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[GlenFeatherstone]

Trade nobody!
Trade everybody!

Everybody panic!!!!!

 

[PlayMakers]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

Donato-New Guy-Backes/Nordstrom/Cehlarik

 

[ON3M4N]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

Donato - Trade - JFK

^could be one option. Or they move JFK to #2RW (not sure that's smart) and have Backes play #3RW.

 

[neelynugs]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

how do you see it?

looking at the team now, you can easily push out JFK, acciari and cave. and you're saying if heinen goes in a deal.
are we getting a RW too? the answer has to be yes to that:

marchand/bergeron/pastrnak
debrusk/krejci/trade for RW
donato/trade for C/backes
nordstrom/kuraly/wagner
acciari
cave/JFK

 

[ON3M4N]

I wasn't much of an Anderson fan, but I'm starting to come around on him. I really think we need a RS RW, we have so many LS right now. Since 2016, Anderson ranks 13th among right shot C/RW's in ES G/GP.

Here are the top 20 C/RW right shots ranked from highest ESG/GP to lowest.

Player​	EVG​	ESG/GP​
Rickard Rakell	58	0.32
Patrik Laine	64	0.32
Cam Atkinson	59	0.31
Brock Boeser	32	0.31
Mark Scheifele	55	0.30
Nathan MacKinnon	59	0.30
David Pastrnak	59	0.29
Alex DeBrincat	37	0.29
Mark Stone	50	0.29
Jack Eichel	47	0.28
Brayden Point	53	0.27
Jon Marchessault	53	0.27
Josh Anderson	48	0.26
Joe Pavelski	53	0.25
Tyler Seguin	52	0.25
T.J. Oshie	43	0.25
Brendan Gallagher	45	0.24
Ondrej Kase	34	0.23
Kyle Palmieri	43	0.23
Tyler Johnson	44	0.23

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[pkunit]

I'm a big splash kinda guy. Horvat, Kopitar, Benn etc is what we need to win in this moment.

Aim high or just keep the prospects and picks!

 

[Fenian24]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

Better

 

[Pia8988]

I believe Krug likely signs a multi year deal here after this contract expires

I think he does as well. I also think the Bruins front office and coaches think a lot higher of him than a lot of HFBruins.

 

[TwineTickler]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

Depends what "center" it is. I really think 2nd line RW is what they need more. So if they get Schenn I wouldn't be surprised if they put him up with Krech and Debrusk.

March-Berg-Pasta
JD-DK-Schenn
Nordy-JFK-Donato
Kuraly-Acciari-Wagner
Backes

When healthy that's what I'd roll with. Backes comes in when JFK and Donato slip and need a night or two upstairs.

 

[PlayMakers]

how do you see it?

Honestly, I'm not sure. I think Heinen drives the 3rd line so I don't love the idea of trading him. I guess it all depends on what we get back but that brings me back to the question of what the line looks like without Heinen, because that changes what kind of center I look for...

If the line is Donato - NewGuy - JFK, like @OneManIsNoMan suggests, then I think you need to place a premium on size/tenacity.

If the line is Donato - NewGuy - Backes, then I think offense would be the most important quality.

If I had to pick, I think I'd lean towards the line with Backes on it but that could change if he goes back to playing like he did at the start of the year. We also haven't seen Backes and Donato together so there's no guarantee they click.

 

[TwineTickler]

I wasn't much of an Anderson fan, but I'm starting to come around on him. I really think we need a RS RW, we have so many LS right now. Since 2016, Anderson ranks 13th among right shot C/RW's in ES G/GP.

Here are the top 20 C/RW right shots ranked from highest ESG/GP to lowest.

Player​	EVG​	ESG/GP​
Rickard Rakell	58	0.32
Patrik Laine	64	0.32
Cam Atkinson	59	0.31
Brock Boeser	32	0.31
Mark Scheifele	55	0.30
Nathan MacKinnon	59	0.30
David Pastrnak	59	0.29
Alex DeBrincat	37	0.29
Mark Stone	50	0.29
Jack Eichel	47	0.28
Brayden Point	53	0.27
Jon Marchessault	53	0.27
Josh Anderson	48	0.26
Joe Pavelski	53	0.25
Tyler Seguin	52	0.25
T.J. Oshie	43	0.25
Brendan Gallagher	45	0.24
Ondrej Kase	34	0.23
Kyle Palmieri	43	0.23
Tyler Johnson	44	0.23

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'm a huge Anderson fan.... would fully endorse adding him. Not sure CBJ is looking to move him though

 

[TwineTickler]

how do you see it?

looking at the team now, you can easily push out JFK, acciari and cave. and you're saying if heinen goes in a deal.
are we getting a RW too? the answer has to be yes to that:

marchand/bergeron/pastrnak
debrusk/krejci/trade for RW
donato/trade for C/backes
nordstrom/kuraly/wagner
acciari
cave/JFK

If we add a C and a RW... I agree with this. Except I may have Backes ride the pine and bump Nordy up and leave the 4th line intact as is. They are a pretty good 4th line right now.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

I'm a huge Anderson fan.... would fully endorse adding him. Not sure CBJ is looking to move him though

Columbus likely has more pressing issues ie Bobrovsky and that whole sidebar

 

[TwineTickler]

My pipe dream/hope is Schenn and Ferland. I'd roll the dice on Ferland even though he's a UFA. Not sure what it would take to extend him.... but I'm a big fan of the player (has 3 points tonight). Can slide up or down the lineup. Would be a fan favorite.

March-Bergy-Pasta
Ferland-DK-JD
Donato-Schenn-Nordy
Kuraly-Acciari-Wagner
Backes

That's a lineup that could be dangerous. We add size/speed/toughness. JFK can always go to 3C if you want to bump up Schenn and drop down Ferland.

 

[ON3M4N]

Honestly, I'm not sure. I think Heinen drives the 3rd line so I don't love the idea of trading him. I guess it all depends on what we get back but that brings me back to the question of what the line looks like without Heinen, because that changes what kind of center I look for...

If the line is Donato - NewGuy - JFK, like @OneManIsNoMan suggests, then I think you need to place a premium on size/tenacity.

If the line is Donato - NewGuy - Backes, then I think offense would be the most important quality.

If I had to pick, I think I'd lean towards the line with Backes on it but that could change if he goes back to playing like he did at the start of the year. We also haven't seen Backes and Donato together so there's no guarantee they click.

If it's Donato/JFK, I think a guy like Schenn is what you're looking for. Someone who can generate offense, but also play a 200ft game and set the tempo for the line.

If it's Donato/Backes I really don't know who you target. Would Duchene be a guy you look at? Would it be waste having him on the 3rd line? Would OTT even trade him to Boston?

 

[ON3M4N]

I'm a huge Anderson fan.... would fully endorse adding him. Not sure CBJ is looking to move him though

You never know. They had issues signing him last year and he's going to be an RFA again after next season, so who knows if they want to deal with that again.

 

[BostonBob]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

Depending on the Center I'd say better.

EDIT: Dammit - Fenian24 beat me to it.

 

[PlayMakers]

If it's Donato/JFK, I think a guy like Schenn is what you're looking for. Someone who can generate offense, but also play a 200ft game and set the tempo for the line.

If it's Donato/Backes I really don't know who you target. Would Duchene be a guy you look at? Would it be waste having him on the 3rd line? Would OTT even trade him to Boston?

I feel like Duchene would be too expensive for the role, but there are some low rent offensive guys, like Marcus Johansson.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Let's say the Bruins trade Heinen and add a center. What does the 3rd line look like?

This is a good question, Bill... Simple but outlines an issue.

I’d say if the Bruins ONLY get a C, that Heinen has to stay. I don’t like Backes, Nordstrom, whomever in that role.

Which also would mean that one/two of Backes, Kuraly, Wagner, Acciai, JFK, or Nordstrom would have to go.

 

[Pia8988]

This is a good question, Bill... Simple but outlines an issue.

I’d say if the Bruins ONLY get a C, that Heinen has to stay. I don’t like Backes, Nordstrom, whomever in that role.

Which also would mean that one/two of Backes, Kuraly, Wagner, Acciai, JFK, or Nordstrom would have to go.

If they get a 3c. I have no issue with JFK going back to Providence and Acciari going literally anywhere else.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

If they get a 3c. I have no issue with JFK going back to Providence and Acciari going literally anywhere else.

You and I both.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I want jeff carter more than Brayden schenn and I want brandon saed less

none of them are worth paying a price that costs us too much... and to be honest theres bad cap ramifications to all of them

I feel the easiest one to make fit is jeff carter assuming he doesn't just take his puck and go home. whatever the cost to acquire {less than 2 first round picks} could be recouped when we move him on

the carter contract becomes more and more attracted to a non-cap ceiling team in the next year or two {could we package him AND backes to the same team???}

I don't know what LA wants for carter and I don't know if carter can be convinced to come here and play hard for us but im going to assume carter would accept a trade here

zboril and a first? Bjork and a first?

could we get LA to agree to a conditional deal.. the first is a second unless carter scores at least 10 goals for us???

or LA eats 1/2 the contract?

I never get the trades right... and rarely get the guy right... but if im king of the world carter is my first target before schenn or saed

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I want jeff carter more than Brayden schenn and I want brandon saed less

none of them are worth paying a price that costs us too much... and to be honest theres bad cap ramifications to all of them

I feel the easiest one to make fit is jeff carter assuming he doesn't just take his puck and go home. whatever the cost to acquire {less than 2 first round picks} could be recouped when we move him on

the carter contract becomes more and more attracted to a non-cap ceiling team in the next year or two {could we package him AND backes to the same team???}

I don't know what LA wants for carter and I don't know if carter can be convinced to come here and play hard for us but im going to assume carter would accept a trade here

zboril and a first? Bjork and a first?

could we get LA to agree to a conditional deal.. the first is a second unless carter scores at least 10 goals for us???

or LA eats 1/2 the contract?

I never get the trades right... and rarely get the guy right... but if im king of the world carter is my first target before schenn or saed

You keep mentioning that the Bruins could acquire assets if they needed to dump Carter’s cap hit later.

It actually costs assets to do that.