Affiliates VIII: Cleveland Monsters and more (All Affiliate Talk Here)

[rabinsurance]

Conacher speared Brodhurst right after the final buzzer last night. He was dirty from Game 1, picking on Milano and Barach any chance he got, mostly before and after the whistle. And Gaunce must be learning from him, because he attempted a slew foot last night. As bad as he is as a d-man, he wasn't a dirty player in his 2 stints with the Monsters.

 

[Monstershockey]

Conachers act was getting old. Nice to see him sent home. The whole team played like that when they realized they were being outplayed back in game one. Andreoff was another instigator also. I like that the Monsters kept thier composure as Syracuse kept baiting them.

 

[pled]

schedule for games is 1, 3 at toronto 5, 7 in cleveland, 11 tor, 13 cle, 15 tor

 

[thebus88]

not gonna be a popular game since most of you gonna watch the jackets game but here's the lines

McInnis Dalpe Foudy
Broadhurst Barach Koroslev
Milano Letestu DeSalvo
Gallant Bittner Scott Sherwood

Cross Wade
Somerby Collins
Carlsson Simpson

Thiessen
Kiv

Cockerill, Vigneault, Stenlund sit

Bolded all where I "expected".

If no Gavrikov, give we Wade over Clendening. I saw enough in TC.

Can anybody explain the player or situation regarding Korostelev?

And/or Barach

 

[pled]

Bolded all where I "expected".

If no Gavrikov, give we Wade over Clendening. I saw enough in TC.

Can anybody explain the player or situation regarding Korostelev?

And/or Barach

not sure what your question is

 

[thebus88]

not sure what your question is

I'm not sure either. Mainly just what type of player each guy is.

Regarding Korostelev, I know we have quite a bit of depth in the AHL and there was a pretty regular rotation, and that the top 3 lines probably don't vary much in ice time, but it seems like he was scratched more often than a lot of guys and even sent to the ECHL.

I don't know about injury situations, and he is young. I just find it interesting he goes from not playing much to playing in the (very least) "middle 6" in the playoffs.

 

[Monstershockey]

Maybe Korostelev was put in for defensive purposes? I don't know but I would have perferred Stenlund over him. He lacks defensively but is a capable goal scorer which they could use. I like Barach. He is small but has speed and can put points up. He also can hit pretty good and isn't afraid to get in the middle of things. They signed him for another year so I think they are happy with his play.

 

[pled]

I'm not sure either. Mainly just what type of player each guy is.

Regarding Korostelev, I know we have quite a bit of depth in the AHL and there was a pretty regular rotation, and that the top 3 lines probably don't vary much in ice time, but it seems like he was scratched more often than a lot of guys and even sent to the ECHL.

I don't know about injury situations, and he is young. I just find it interesting he goes from not playing much to playing in the (very least) "middle 6" in the playoffs.

I think its just a madden thing he really isn't nothing special like monstershockey said he just roll in with other player and the line aren't that meaning full he doesn't play as much as the rest of the top9.

Madden doesn't like player who lack defense responsibility like stenlund.

Barach is amazing. I don't know if he will cap at ahl star. he's signed with the monster and I don't think another nhl team gonna give him a contract right away so he should be at columbus camp and hopefully impress

the defense line are that way mostly because he doesn't want to break the pair. Wade/Cockerill/Clendening always swap to play with Cross while the others stay together

Wade is playing cause everyone else is injured. they did sign 3 pto but they didn't impress more than him I guess

 

[The Jones Zone]

Was Foudy playing wing in the OHL?

I was under the impression He was playing strictly center

 

[pled]

Was Foudy playing wing in the OHL?

I was under the impression He was playing strictly center

center rarely start center in pro hockey.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

Practice notes including injury report

Tony Brown's Playoff Notebook (4.27.19)

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Bolded all where I "expected".

If no Gavrikov, give we Wade over Clendening. I saw enough in TC.

Can anybody explain the player or situation regarding Korostelev?

And/or Barach

The same Justin Wade that has played the whole season in the ECHL aside from 10 games? The same Wade with 7 points total this season out of the two leagues? I hope you mean strictly for the AHL team, because if you mean over Clendening for the NHL team... are you alright?

 

[thebus88]

The same Justin Wade that has played the whole season in the ECHL aside from 10 games? The same Wade with 7 points total this season out of the two leagues? I hope you mean strictly for the AHL team, because if you mean over Clendening for the NHL team... are you alright?

Well, going by the "depth chart", him in Columbus is more likely than Stenlund in Columbus.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Well, going by the "depth chart", him in Columbus is more likely than Stenlund in Columbus.

Along these lines, what's the deal with Stenlund? I don't know much bout him except for a few glimpses whle playing with the Jackets briefly, but I've seen OP touting him as a roster candidate next year. How can that even be a consideration if he can't get ice time for Cleveland? If if he not good enough defensively for Madden, he'll certainly fall short with Torts.

 

[thebus88]

Along these lines, what's the deal with Stenlund? I don't know much bout him except for a few glimpses whle playing with the Jackets briefly, but I've seen OP touting him as a roster candidate next year. How can that even be a consideration if he can't get ice time for Cleveland? If if he not good enough defensively for Madden, he'll certainly fall short with Torts.

Yeah, I have no answers for you...I've never been overly impressed with him, like some have.

And, I'm still trying to determine which of Murray or Savard we should get rid of, to make room for Gabe Carlsson.

 

[pled]

Along these lines, what's the deal with Stenlund? I don't know much bout him except for a few glimpses whle playing with the Jackets briefly, but I've seen OP touting him as a roster candidate next year. How can that even be a consideration if he can't get ice time for Cleveland? If if he not good enough defensively for Madden, he'll certainly fall short with Torts.

he can play 10 minute on in top6 or pp specialist like Gagner did. no he will never play pk but he might improve enough to not be a liability. he is big and can protect the puck so he has potential there but I guess if there's an open spot on the top6 next year there's other candidate first he will hopefully improve in the ahl.

and wade is not even signed by the jackets I don't really see the point of him being talked about. he's only playing because cleveland only have 5 other healthy defenseman

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Well, going by the "depth chart", him in Columbus is more likely than Stenlund in Columbus.

So 1%?

 

[pled]

hope that TFW come to train with the team even if he doesn't get in the playing roster the pro playoff experience is never bad and he has at least 9-10 days train with them.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

Along these lines, what's the deal with Stenlund? I don't know much bout him except for a few glimpses whle playing with the Jackets briefly, but I've seen OP touting him as a roster candidate next year. How can that even be a consideration if he can't get ice time for Cleveland? If if he not good enough defensively for Madden, he'll certainly fall short with Torts.

Stenlund has been dropping through the depth chart like a rock in the latter part of the season.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

Sunday practice update

Tony Brown's Playoff Notebook (4.28.19)

 

[Doggy]

he can play 10 minute on in top6 or pp specialist like Gagner did. no he will never play pk but he might improve enough to not be a liability. he is big and can protect the puck so he has potential there but I guess if there's an open spot on the top6 next year there's other candidate first he will hopefully improve in the ahl.

and wade is not even signed by the jackets I don't really see the point of him being talked about. he's only playing because cleveland only have 5 other healthy defenseman

I assume I am mis-reading your post. You can't pencil a guy into your top six and then plan to play him just ten minutes a game or as a PP specialist.

If a guy is a defensive liability he needs to do something else AMAZING. He better be a freaking offensive dynamo, faceoff specialist and physically abuse opponents. Stenlund had 15 Gs and 25 Pts in 59 AHL games. That's a far cry from being able to justify a jump to an NHL top six roster spot (and obviously he is not well suited for 4th line duty).

I know some people on here are Stenlund pimps and I get it, you latch on to a guy after he is drafted and you get invested in him. You want him to prove you right. Allen York was that guy for me...I was so sure he was going to be viable NHL goalie and thought the organization mishandled him. I was wrong...he simply was not NHL material. I am guessing none of us on here are scouts (and even scouts get it wrong). I know he's just 23 but statistically he showed zero progress over the course of his first season in Cleveland and is moving towards "no longer a prospect" and being a guy who has to decide if he wants to wallow in the AHL for a decade or go home to Sweden and play in front of his hometown crowds.

Next year he goes back to Cleveland but unless a lightbulb goes on he's an RFA in 2020 and I think his future in the CBJ organization is a dead end.

 

[pled]

I assume I am mis-reading your post. You can't pencil a guy into your top six and then plan to play him just ten minutes a game or as a PP specialist.

If a guy is a defensive liability he needs to do something else AMAZING. He better be a freaking offensive dynamo, faceoff specialist and physically abuse opponents. Stenlund had 15 Gs and 25 Pts in 59 AHL games. That's a far cry from being able to justify a jump to an NHL top six roster spot (and obviously he is not well suited for 4th line duty).

I know some people on here are Stenlund pimps and I get it, you latch on to a guy after he is drafted and you get invested in him. You want him to prove you right. Allen York was that guy for me...I was so sure he was going to be viable NHL goalie and thought the organization mishandled him. I was wrong...he simply was not NHL material. I am guessing none of us on here are scouts (and even scouts get it wrong). I know he's just 23 but statistically he showed zero progress over the course of his first season in Cleveland and is moving towards "no longer a prospect" and being a guy who has to decide if he wants to wallow in the AHL for a decade or go home to Sweden and play in front of his hometown crowds.

Next year he goes back to Cleveland but unless a lightbulb goes on he's an RFA in 2020 and I think his future in the CBJ organization is a dead end.

He is on his ELC. I'm not saying he will do this right now or next year I'm saying I see this as scenario even if he doesn't improve his defensive game.

 

[Arch City Zach]

I know some people on here are Stenlund pimps and I get it, you latch on to a guy after he is drafted and you get invested in him. You want him to prove you right. Allen York was that guy for me...I was so sure he was going to be viable NHL goalie and thought the organization mishandled him. I was wrong...he simply was not NHL material.

I got to have a few beers with Allen York when he was up with us during a Celebrity Bartending event at RBar. Great guy (became one of my favorite players, own a number of jerseys and one of his goalie sticks is our fantasy hockey trophy) but even he said if not for injuries, there was no way he should up in the NHL. He had hoped that he could slowly develop in the minors so he could have a long career. Sadly, that didn't happen, but I totally get it.

 

[majormajor]

I assume I am mis-reading your post. You can't pencil a guy into your top six and then plan to play him just ten minutes a game or as a PP specialist.

If a guy is a defensive liability he needs to do something else AMAZING. He better be a freaking offensive dynamo, faceoff specialist and physically abuse opponents. Stenlund had 15 Gs and 25 Pts in 59 AHL games. That's a far cry from being able to justify a jump to an NHL top six roster spot (and obviously he is not well suited for 4th line duty).

I know some people on here are Stenlund pimps and I get it, you latch on to a guy after he is drafted and you get invested in him. You want him to prove you right. Allen York was that guy for me...I was so sure he was going to be viable NHL goalie and thought the organization mishandled him. I was wrong...he simply was not NHL material. I am guessing none of us on here are scouts (and even scouts get it wrong). I know he's just 23 but statistically he showed zero progress over the course of his first season in Cleveland and is moving towards "no longer a prospect" and being a guy who has to decide if he wants to wallow in the AHL for a decade or go home to Sweden and play in front of his hometown crowds.

Next year he goes back to Cleveland but unless a lightbulb goes on he's an RFA in 2020 and I think his future in the CBJ organization is a dead end.

"Stenlund pimp" seems kind of demeaning. I don't think anyone was even talking about him for months at a time between his draft and the most recent training camp. He had a bit of a breakout in Sweden, but what got me excited for him was just his skillset. He could contribute on an NHL powerplay right now.

With his limited motor, I see him being like Gagner, a guy who finds NHL jobs as a PP ace and depth scorer on teams with thinner lineups. That's rebuilding squads and teams with cap issues, probably not Columbus. Let's see if he can add to his game next year and change that projection, it's not uncommon for the second year in the AHL to be a big step up. And Stenlund is 22, not 23, he wouldn't be the first big man to need a bit more time to develop.

 

[onetimerguy]

Been to a few Monsters games this year. Kid has a heck of a shot, handles the puck well enough, but he does take some time to get up to speed. Sounds like some power skating should be assigned this summer.

My bigger problem is usage. At one game the top power play had Dalpe, Letestu, Gerbe, Clendening, and I think Broadhurst. None exactly considered prospects.

Kind of think some of time could have been allocated to Stenlund, Sherwood, or Abramov (at the time). The team has a nice mix of vets and kids that could have been spread on every line and every situation.

So explain why a non-prospect like DeSalvo - with his 5 goals and a -14 gets playoff time, but a Stenlund gets to be a healthy scratch? It's the AHL.... 1st priority should be player development, 2nd winning don't you think?