experience as well. I am seeing people come to the hospital asymptotic and fell off a ladder, MVCs etc and having pneumonia. More people with clear lungs coming in for abdominal pain and or diarrhea testing positive. The antibody testing will give a very good idea on the spread.



Fletch prob requested Minnesota for games.

Oh I was not getting at anything you said - I am just sceptical regarding if we will ever see one actual trustowrthy mortality number, given all the variables.

 

[Starat327]

Wait a second...

A Message from the Campaign for HF Freedom -- HC/Starat 2020

We regret to inform you that at approximately 10:23 a.m, a vicious cyber assault attacked the personal devices of Hollywood Couturier and Starat327. These assaults attempted to allude to the idea that both candidates were in some way, shape, or form connected to some sort of insider trading ring. We want to categorically deny that these posts were in any way true. This campaign is intent on restoring the freedoms of the HF people, and would never compromise that intent for personal gain.

Rest assured we are working diligently to identify the root of the attack. As of now, our folks have identified that the IP came from the Lehigh Valley area, and we'll have more information shortly.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Pajama pants or basketball shorts all day, every day. Do something about it, fascists.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Uh... I’m driving from the office. There’s Christmas music on the radio.

This is a simulation.

 

[Starat327]

On a related note, for the project that has engulfed my last 3 weeks or so:

Health care workers receiving relief packages from the city

 

[Starat327]

Uh... I’m driving from the office. There’s Christmas music on the radio.

This is a simulation.

you really need to start letting me know so you can drop off some DN.

 

[kudymen]

Wolf from Wall Street made some big time stock money and he can already hear Christmas music.. lol

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

you really need to start letting me know so you can drop off some DN.

I am at office six days a week.