Boston Bruins All Bruins Trade Proposals: Off-Season II

[Gordon Lightfoot]

The new expansion draft rules are designed to make this not be the case. I don’t expect Seattle to make a cup run year 1, GMs will be much more prepared after the fleecing that took place, but I do think they’ll be closer to Vegas than they are the historic norm of sucking for 10 years.

I suppose that's good for the league, overall.

 

[NeelyDan]

Frederic and a 1st would be an easy pill to swallow. I’d rather keep Lauzon and Vaakanainen because I think they could both be top 4 LD for a long time.

Man, you and I are usually fairly aligned but that feels too steep for me.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Man, you and I are usually fairly aligned but that feels too steep for me.

Maybe I shouldn’t be basing it all on their call ups last season, but other than the fight Frederic wasn’t impressive. Vaakanainen and Lauzon I believe could both be top 4 D and I’d rather keep them. There’s still Zboril but I doubt he has the value.

I think it’s important we keep some size on LD with Chara probably playing his last season.

 

[maxl7]

I disagree. Too much gamble in Gusev. He is small on frame and has not yet played on NA ice. He was good in the Olympics however netting 12pts in 6 games.
How does Gusev do along the boards and on the forecheck? How is his defensive play? These things matter big to SweeNeely.

They have plenty of defensive guys who are good along the boards. They need more skill in their top six. Gusev would be great with Krejci. Also, it's 2019. Who cares about size? If someone can play, they can play. Gusev torched the KHL and would absolutely be worth the risk.

Kreider is a great player, but he's not gonna be cheap next year and is also another left handed player. Gusev has played mostly left wing, but he's a right shot.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Maybe I shouldn’t be basing it all on their call ups last season, but other than the fight Frederic wasn’t impressive. Vaakanainen and Lauzon I believe could both be top 4 D and I’d rather keep them. There’s still Zboril but I doubt he has the value.

I think it’s important we keep some size on LD with Chara probably playing his last season.

Frederick needed more seasoning and got it. I think he makes a push this training camp and will make things competative for the 3rd line spot. IMO he needs another year before he makes a serious push to be on the 3rd line. I like Lauzon and want to keep him, but we have Vaak who Sweeney was apparently unwilling to consider as an offer for Stone(unconfirmed) and has not been a part of ANY rumors. We can AFFORD to move Lauzon who is our best trade prospect with JFK behind him. Zboril I think has no value anymore as he has underacheived. He would be a throw in of any deal, but not a key piece.

NY wants our prospects, They will ask for Vaak, Lauzon, Frederick, JFK and Studnicka. Vaak and Stud are untouchable IMO, Frederick and Lauzon are blue chip prospects and would be a hard price to pay for Kreider(etc). JFK is losing value after not meeting expectations last year(No, I am not giving up on the kids, dont come after me for that). Zboril and Senyshyn are worth more to us than they are in a trade IMO.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

They have plenty of defensive guys who are good along the boards. They need more skill in their top six. Gusev would be great with Krejci. Also, it's 2019. Who cares about size? If someone can play, they can play. Gusev torched the KHL and would absolutely be worth the risk.

Your not gonna get a whole lot of support for that view here. Krejci needs a finisher with some frame and whole can compete along the boards as well. Cant be a liability defensively, SweeNeely wont stand for that.

Kreider is a great player, but he's not gonna be cheap next year and is also another left handed player. Gusev has played mostly left wing, but he's a right shot.

Watch the Kreider goal video, he has NO problem shooting from his off side(beauty of a one timer from the right circle) and he likes to cut across the middle. He is a scoring threat with some size and speed.
He is perfect on paper to play with Krejci.

Pull the trigger for anyone not named Studnick and Vaak from Providence.

 

[bme44]

I can not see the Bruins making any trades before McAvoy and Carlo are signed and for how long and at what price. Signing these two has to be the#1 priority. If cap space is a need I could see Heinen and a d or a D prospect moved. Moving Backes, is a beast all it's own not seeing that happening before it is determined what his health status is

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

I can not see the Bruins making any trades before McAvoy and Carlo are signed and for how long and at what price. Signing these two has to be the#1 priority. If cap space is a need I could see Heinen and a d or a D prospect moved. Moving Backes, is a beast all it's own not seeing that happening before it is determined what his health status is

If you can get a guy like Kreider you pull the trigger before Gorton has time to rethink it. Sweeney has several months to fix the cap situation. If Sweeney knows Backes may go LTIR then he has no issues going for it.

 

[The National]

Krug for Mantha

 

[ODAAT]

I can not see the Bruins making any trades before McAvoy and Carlo are signed and for how long and at what price. Signing these two has to be the#1 priority. If cap space is a need I could see Heinen and a d or a D prospect moved. Moving Backes, is a beast all it's own not seeing that happening before it is determined what his health status is

even after signing those two, plus Heinen, in order to make moves, the B`s would have to relieve themselves of the Backes and IMO, the Miller contract which won`t be easy, Miller hasn`t played in forever and Backes showed that this game is simply too quick for him

 

[The National]

even after signing those two, plus Heinen, in order to make moves, the B`s would have to relieve themselves of the Backes and IMO, the Miller contract which won`t be easy, Miller hasn`t played in forever and Backes showed that this game is simply too quick for him

Not sure there’s anyway we can relieve ourselves from Backes before we need to sign those guys. We won’t buy him out & I’d be surprised if he goes in a trade unless he’s attached to prospects with 50% retained. Only hope is he retires and leaves money on the table, or we bury him.

I think Miller’s contract is movable, similar to the McQuaid trade, a 4th & 7th conditional if Miller can make it thru 50 games.

Someone’s contract needs to move before we can sign McAvoy, Carlo and Heinen. I don’t see how we can afford them with our current cap.

 

[ODAAT]

Not sure there’s anyway we can relieve ourselves from Backes before we need to sign those guys. We won’t buy him out & I’d be surprised if he goes in a trade unless he’s attached to prospects with 50% retained. Only hope is he retires and leaves money on the table, or we bury him.

I think Miller’s contract is movable, similar to the McQuaid trade, a 4th & 7th conditional if Miller can make it thru 50 games.

Someone’s contract needs to move before we can sign McAvoy, Carlo and Heinen. I don’t see how we can afford them with our current cap.

that`s a huge "if" with Miller in regards to him playing 50 games. Love the guy, but he` s simply injury prone and has been for years

 

[bme44]

even after signing those two, plus Heinen, in order to make moves, the B`s would have to relieve themselves of the Backes and IMO, the Miller contract which won`t be easy, Miller hasn`t played in forever and Backes showed that this game is simply too quick for him

I do not disagree with you but,timing is everything in any trade you make, not sure this is the time for moving either Backes or Miller. At present I think it is not. Both players health being in question ,makes me feel it is very unrealistic to think you can trade either at present. If either was to be traded it would cost you. Miller in particular my be able to be traded for a small return in the future . I any trade a GM makes. He should consider the impact over the next five years .

 

[YouTakeTheVan]

It is interesting that every(?) recent UFA signing for one way contracts has been for multiple years, or multiple years of contractual control - Nordy, Wager, Moore, Halak, Lindstrom, Kampfer, Ritchie (RFA after this year). The resulting logjam for the last few roster spots is a bit perplexing but we have spare parts to trade if it comes to that, pick up a few extra picks to use at the deadline, that sort of thing.

Bruins will have about $16 M to sign McAvoy Carlo Heinen & maybe Johansson on a 3 yr deal

Still lots of money out there from Habs/Isles/Avs/... itching to be spent, with a miserable UFA pool remaining. I have a hard time seeing Johansson or Ferland signing a reasonable deal in those circumstances.

I would be happy to simply get an upgrade to Peter Cehlarik to compete with Bjork/Senyshyn -- shouldn't be super expensive.

 

[maxl7]

Your not gonna get a whole lot of support for that view here. Krejci needs a finisher with some frame and whole can compete along the boards as well. Cant be a liability defensively, SweeNeely wont stand for that.

We have no idea if Gusev is a defensive liability or not. In fact, that just seems like a label you're applying to him because he knows how to score. And ignoring the overemphasis on size may not be popular around here but HFBoards isn't exactly renowned for its progressive, forward-thinking approaches to the game.

Krejci just needs a good player by his side. Trying to recreate the Lucic and Horton situation or trying to Galaxy Brain what "he needs" is over complicating things. Give him someone who can make plays and score. And for the record, I'm not even saying that Gusev is The Guy, I was just saying he should interest the Bruins far more than Kreider given their contract situations and team needs.

Watch the Kreider goal video, he has NO problem shooting from his off side(beauty of a one timer from the right circle) and he likes to cut across the middle. He is a scoring threat with some size and speed.
He is perfect on paper to play with Krejci.

Pull the trigger for anyone not named Studnick and Vaak from Providence.

Again, Kreider is a great player. But liking to shoot from his off side and cutting across the middle is vastly different than reading the game, making and receiving passes, etc. on your off side. Kreider very well may excel at RW, but I don't think he's ever been tried at it for any length of time so slotting him there is not without it's own risks.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

We have no idea if Gusev is a defensive liability or not. In fact, that just seems like a label you're applying to him because he knows how to score. And ignoring the overemphasis on size may not be popular around here but HFBoards isn't exactly renowned for its progressive, forward-thinking approaches to the game.

Krejci just needs a good player by his side. Trying to recreate the Lucic and Horton situation or trying to Galaxy Brain what "he needs" is over complicating things. Give him someone who can make plays and score. And for the record, I'm not even saying that Gusev is The Guy, I was just saying he should interest the Bruins far more than Kreider given their contract situations and team needs.



Again, Kreider is a great player. But liking to shoot from his off side and cutting across the middle is vastly different than reading the game, making and receiving passes, etc. on your off side. Kreider very well may excel at RW, but I don't think he's ever been tried at it for any length of time so slotting him there is not without it's own risks.

Gusev has never player NA hockey and typically players from the KHL who come over to the NHL have defensive trouble more often than not. To label him bad offensively is irresponsible, but to question his readiness for NHL duty is not.
After getting manhandled in the final I am not sure Gusev would be either what we need atm or a fan favorite. You'll have to do more convincing than "He is a good scorer in the KHL"

Gusev would be easier to acquire than Kreider, but the cost per Risk assesmenton Gusev is not what a team who is looking to return to the finals next season should be considering, IMO.

I have no problem slotting Kreider in at LW and trying out DeBrusk/Kuhlman/Ritchie on the RW. Kreider is what this team needs badly and if you have a legitimate chance of adding him you do so and worry about the lines in training camp.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Gusev has never player NA hockey and typically players from the KHL who come over to the NHL have defensive trouble more often than not. To label him bad offensively is irresponsible, but to question his readiness for NHL duty is not.
After getting manhandled in the final I am not sure Gusev would be either what we need atm or a fan favorite. You'll have to do more convincing than "He is a good scorer in the KHL"

Gusev would be easier to acquire than Kreider, but the cost per Risk assesmenton Gusev is not what a team who is looking to return to the finals next season should be considering, IMO.

I have no problem slotting Kreider in at LW and trying out DeBrusk/Kuhlman/Ritchie on the RW. Kreider is what this team needs badly and if you have a legitimate chance of adding him you do so and worry about the lines in training camp.

 

[sarge88]

Frederic and a 1st would be an easy pill to swallow. I’d rather keep Lauzon and Vaakanainen because I think they could both be top 4 LD for a long time.

I’d rather deal from the back end. Not Vaakanainen though.

I do like Lauzon but to me they can’t afford to give up Frederick as he’s one of their few top prospects up front, so Lauzon IMO is one of the 1 or 2 next most marketable commodities.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I’d rather deal from the back end. Not Vaakanainen though.

I do like Lauzon but to me they can’t afford to give up Frederick as he’s one of their few top prospects up front, so Lauzon IMO is one of the 1 or 2 next most marketable commodities.

I think Lauzon makes a lot of sense and I’d still do the trade, but I’d hate to lose him.

 

[neelynugs]

We have no idea if Gusev is a defensive liability or not. In fact, that just seems like a label you're applying to him because he knows how to score. And ignoring the overemphasis on size may not be popular around here but HFBoards isn't exactly renowned for its progressive, forward-thinking approaches to the game.

Krejci just needs a good player by his side. Trying to recreate the Lucic and Horton situation or trying to Galaxy Brain what "he needs" is over complicating things. Give him someone who can make plays and score. And for the record, I'm not even saying that Gusev is The Guy, I was just saying he should interest the Bruins far more than Kreider given their contract situations and team needs.
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i love gusev as a player. he has a lot of panarin qualities in his game. if you trade for him you're getting him
for likely 2 years and then he goes off to UFA to cash in. the biggest issue i'd have with gusev is that he (like
a lot of russian wingers) is a right shot that usually plays the left side (from what i've seen). he's legit though.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Krug for Mantha

or lets keep the higher scoring player

 

[PlayMakers]

Next season is one thing, but the off season next year and the year after is a major issue. Based on what Acciari was paid by Florida, everyone of these guys goes to free agency and gets paid at least half 1 million more than what the Bruins offer. Coyle is as good as Kevin Hayes IMO. He just locked up 7 Million a year for 7 years. Coyle at least gets a huge 6 year offer from someone. Krug can get 8 million a year tines 7 on the open market easy with his offense. The Bs wont pay him 56 million.

Nordstrom and Wagner both get 2 million a year each for 3 or 4 years. Nordy for his skating and PK, Wagner for his physicality and grit and ability to chip in offensively in a league that just watched a playoffs that has swung the league back towards guys like him. They make up one of the top 4th lines in hockey and have been numerous times to the playoffs.

Next year UFA's
Krug
Coyle
Wagner
Nordstrom

The year after Kuraly walks and gets at least a huge raise as a UFA, unless the Bs pony up a 4 year 4 million dollar extension for him, he is a stud and will be highly sought after. Krejci may come back at a discount but probably gets a Pavelski like deal from someone at 8 mil a year for 3 years. I wouldn't pay that. Tuuka is also a UFA that year and if he continues to play like he has. He'll get 9-10 mil from someone for 3 years.

All this to say this year us critical to the future of this franchise and free agents get ridiculously over paid on July 1.

7 players in the next two years with the ability to walk like Acciari, Schaller and Nash all did for big raises. If this season at all goes south, the trade deadline should be used to move some or all of these guys to gain assets and cap space knowing they wont be able to afford any of them. The bigger risk is they have another great year and all of them stay in Boston through the end, and the Bs get nothing when they all test free agency, walk and get paid by other teams. Time to wheel and deal Don.

To say nothing of the RFA's. That's why this off-season and this upcoming season are so important. It really feels like this is the last kick at the can for this group. Next summer, they've only got $20m to spend on 10 players; Krug, DeBrusk, Gryz among others, and some tough decisions will have to be made...

I think the biggest decision is going to be whether to keep a 34 year old Krejci or sign a 28 year old Coyle? You've got Studnicka and Frederic knocking and they'll be desperate for money so I don't think they'll choose to keep both.

 

[McGarnagle]

How hard exactly is it to convert a guy from LW to RW? Is it that some guys can do it easily and others would struggle?

It seems like everyone on the market is a LW, but we have Marchand and Debrusk already. Kreider on that Krejci line would be gangbusters, but would he or Debrusk be able to play RW without hindering their productivity?

 

[DKH]

To say nothing of the RFA's. That's why this off-season and this upcoming season are so important. It really feels like this is the last kick at the can for this group. Next summer, they've only got $20m to spend on 10 players; Krug, DeBrusk, Gryz among others, and some tough decisions will have to be made...

I think the biggest decision is going to be whether to keep a 34 year old Krejci or sign a 28 year old Coyle? You've got Studnicka and Frederic knocking and they'll be desperate for money so I don't think they'll choose to keep both.

Put me down Backes never plays another game and his 6 M cap hit goes on LTI

 

[DKH]

The Kreider stuff I believe

Wonder what the package is