Acq/ Rost. Bldg./ Cap Part XXXIII: UFA Frenzy

[artilector]

Wrong! It was an incredibly successful and awesome delivery of it. I'm sure you feel great shame now.

I'll admit, I do have to give you credit where it's due -- the meds that you're on are fantastic!

 

[Carlzner]

the Caps have almost 12 million invested in Mike Green and Brooks Orpik.

Let that sink in.

Soon to be 18-19 million invested in Green, Orpik, and Niskanen!!!!

 

[Blades of Steel]

Tampa is already going to be a hell of a team this year

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Niskanen apparently down to TB and Caps.

Source?

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Well if the Caps are in for Niskanen, (at least) one of a few things are happening:

1- They're trading Green.
2- They're trading Erskine or Orlov.
3- They're putting Mojo or Kuznetsov at 2C.
4- They're trading Laich or Brouwer.

 

[strungout]

IMO you pay Orpik $5.5M he plays with Carlson. It runs the risk of wasting some of Carlson's offensive game but I've got think that's what they're going to want to try at least. Either that or his RD is not yet in the organization and Green is headed out.

Alzner - Green
Orpik - Carlson

Ok!

 

[Stewie G]

Nope, not applicable. You can find a 2008 Civic or equivalent somewhere else. Again, a fungible commodity (especially one with and accepted value standard: KBB) doesn't apply to a pro sports free agent market.

It's an overpayment. If it solidifies the defense, it was worth it. If it doesn't, it wasn't. Simple as that.

I don't know a better way to put it.

Just because Orpik is an improvement over the recent dumpster fire of LD doesn't mean they should have overpaid for him. Fayne would have solidified the defense too. For less money, less term, and for a younger player whose play hasn't nose-dived in recent years.

Does anyone doubt Fayne would have signed the same deal as the one the Caps offered Orpik? More money, more years, and a more, or at the very least, equally appealing location.

The Caps should have taken note of what the Kings and Canadiens were able to do at the deadline. They didn't tie up their cap with overpaid and declining players, and they were able to add key pieces to their team that other contenders likely couldn't afford. Remember the Guerin situation the year the Pens won the Cup? The Caps were willing to pay more but couldn't fit him under the cap.

So, what's the best case scenario here? The Caps get an adequate 2LD for a year or two and then +3 years of bottom pairing play or worse? Guys like Orpik don't age gracefully.

 

[Carlzner]

Well if the Caps are in for Niskanen, (at least) one of a few things are happening:

1- They're trading Green.
2- They're trading Erskine or Orlov.
3- They're putting Mojo or Kuznetsov at 2C.
4- They're trading Laich or Brouwer.

I'd put my money on #3.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

I will take Orpik and Niskanen in exchange for Laich and Green.

 

[Capathetic]

I don't think you can use regular buy-out to a player that has NMC because he can decline to go to waivers? You could do that when CBO'ing someone but not with regular buy-out.

I could be wrong but if i'm not then this is absolute insanity from top to bottom.

Lol honestly I wasn't even thinking that much. I just ment no need to ask him to waive because another team isn't taking him on at that clip.

Didn't think we would ever be a team retaining salary in the Ovie era...

 

[strungout]

Guys like Orpik don't age gracefully.

 

[Koized]

I don't know a better way to put it.

Just because Orpik is an improvement over the recent dumpster fire of LD doesn't mean they should have overpaid for him. Fayne would have solidified the defense too. For less money, less term, and for a younger player whose play hasn't nose-dived in recent years.

Does anyone doubt Fayne would have signed the same deal as the one the Caps offered Orpik? More money, more years, and a more, or at the very least, equally appealing location.

The Caps should have taken note of what the Kings and Canadiens were able to do at the deadline. They didn't tie up their cap with overpaid and declining players, and they were able to add key pieces to their team that other contenders likely couldn't afford. Remember the Guerin situation the year the Pens won the Cup? The Caps were willing to pay more but couldn't fit him under the cap.

So, what's the best case scenario here? The Caps get an adequate 2LD for a year or two and then +3 years of bottom pairing play or worse? Guys like Orpik don't age gracefully.

Exactly. I would have given Fayne the same offer they gave Orpik. Still would have been overpayment but would have been for a better and younger defenseman.

 

[Slappy]

Dave America Lozo ‏@DaveLozo 6m
"Jesus, that Brooks Orpik contract is awful." -- David Clarkson

 

[strungout]

Colorado gets Iggy.

 

[ForzaItalia]

Source?

A guy from another forum who says SJ has joined the fray.

Sorry.

 

[Roughing]

Well if the Caps are in for Niskanen, (at least) one of a few things are happening:

1- They're trading Green.
2- They're trading Erskine or Orlov.
3- They're putting Mojo or Kuznetsov at 2C.
4- They're trading Laich or Brouwer.

Can we trade Orpik?

 

[NeilYoung]

Quite the delusional stance.

How many defensive d men got bought out yesterday alone?

 

[trick9]

Lol honestly I wasn't even thinking that much. I just ment no need to ask him to waive because another team isn't taking him on at that clip.

Didn't think we would ever be a team retaining salary in the Ovie era...

Don't worry.

We can still trade him for Clarkson.

 

[LifetimeUFA]

Colorado gets Iggy.

I guess he is hoping for a Ray B moment

 

[Coldplay619]

How much was Mitchell making?

 

[Carlzner]

Great pickup for Colorado.

 

[Burakovsky95*]

Well if the Caps are in for Niskanen, (at least) one of a few things are happening:

1- They're trading Green.
2- They're trading Erskine or Orlov.
3- They're putting Mojo or Kuznetsov at 2C.
4- They're trading Laich or Brouwer.

I'll put $300 on 3

 

[hb12xchamps]

Iggy for 5.5, 5.5, 5 million.

 

[ForzaItalia]

I guess he is hoping for a Ray B moment

3 years and 16 mill.

 

[Kegger]

Stanley cups....
Orpik 1 Schultz 1