Proposal: All Bruins Trade talk - Mod Warning in OP

[Mr. Make-Believe]

If the retained salary and we could move some salary in the trade, I’d love Voracek on Krejci’s line. Can’t see it happening without moving Krug because they’re not taking Backes.

Bruins can add Voracek today and be cap compliant...

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

OR

DeBrusk - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Marchand - Krejci - Senyshyn/Cehlarik

Ew. That's gross.

 

[Flannelman]

Neither Seny or Cehlarik are waiver eligible, correct? I wouldn’t mind a look to see if there’s instant mesh. Games on 16, 17 and 19th before break would be interesting to see them in.

 

[TCB]

Ew. That's gross.

Not a Chance.

Marchand is world class and can play with anybody and make them better and him and Kreech played well together already. The Bergy line keeps rolling ,DeBrusk is a scorer and non - stop relentless. His fore-check and pressure will create a lot of turnovers.Pasta is world class and Bergys, Bergy enough said.

The only question is how would Senyshyn or Cehlarik do once given a chance.

 

[bp13]

Donny must do the following . Do not trade blue chips vak stud senyshyn lauzon Federic donato . Secondly no giving up 1 st round picks. Only grez zboril danton Bjork on the table to get major target. If it doesn't materialize go get a cheap rental and plug in and have faith on our great D and goaltending to ride us to cup. If it doesn't happen we can insert our blue chips next year and watch them grow.

Right. Because the lifeblood of this team, and the only reason they are where they are, Bergeron/Marchand, are only getting younger. We have all the time in the world!

 

[Flannelman]

Also, and I may have missed pages or outright threads, but I’m also curious about Brian Boyle as the smaller add. He’s always been interesting to me and we have the cap space.

 

[bp13]

I still don't understand why we are talking about "small adds" and "rentals".

Rentals cost futures, and if you don't have secondary scoring or a 3rd line center, the future is all that matters. May as well keep the futures and kick the can down the road to next year.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Bruins can add Voracek today and be cap compliant...

Yeah but it could be difficult to sign Mcavoy and Carlo this summer and fit everyone under the cap. Trading Backes would help, but Mcavoy and Carlo could be 8-10M. I guess if they could add Voracek and keep Krug this season then that’s fine, moving Backes will be huge.

 

[BB88]

But they could do right now that without making an addition:

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Heinen - Krejci - Pastrnak

Those are two lines that should work plenty well. They just would destroy the third unit which appears to be clicking.

Are you saying you think they don't need a top6 addition?

 

[Flannelman]

I still don't understand why we are talking about "small adds" and "rentals".

Rentals cost futures, and if you don't have secondary scoring or a 3rd line center, the future is all that matters. May as well keep the futures and kick the can down the road to next year.

Not sure if you’re directly talking to me, bp, but my thought above is based on the player being a secondary move and not the only/primary move. I’m operating under the expectation of a Schenn/Saad level add and this being a complimentary add. I feel like the Bruins need at least two forward adds, one in the top 6 and the other to galvanize the third.

I understand the point you’re trying to make and agree to an extent but I feel like the east is open enough and they’re not that far away.

 

[bp13]

Not sure if you’re directly talking to me, bp, but my thought above is based on the player being a secondary move and not the only/primary move. I’m operating under the expectation of a Schenn/Saad level add and this being a complimentary add. I feel like the Bruins need at least two forward adds, one in the top 6 and the other to galvanize the third.

I understand the point you’re trying to make and agree to an extent but I feel like the east is open enough and they’re not that far away.

Ok then I think we are in agreement.

The East is “open” somewhat, but the Bruins aren’t beating the Caps or the Lightning in a 7 game series without a REAL improvement up front. Nibbling at the edges with a rental vet alone is just CYA management.

If they really intend to compete this year, they need a real trade for a quality top 6 winger or a 3C AND probably another complimentary forward
add. Like you said...go get Schenn/Saad and then go get your rental. You need both.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Are you saying you think they don't need a top6 addition?

I'm saying shuffling negates the benefit of doing so. If the idea is that you bring in a guy just to move Pasta to the second line, it's a needless move.

If you want to maintain continuity however, then adding the player straight to Krejci's right is the smart play.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Go after Schenn, give them Backes back, he kills every line he is on. Blues need the locker room general and leadership. We have to move out salary for Schenn. Grizz, picks and prospects will not help the cap. They need that if they decide on going after 2 players. No one else wants Backes but they may actually need his experience right about now.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Go after Schenn, give them Backes back, he kills every line he is on. Blues need the locker room general and leadership. We have to move out salary for Schenn. Grizz, picks and prospects will not help the cap. They need that if they decide on going after 2 players. No one else wants Backes but they may actually need his experience right about now.

Backes has an NTC/NMC

 

[Gordoff]

Right. Because the lifeblood of this team, and the only reason they are where they are, Bergeron/Marchand, are only getting younger. We have all the time in the world!

You forgot the

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Backes has an NTC/NMC

Maybe he moves it for St Louis, man that is one of the worst deals the Bruins have ever roped themselves into

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Backes has an NTC/NMC

And if he was going to waive, it stands to reason that STL might be one of the places he'd agree to go to

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Yeah but it could be difficult to sign Mcavoy and Carlo this summer and fit everyone under the cap. Trading Backes would help, but Mcavoy and Carlo could be 8-10M. I guess if they could add Voracek and keep Krug this season then that’s fine, moving Backes will be huge.

I'm not sure that difficulty would exist.

Just a quick glance has the Bruins at $63M and 16 players next year. I'm saying $10M between Carlo and McAvoy is a fair estimate (over/under). Should give the Bruins $10M in space and five roster spots. Assuming 3 are scratched, ~$7M for two more?

I'm being pretty generous with my estimates, really. Lots of ifs and buts, but the result is the same. It wouldn't be a $5M/yr adjustment to make Voracek fit.

Not that I would be opposed to dumping Backes off to the lowest bidder.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

And if he was going to waive, it stands to reason that STL might be one of the places he'd agree to go to

DOUBTFUL, why would Backes want to uproot to go back to a reported dysfunctional franchise, St. Louis has done what to make them a consistent contender since Backes came here?

 

[Ratty]

Worded that the wrong way.

He’s either been Bjork and McAvoy unlucky or maybe just a injury prone player.

To me an “injury prone” player is one who has a congenital malady, physical weakness or weak ankles, shoulder that periodically pops out, something like that.

But, if you look at his injury history and can”t pin it on some ongoing issue, just different injuries or illnesses unrelated, it has to be bad luck.

Peter is a guy who likes to jam against the boards, and is mostly successful at it. That, and his good passing skill make him a worthy prospect. I suppose if he shied away from contact he would have fewer boo boos. But we don’t want that.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I'm not sure that difficulty would exist.

Just a quick glance has the Bruins at $63M and 16 players next year. I'm saying $10M between Carlo and McAvoy is a fair estimate (over/under). Should give the Bruins $10M in space and five roster spots. Assuming 3 are scratched, ~$7M for two more?

I'm being pretty generous with my estimates, really. Lots of ifs and buts, but the result is the same. It wouldn't be a $5M/yr adjustment to make Voracek fit.

I wonder what the ask would be? Does Heinen, Zboril, a 1st and 2nd get it done? I’m not sure but Philadelphia sheds a lot of salary for solid futures. Kinda kills the 3rd line though.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I wonder what the ask would be? Does Heinen, Zboril, a 1st and 2nd get it done? I’m not sure but Philadelphia sheds a lot of salary for solid futures. Kinda kills the 3rd line though.

Yeah, I have no idea. And as is typical for that Flyers organization, I'm not sure they do either. Didn't Voracek just sign that deal?

The greater point I'm trying to make here is, that I think we're so used to the Bruins headbutting the cap ceiling that we naturally fear the big-ticket add. But due in no small part to the savvy deals given to Pasta, Bergy and Marshy... They're actually in pretty decent shape.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Voracek would be a dream get.

losing Heinen on the kid line would hurt but Nordstrom will be back & Donato/JFK/Backes would work too.

 

[DominicT]

I believe the Blues are looking at Connor McMichael right now.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Yeah, I have no idea. And as is typical for that Flyers organization, I'm not sure they do either. Didn't Voracek just sign that deal?

The greater point I'm trying to make here is, that I think we're so used to the Bruins headbutting the cap ceiling that we naturally fear the big-ticket add. But due in no small part to the savvy deals given to Pasta, Bergy and Marshy... They're actually in pretty decent shape.

Signed it in 2015 and for some insane reason, he doesn’t have a NTC. I say if Pastrnak can’t play with Krejci, we get him the next best Czech winger.