Alain Vigneault Named Head Coach Part 2

[SolidSnakeUS]

Has a coach ever been fired after their first season? And getting into the playoffs?

 

[Chinatown88]

FIRE HIS ASS

 

[Adam Warlock]

Im worried not winning a cup is too much in his head. He abandoned everything that got them where they were once the playoffs started.

The early goalie pulls, the bizarre challenges. Just seemed like he was over coaching.

 

[dingbathero]

Ghost had been thrusted out. He is as good as gone.

AV will be back.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Im worried not winning a cup is too much in his head. He abandoned everything that got them where they were once the playoffs started.

The early goalie pulls, the bizarre challenges. Just seemed like he was over coaching.

It wasn't over-coaching, it wasn't any form of rational coaching. It's certainly not NHL coaching.

 

[Stumble40]

Has a coach ever been fired after their first season? And getting into the playoffs?

And possibly winning the jack Adams lol

 

[Striiker]

I was wrong back when he got hired.

I compared him to Hakstol and that was unfair to Hak. AV is worse.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

And possibly winning the jack Adams lol

Trotz got let go after winning the Cup.

 

[deadhead]

Trotz got let go after winning the Cup.

Because they didn't want to pay him.

AV is fine, he was patching his way through the playoffs, just because some people declared Frost and Bunnaman ready doesn't mean they were. And Ghost didn't do enough to garner confidence in him unless you're Ghostdog.

This was never that good of a team, a lot of inexperience, and it showed in the play of TK, Sanheim and Farabee, and to some extent Myers.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Wait a season or two more and you will hate him. Then he will have ran the team into the ground and the Flyers gameplan will have been figured out like a children's book. And AV himself will claim nothing of it is his fault.

 

[Hurricane28]

Not on the AV hate train yet. Playoffs were bad. But do not, DO NOT, say Hakstol was better. That is simply not true. All this Hakstol talk is giving me PTSD.

I need a drink

 

[Ghosts Beer]

He got this team to game 7 of round 2. Too many people expect coaching to be magic dust. It’s not.

 

[wankstifier]

He got this team to game 7 of round 2. Too many people expect coaching to be magic dust. It’s not.

He was certainly there. Wouldn't say he got them there.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

He was certainly there. Wouldn't say he got them there.

First playoff series win since 2011/12. If the players could do it all by themselves, they'd have won a series in the last 8 years.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

BTW, two of those four coaches are Stanley Cup winners. And a third has been to the finals multiple times. Stop blaming coaching and acting like the players are achieving against a storm.

 

[wankstifier]

First playoff series win since 2011/12. If the players could do it all by themselves, they'd have won a series in the last 8 years.

Are you aware that the 2019-2020 playoff roster hasn't been the roster for the past 8 years?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Are you aware that the 2019-2020 playoff roster hasn't been the roster for the past 8 years?

So you admit that this team's success isn't solely driven by its highest-paid Flyers veterans?

 

[kudymen]

Are you aware that the 2019-2020 playoff roster hasn't been the roster for the past 8 years?

But we were number 1 seed maaaaaaan

 

[Bob Clarke Fan Club]

Although I'm not going to push the fire AV button, I was very disappointed in his performance throughout the playoffs. Last line change in game 7 and we got fed. I don't like Michel Thierrien enough to even learn to spell his name. He's a no-brainer for walking papers, we may not have elite offensive skill...but a sub 10% pp means the job isn't getting done. At least fire that coach, there needs to be some coaching accountability somewhere. We hear them preach enough about the players being accountable.

 

[wankstifier]

So you admit that this team's success isn't solely driven by its highest-paid Flyers veterans?

Duh, I'm not sure why you'd assume that's what I thought.

Who are you even arguing with?

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Starat327]

I desperately need the pandas today

 

[Chinatown88]

I desperately need the pandas today

Make sure you hit up Cap's Venmo.

 

[GKJ]

The reality with the coach is he’s bulletproof for 2 more years, when decisions have to be made on the older players of this team. Couturier is young enough but his next deal is $10m. Giroux and Voracek aren’t getting another coach while they are here.

The flat cap is a problem but it’s time to push some chips to the middle, especially with Hart on an ELC for one more year.

 

[Lord Defect]

First playoff series win since 2011/12. If the players could do it all by themselves, they'd have won a series in the last 8 years.

They didn’t have Hart the last 8 years. AV didn’t really coach anything per say. No time outs when Montreal took us off our game and play to their speed. Some good challenges (1?), some really bad challenges (I didn’t see the replay...).
Very poor player decisions, poor overuse of garbage players in general and overplaying them too boot.
“Frost wasn’t ready”, I’ll concede that just for arguments sake, but even unready he’s still a better player than grant or Thompson. Ghost sitting out the majority of the playoffs. Not benching Sanheim to wake him up.
The ever persistent dump and chase, but then Hayes would casually skate it on a few times a night showing it can be done.
We’re up a goal guys!, let’s all stand in front of Hart and let them rack up the shots. No we’re winning, we don’t need to play offense anymore.
Hey I know we haven’t had a power play goal in what, four hundred and seventy three attempts, let’s stay the course.

It wasn’t AV that got us to a game 7 of the second round, it was Hart.