Proposal: All Bruins Trade Proposals IV

[Ratty]

There hasn't been and as somebody who is anything but a defender of Sweeney I don't think he has done badly when trading with the Rangers. For some reason some people still think Spooner was never given a fair chance or the pick was more valuable than Nash, who got injured, but was looking like he was going to be a very nice fit on the second line.

And Spooner is now off to Switzerland to practice his yodeling.

 

[PlayMakers]

Personally, I thought Sweeney overpaid for Nash.

I thought Spooner and Lindgren were the cost to take on Beleskey. I know Spooner has amounted to nothing but he was a young player with a 50 point season under his belt, he might not have been worth much but he wasn't worth nothing at the time. And Lindgren was a solid prospect who's still in the mix for them.

Take away all the noise and it boiled down to a 1st for Nash, a guy who was in the midst of his third 30 point season. I know he was a big name but he hadn't played like it for years, was often injured and was never a good playoff performer.

Would anyone have been ok with a 1st for Wayne Simmonds this year? He and Nash had almost identical numbers at the time they were dealt. Simmonds was 5 years younger, had 46 points the year before and was only 2 years removed from a 30 goal season. It had been 4 years since Nash topped 40 points.

I don't know. I don't like to beat Sweeney up for it because I applaud the thinking, he did what he had to do to get the player he wanted, but I do think he paid more than the player was worth at the time.

 

[Estlin]

Personally, I thought Sweeney overpaid for Nash.

I thought Spooner and Lindgren were the cost to take on Beleskey. I know Spooner has amounted to nothing but he was a young player with a 50 point season under his belt, he might not have been worth much but he wasn't worth nothing at the time. And Lindgren was a solid prospect who's still in the mix for them.

Take away all the noise and it boiled down to a 1st for Nash, a guy who was in the midst of his third 30 point season. I know he was a big name but he hadn't played like it for years, was often injured and was never a good playoff performer.

Would anyone have been ok with a 1st for Wayne Simmonds this year? He and Nash had almost identical numbers at the time they were dealt. Simmonds was 5 years younger, had 46 points the year before and was only 2 years removed from a 30 goal season. It had been 4 years since Nash topped 40 points.

I don't know. I don't like to beat Sweeney up for it because I applaud the thinking, he did what he had to do to get the player he wanted, but I do think he paid more than the player was worth at the time.

I agree with you. I thought at the time that Sweeney overpaid, and I still feel that way. It wasn't a fleecing by Gorton, but Sweeney paid too much for a player (Nash) who was notoriously a poor playoff performer.

 

[LouJersey]

I still like the Nash pick up. You can't predict concussions I guess and they don't beat Toronto wo him IMO.

 

[Blowfish]

I still like the Nash pick up. You can't predict concussions I guess and they don't beat Toronto wo him IMO.

His stats trend was abysmal. Poor playoff performer, declining overall stats, health concerns .... etc. It was a terrible trade. Add in the fact the bruins gave up a first and retained a portion of Beleskys salary. Other options were available that could have been less costly and better for the team.

I also liked what I saw from Lindgren. He was unbelievable at the world juniors and looked to be good in the NHL.

This trade still irks me big time.

Krejci himself said he was playing extremely well with spooner And Debrusk at his side. I feel for the spooner kid.

 

[neelynugs]

I still like the Nash pick up. You can't predict concussions I guess and they don't beat Toronto wo him IMO.

agree, although i would've preferred they spent more for a guy who had some term left. a 1st+ usually gets you
a pretty good player with term. but i was one of the few nash fans so not a big deal.

 

[Dr Hook]

If you are a making a deadline deal for a playoff push/run, you overpay. Teams that are sellers know it, prices are high, like UFA scrambles on July 1. Nash was a swing and a miss but it was a good attempt, he helped the team till he got hurt and it was an overpay for sure, but not a gross one.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Personally, I thought Sweeney overpaid for Nash.

I thought Spooner and Lindgren were the cost to take on Beleskey. I know Spooner has amounted to nothing but he was a young player with a 50 point season under his belt, he might not have been worth much but he wasn't worth nothing at the time. And Lindgren was a solid prospect who's still in the mix for them.

Take away all the noise and it boiled down to a 1st for Nash, a guy who was in the midst of his third 30 point season. I know he was a big name but he hadn't played like it for years, was often injured and was never a good playoff performer.

Would anyone have been ok with a 1st for Wayne Simmonds this year? He and Nash had almost identical numbers at the time they were dealt. Simmonds was 5 years younger, had 46 points the year before and was only 2 years removed from a 30 goal season. It had been 4 years since Nash topped 40 points.

I don't know. I don't like to beat Sweeney up for it because I applaud the thinking, he did what he had to do to get the player he wanted, but I do think he paid more than the player was worth at the time.

Yup. He overpaid.

But that’s not uncommon at the trade deadline and I’m happy he had the courage to do it. It was a sign he believed in his team and Nash was a great fit before that concussion.

If overpaying is what it takes to give your team the best chance at winning, I’ll support it every time.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

I didn’t like the Nash pickup because I never really liked him as a player but I had no issue with the price paid. The pieces the Bruins gave up had little to no value for them

 

[member 96824]

I make the Nash trade every year until Bergeron is in the hockey graveyard.

The McQuaid trade was good.

I’m struggling to find Gorton fleecing Sweeney

 

[Fenian24]

His stats trend was abysmal. Poor playoff performer, declining overall stats, health concerns .... etc. It was a terrible trade. Add in the fact the bruins gave up a first and retained a portion of Beleskys salary. Other options were available that could have been less costly and better for the team.

I also liked what I saw from Lindgren. He was unbelievable at the world juniors and looked to be good in the NHL.

This trade still irks me big time.

Krejci himself said he was playing extremely well with spooner And Debrusk at his side. I feel for the spooner kid.

If Spooner had an ounce of talent, in a 31 team NHL, he would have a job. He doesn't because he isn't good at hockey. You pining for Spooner to be back in Boston or the NHL is like me wanting Tyler Randell back.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Still people whining about the Nash trade. Woof.

 

[ON3M4N]

Just saying, Schnieder at 3mil per, one extra year than Backes, Wood and give up Halak who you're not going to be able to afford next year anyways.

I think it deserves consideration if Cory checks out.

If you could get Schneider for $3 million a year, I'd do it (assuming no major medical concerns).

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

If Spooner had an ounce of talent, in a 31 team NHL, he would have a job. He doesn't because he isn't good at hockey. You pining for Spooner to be back in Boston or the NHL is like me wanting Tyler Randell back.

Disagree that he doesn't have the talent. It's the head that's got him in the position he's in now.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Just saying, Schnieder at 3mil per, one extra year than Backes, Wood and give up Halak who you're not going to be able to afford next year anyways.

I think it deserves consideration if Cory checks out.

There’s also the buyout option. $2M/yr or $1M/yr. Would take either option over being stuck with Backes $6M for what is arguably the last couple of years of the window.

 

[Dr Hook]

Disagree that he doesn't have the talent. It's the head that's got him in the position he's in now.

That and his inability to play NHL level defense

 

[DKH]

Backes, Pastrnak & McAvoy to the Rangers for Trouba, Kakko, & Kreider

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Backes, Pastrnak & McAvoy to the Rangers for Trouba, Kakko, & Kreider

Confirmed with link?

 

[CDJ]

Personally, I thought Sweeney overpaid for Nash.

I thought Spooner and Lindgren were the cost to take on Beleskey. I know Spooner has amounted to nothing but he was a young player with a 50 point season under his belt, he might not have been worth much but he wasn't worth nothing at the time. And Lindgren was a solid prospect who's still in the mix for them.

Take away all the noise and it boiled down to a 1st for Nash, a guy who was in the midst of his third 30 point season. I know he was a big name but he hadn't played like it for years, was often injured and was never a good playoff performer.

Would anyone have been ok with a 1st for Wayne Simmonds this year? He and Nash had almost identical numbers at the time they were dealt. Simmonds was 5 years younger, had 46 points the year before and was only 2 years removed from a 30 goal season. It had been 4 years since Nash topped 40 points.

I don't know. I don't like to beat Sweeney up for it because I applaud the thinking, he did what he had to do to get the player he wanted, but I do think he paid more than the player was worth at the time.

Rick Nash could still skate and do things other than stand in front of the net on the PP though. There’s literally nothing good about Simmonds game anymore outside of that

 

[ODAAT]

And Spooner is now off to Switzerland to practice his yodeling.

classic, perfect for him, nice big ice surface, easy way to finish out career

 

[ODAAT]

Disagree that he doesn't have the talent. It's the head that's got him in the position he's in now.

IMO it`s the lack of heart and desire to push himself to be better in all 3 zones, he`s interested in one thing only and that`s the offensive side of things only

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

IMO it`s the lack of heart and desire to push himself to be better in all 3 zones, he`s interested in one thing only and that`s the offensive side of things only

Exactly. Could have been a very good player if he was willing to work imo

 

[Absurdity]

Backes, Pastrnak & McAvoy to the Rangers for Trouba, Kakko, & Kreider

Backes <<<<<<<<<<< Kreider
Pastrnak >> Kakko
McAvoy =?= Trouba

Bruins would also get an extra $7.1M in cap space.

 

[ODAAT]

Exactly. Could have been a very good player if he was willing to work imo

yep, had multiple chances with multiple teams and coaches, even the Oilers, a horrific team that he couldn`t stick with

 

[Eddie Munson]

Backes, Pastrnak & McAvoy to the Rangers for Trouba, Kakko, & Kreider