A partner for Morgan Rielly.

[Wafflewhipper]

Just don't think he'll be effective in a bottom six role.

Powerplay, penalty killer,scorer,energy player all wrapped up in a 185 pound 5’9” package would be extremely good. Who knows the way he works out, he might top 185/lbs. then he’s a tank

 

[Mentat]

If Dubas signs Pietrangelo it is worth considering that Rielly might be traded.

I don´t think that´s an idea that crosses anyone within the Leafs frontoffice.
Our defensive woes are well known, and letting go of one of our 2 best blue liners would be, to me, a huge mistake.
Morgan Rielly is a stapple in our blue line and we need to give him a shutdown linemate, so that he can thrive and make us better on the ice.

 

[Fogelhund]

Which I would be totally fine with.

I don't think Muzzin is an ideal #1 LHD, but I think him and AP is a better pair than Rielly and AP.

But then you pretty much have to trade Reilly for futures because you need his money to go to AP.

It's not like you can take the Reilly money in a trade and spend it in another roster player.

It's similar to how the Muzzin trade essentially meant the end of Gardiner with the Leafs.

You can keep Rielly, and AP..... run Rielly on a pairing with a Tanev/Manson/Pesce type... but it means moving a Nylander or Marner.

 

[kb]

If Dubas signs Pietrangelo it is worth considering that Rielly might be traded.

Highly doubtful they trade Rielly over Andersen at the same $$$.

 

[aingefan]

Highly doubtful they trade Rielly over Andersen at the same $$$.

This is gonna be a cool couple weeks.
Agreed, Mo’s much lower on the queue to be dealt (presumably after AJ, Andy, Kerfoot, maybe Engvall, Dermott, Mik) but Pie is better, and Mo’s value would have to be tremendously high.
Soooooo many trade and free agent permutations.

 

[kb]

This is gonna be a cool couple weeks.
Agreed, Mo’s much lower on the queue to be dealt (presumably after AJ, Andy, Kerfoot, maybe Engvall, Dermott, Mik) but Pie is better, and Mo’s value would have to be tremendously high.
Soooooo many trade and free agent permutations.

I suspect it's going to be one of the more interesting Drafts and UFA's in a long time. Perhaps GM's will learn that sitting on their hands isn't necessarily the best option.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Has he considered putting an ad on craigslist?

 

[aingefan]

I suspect it's going to be one of the more interesting Drafts and UFA's in a long time. Perhaps GM's will learn that sitting on their hands isn't necessarily the best option.

It’s near impossible to predict what’s going to happen in TO.
I just want 4-5 trades, 5 more top 60 picks, Pie and a couple of blow-your-mind FA bargains.
One cool year of AM/MM/JT/WN/MR/AP.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I don´t think that´s an idea that crosses anyone within the Leafs frontoffice.
Our defensive woes are well known, and letting go of one of our 2 best blue liners would be, to me, a huge mistake.
Morgan Rielly is a stapple in our blue line and we need to give him a shutdown linemate, so that he can thrive and make us better on the ice.

Who’s this shutdown guy you are talking about.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Highly doubtful they trade Rielly over Andersen at the same $$$.

Easy to say Andersen saves you money. Now replace him with the same quality. How much you saving at that point. Who’s replacing him

 

[kb]

Easy to say Andersen saves you money. Now replace him with the same quality. How much you saving at that point. Who’s replacing him

Now take that exact same sentence but change Andersen yo Rielly.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

This is gonna be a cool couple weeks.
Agreed, Mo’s much lower on the queue to be dealt (presumably after AJ, Andy, Kerfoot, maybe Engvall, Dermott, Mik) but Pie is better, and Mo’s value would have to be tremendously high.
Soooooo many trade and free agent permutations.

“Permutations” now there is a great word that i never use but like the sound and vagueness of its meaning. Just suits our off season to a tee.

The possible permutation variables are staggering this leaf off season. Ha

 

[ToneDog]

Easy to say Andersen saves you money. Now replace him with the same quality. How much you saving at that point. Who’s replacing him

Dubas has a plan for Andy. IMO if he fixes the D, Andy becomes a better goalie. Unless bridges have been burned, giving Andy the Lehner deal might not be a bad idea. What we do not know is how much Dubas values the cap space saving.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Now take that exact same sentence but change Andersen yo Rielly.

Easy to say Andersen yo Rielly saves yo money. Like that?

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Dubas has a plan for Andy. IMO if he fixes the D, Andy becomes a better goalie. Unless bridges have been burned, giving Andy the Lehner deal might not be a bad idea. What we do not know is how much Dubas values the cap space saving.

He might be able to put together a nice deal with the Yotes and get Kuemper back and more in a multi player deal adding Johnsson in to it. I mentioned this before but I’ll go again. I like Crouse for our bottom 6. We get Crouse,Demeres and Kuemper, they get Andersen and Johnsson. Equal quality starter and a contract in Demeres RHD and Crouse for Johnsson.

 

[kb]

Easy to say Andersen yo Rielly saves yo money. Like that?

Yo my man. LOL

 

[The CyNick]

You can keep Rielly, and AP..... run Rielly on a pairing with a Tanev/Manson/Pesce type... but it means moving a Nylander or Marner.

We don't have the cap space to keep Reilly long term, plus add AP and someone like Manson and only have to move Nylander or marner.

We need to move Nylander plus just to sign AP. Or we move AJ, Kerfoot and Hyman. But even in that scenario, there's no room for a Reilly extension.

 

[mapleleaf979]

I would be 100% willing to trade Reilly.

1) He is not good defensively and I do not trust him defending a lead on the ice late in games. He is outmuscled down low and u can break his will and determination to easily. He doesnt hate losing battles as much as he should.

2) He will want a raise so the inevitable will happen and u must move assets before they walk for nothing.

3) With Muzzin signed long term and from my stance the most trusted/important Dman on the Leafs u have Sandin and Dermott on the Left side.

The 1) is the main reason id part ways with him. Reilly isnt a playoff type of guy and on a team that only has 1 playoff type dman(Muzzin) and none in the pipeline, ID trade him this summer.

 

[Fogelhund]

We don't have the cap space to keep Reilly long term, plus add AP and someone like Manson and only have to move Nylander or marner.

We need to move Nylander plus just to sign AP. Or we move AJ, Kerfoot and Hyman. But even in that scenario, there's no room for a Reilly extension.

I'm sorry, but we could add AP, Manson and keep Rielly on an extension. I've done the math, and it checks out...

 

[Ifittex il Verita]

I would be 100% willing to trade Reilly.

1) He is not good defensively and I do not trust him defending a lead on the ice late in games. He is outmuscled down low and u can break his will and determination to easily. He doesnt hate losing battles as much as he should.

2) He will want a raise so the inevitable will happen and u must move assets before they walk for nothing.

3) With Muzzin signed long term and from my stance the most trusted/important Dman on the Leafs u have Sandin and Dermott on the Left side.

The 1) is the main reason id part ways with him. Reilly isnt a playoff type of guy and on a team that only has 1 playoff type dman(Muzzin) and none in the pipeline, ID trade him this summer.

Funny cause Rielly's always been one of our best players in the postseason.

 

[The CyNick]

I'm sorry, but we could add AP, Manson and keep Rielly on an extension. I've done the math, and it checks out...

Show your math

 

[Kelly]

We would be idiots to trade Mo. Hope he's a leaf for life.

 

[613Leafer]

I get that signing, trading for, or drafting a legit D partner for Rielly can be tough.

But enough with the excuses. Rielly has played with crap D partners for 7 years. Hunwick, Marincin, Ceci, Hainsey, Robidas, Franson, etc.

The very best of that group was Hainsey, who came here at age 36 and was realistically a #4-5 guy at that point.

Look at who Keith, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Carlson, etc got to play with when those teams won their Stanley Cups.

Every year defence is a problem, and every year we listen to how hard it is to add defencemen. Boo hoo, figure it out.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Let's just get ekblad and ap. Problem solved. I am a fan of taking a 4/5 year option on tanev. I think he would be a great partner for morgs. Then look at potential trade options for a muzzin partner.

 

[Sniper99]

Pietrangelo is available.

Frank was a goalie and retired a long time ago.