Proposal: All Bruins Trade talk - Mod Warning in OP

[TCB]

I always wondered if there was bad blood between the Kings and Boston managment and that Sweeney got a bad first impression as the newly manager to his colleagues after the Jones trade. I mean the Kings wanted Jones keep out of the west because they knew that he could help their competition to get a great goalie. Then Sweeney turns around, trades Jones back to the west and to one of their biggest rivals. Somehow after that it looked like that Sweeney had trouble to find trading partners. Maybe someone with more inside knowledge can give more information about it?

Bang On.
"How do like me Now"

Always wondered this myself. It sure couldn't have helped,one hell of a first impression.

It would be like the Bruins trading Vaak or Lauzon to the Kings and then they flip him to the Leafs or Habs.

 

[DKH]

You guys aren’t very close but the Bruins are

 

[BB88]

LeBrun lists 6 serious potential landing spots for Wayne Simmonds.

" It does sound like the Bruins have inquired about Simmonds but it's unclear how much interest there really is from the Bruins organization at this time."

Not big on Simmonds, but the Bruins would be Crazy if they didn't check in, to see what the price is.

The biggest problem with Simmonds addition is the chance of them trying to re-sign him.

Simmonds brings back too many 2016 July 1st memories.

 

[TCB]

The biggest problem with Simmonds addition is the chance of them trying to re-sign him.

Simmonds brings back too many 2016 July 1st memories.

im more worried about his play. I think its deteriorated to the point he's just not that big physical,intimidating scoring threat he used to be.

I see a Matt Beleskey/Kevin Stevens/David Backes clone all in one.

I could be wrong and he might break-out and really help a team, but I wouldn't pay a lot to find out. In the few games I've seen him play and highlights, he just seems to be stuck in first gear and can't get out.

 

[BB88]

im more worried about his play. I think its deteriorated to the point he's just not that big physical,intimidating scoring threat he used to be.

I see a Matt Beleskey/Kevin Stevens/David Backes clone all in one.

I could be wrong and he might break-out and really help a team, but I wouldn't pay a lot to find out. In the few games I've seen him play and highlights, he just seems to be stuck in first gear and can't get out.

I don't want him because most likely some Gm is going to pay for his old reputation and pay for his old reputation.

Whoever signs Simmonds is looking at a potential Lucic/Eriksson/Ladd type UFA signing.

 

[wintersej]

No, no, no don't even go there.

If they want to go anywhere in the playoffs we are looking at competing with teams like Tampa/Washington/Toronto here.
This team seriously lacks a top6 talent from the roster, as did last year.

Yes. While the D is even better than last year, the middle six that was the Achilles heel is WORSE. Having Backes (even if he has been better!) as your #2RW ain't gonna cut it.

 

[ON3M4N]

Call me crazy, but I'd love to see Senyshyn get a look on the RW with Krejci/DeBrusk or Marchand/Bergeron.

 

[BB88]

Yes. While the D is even better than last year, the middle six that was the Achilles heel is WORSE. Having Backes (even if he has been better!) as your #2RW ain't gonna cut it.

What makes it look worse is the improvements made by Tampa& Toronto, Sweeney hasn't answered to those at all.

It was already a weakness, and competitors have upgraded their midd6's.

 

[TCB]

Call me crazy, but I'd love to see Senyshyn get a look on the RW with Krejci/DeBrusk or Marchand/Bergeron.

You and about a million other Bruins fans.


PS...Along with Cehlarik

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

You guys aren’t very close but the Bruins are

Most of us are just regular people who follow the Bruins for fun. We’re mostly not Murphys who think we know things on the Tweeter Machine. We can only guess and gobble up the crumbs left for us like the birds in Hansel and Gretel.

Hopefully the Bruins are close to a medium trade. I’m on board with your 2020 cup win.

 

[wintersej]

Silfverberg on the third line ...ok
Silfverberg..on first or second line... What will that do? Will this move make us a true contender? No
Will this move make us win an extra series? Doubt it

Oh I disagree here strongly. Replacing an anchor with a non-anchor can be a big deal. When Carlo jumped in on Chara's right as a rookie over the string of replacement level guys from the year before it completely solidified the Bruins top 4. At best, Carlo was a #4. At best. But the ripple effect of not having a scrub there was huge.

Getting an at least average #2RW on Krejci's line would be huge.

Since the 2016-17 season (inclusive) Silf has 52 goals in 196 games. Looking at other right shot RW, that goals per game pace (0.27) is right between Blake Wheeler, Marner, Anderson (0.28), Eberle (0.27), and Justin Williams and Toffoli (0.25). And he is good on D. TOTALLY a viable pickup.

The thing is, there are a LOT of viable pickups for Boston. It's a poker game right now, though. Do you meet probably high demands this far in advance of the deadline? Do you wait until closer and hope the supply/demand allows you to give up less?

I'd MUCH rather get a guy with another year of term to allow the Senyshyn, Donato, Bjork group to develop a minute, but Silf would make a difference for sure.

 

[wintersej]

There’s a whole bunch of silliness in this thread

Isn't that what this thread is for? That and GDT. Actually... all the threads, huh.

 

[BB88]

Oh I disagree here strongly. Replacing an anchor with a non-anchor can be a big deal. When Carlo jumped in on Chara's right as a rookie over the string of replacement level guys from the year before it completely solidified the Bruins top 4. At best, Carlo was a #4. At best. But the ripple effect of not having a scrub there was huge.

Getting an at least average #2RW on Krejci's line would be huge.

Since the 2016-17 season (inclusive) Silf has 52 goals in 196 games. Looking at other right shot RW, that goals per game pace (0.27) is right between Blake Wheeler, Marner, Anderson (0.28), Eberle (0.27), and Justin Williams and Toffoli (0.25). And he is good on D. TOTALLY a viable pickup.

The thing is, there are a LOT of viable pickups for Boston. It's a poker game right now, though. Do you meet probably high demands this far in advance of the deadline? Do you wait until closer and hope the supply/demand allows you to give up less?

I'd MUCH rather get a guy with another year of term to allow the Senyshyn, Donato, Bjork group to develop a minute, but Silf would make a difference for sure.

My big point with Silf would be that you could potentially drop Pasta to 2nd line, and have him as the driver, Mr highlight from the 2nd line, giving you hopefully 2 high end offensive lines.

If my memory isn't failing me completely he could click real well with Marchand& Bergeron.

So again it's not as much as adding Silf to 2nd line to get it going but giving you the opportunity to free up Pasta to drive that line.
Which would be a massive addition to 2nd line.

Or you keep Silf on the 2nd line and ease up defensive responsibility from Bergeron even more.

 

[Fenian24]

XM morning show mentioned Voracek my be available. They doubt Teresenko is available from STL but Schenn and most of the D is. Kings got a lot of heat for standing pat as did the Ducks. They expect both teams to be active at deadline but no new names mentioned

 

[The don godfather]

Donny must do the following . Do not trade blue chips vak stud senyshyn lauzon Federic donato . Secondly no giving up 1 st round picks. Only grez zboril danton Bjork on the table to get major target. If it doesn't materialize go get a cheap rental and plug in and have faith on our great D and goaltending to ride us to cup. If it doesn't happen we can insert our blue chips next year and watch them grow.

 

[Gordoff]

Bang On.
"How do like me Now"

Always wondered this myself. It sure couldn't have helped,one hell of a first impression.

It would be like the Bruins trading Vaak or Lauzon to the Kings and then they flip him to the Leafs or Habs.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^EXACTLY!! The Kings are probably waiting in the bushes to give Donnie a dose of what he dealt them.

 

[CellyHard]

I like Silf and would welcome him here.

It is beyond puzzling that Cehlarik hasn’t earned an opportunity in the top 6.

But even if he does and produces, I don’t think you can really rely on him due to health issues...even if he’s been unlucky.

 

[Ratty]

I like Silf and would welcome him here.

It is beyond puzzling that Cehlarik hasn’t earned an opportunity in the top 6.

But even if he does and produces, I don’t think you can really rely on him due to health issues...even if he’s been unlucky.

Agree on Cehlarik. But what are his health issues? Something congenital? Or, like Bjork and McAvoy, as you say, unlucky.

 

[Fenian24]

Donny must do the following . Do not trade blue chips vak stud senyshyn lauzon Federic donato . Secondly no giving up 1 st round picks. Only grez zboril danton Bjork on the table to get major target. If it doesn't materialize go get a cheap rental and plug in and have faith on our great D and goaltending to ride us to cup. If it doesn't happen we can insert our blue chips next year and watch them grow.

How did inserting the "blue chips" work this year?

 

[Mainehockey33]

XM morning show mentioned Voracek my be available. They doubt Teresenko is available from STL but Schenn and most of the D is. Kings got a lot of heat for standing pat as did the Ducks. They expect both teams to be active at deadline but no new names mentioned

If the retained salary and we could move some salary in the trade, I’d love Voracek on Krejci’s line. Can’t see it happening without moving Krug because they’re not taking Backes.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I’d include the 1st in a Voracek trade if they eat salary.

 

[Corvus Corax]

I personally would have zero interest in names like Simmonds, Carter, Lucic, Keith, or any player over 30 with term left. I feel like that's an easy way to turn into a quick cap nightmare situation.
I also think some of the wishful thinking on names like Tarasenko, Hall, Palmieri, Stone, etc will stay as wishful thinking.

I feel like some of the reasonable targets include:
Anaheim- Jakob Silfverberg(3.75 ufa)
New York R- Mats Zucarrello(4.5 ufa)
New Jersey- Brian Boyle(2.5 ufa),
Detroit- Gustav Nyquist(4.75 ufa)
Chicago- Brandon Saad(6.75 until the end of 20-21),
St. Louis- Colton Parayko(Cap hit of 5.5 until end of 21-22. I would like him in a hockey trade, but unlikely target), Brayden Schenn(5.125 till end of next season),
Ottawa- Ryan Dzingel(1.8 ufa)
Vancouver- Alex Edler(5 ufa),
Los Angeles- Tyler Toffoli(4.6 to end of 19-20), Jake Muzzin(4.0 to end of 19-20). If they would entertain reasonable deals for these two, I would have interest, otherwise frig off LA.

Perhaps more teams will start to drop off soon and be open for negotions, but for the time being this is what i see.
I do not think Backes is being moved, nor Krug. I think it will most likely be a couple young players and 2nd,3rd,4th picks, so I am keeping my expectations reasonably tempered.

 

[CellyHard]

Agree on Cehlarik. But what are his health issues? Something congenital? Or, like Bjork and McAvoy, as you say, unlucky.

Worded that the wrong way.

He’s either been Bjork and McAvoy unlucky or maybe just a injury prone player.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

My big point with Silf would be that you could potentially drop Pasta to 2nd line, and have him as the driver, Mr highlight from the 2nd line, giving you hopefully 2 high end offensive lines.

If my memory isn't failing me completely he could click real well with Marchand& Bergeron.

So again it's not as much as adding Silf to 2nd line to get it going but giving you the opportunity to free up Pasta to drive that line.
Which would be a massive addition to 2nd line.

Or you keep Silf on the 2nd line and ease up defensive responsibility from Bergeron even more.

But they could do right now that without making an addition:

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Heinen - Krejci - Pastrnak

Those are two lines that should work plenty well. They just would destroy the third unit which appears to be clicking.

 

[TCB]

But they could do right now that without making an addition:

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Heinen - Krejci - Pastrnak

Those are two lines that should work plenty well. They just would destroy the third unit which appears to be clicking.

OR

DeBrusk - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Marchand - Krejci - Senyshyn/Cehlarik