Post-Game Talk: #51 | FLYERS (H) vs. Devils (A) | Saturday, May, 1, 2021 | Loss 4-1

[Amorgus]

The best way to move forward from this season:

1. Find everyone in senior management who thought hiring Fletcher was a good and fire them. If anyone got outvoted on hiring someone else with more potential than maybe keep them around. Replace them with people who aren't senile.

2.Fire Fletcher. Replace with anything north of a used condom.


3 Fire all coaches in the NHL AND AHL teams. Let the used condom replace everyone.

4. Fire Sale

 

[AaronTrieu]

Run it back. I don’t care anymore.

 

[HeyHanrahan]

Damn this mobile version of the site. Also the Flyers have really bummed me out.

 

[Lotusflower]

Philadelphia Questionmarks.

I'll never forget in the midst of Hak hockey circa 16-18 when you would come on here and posters would just glow about the job Hextall was doing draftwise.
Folks fell in love with non-elite prospects and forgot you need legit dynamism to get you where you want to go.

Get a real star. And then maybe i'll give a ****.

 

[Here4ThaLids]

Folks fell in love with non-elite prospects and forgot you need legit dynamism to get you where you want to go.

Get a real star. And then maybe i'll give a ****.

What do you propose?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

What good will firing AV do? When we still have Fletcher and Scott in place?

AV is someone who should be replaced as a way to at least change things up for next season and to get a better system going because whatever the Flyers have been doing this season clearly isn't f***ing working. Yes, we need to change up some players for the Flyers and hopefully bring in some good young players into the mix, but I don't think Fletch gets canned after 2+ seasons. I will say, if Fletch lets AV and the whole coaching staff stay another season, then he should be fired. Just remember, AV never blames himself and generally disconnects himself from what is going on with the team in general. He'll blame kids for the bad PK when Farabee and Sanheim have been good and generally the PK lines have remained the same from last near, sans Niskanen. Also, bringing in a new coaching staff, especially with someone like Gallant, who is generally a very player friendly coach, should hopefully reinvigorate this team and start to put up some good numbers and get back on the right track.

Flyers need a new system that works for the current NHL and can adapt to different situations and get better. We NEED accountability, and not only from the players, but from the coaching staff too.

 

[trostol]

sad part is..as bad as we are..we aren't even bottom 10 bad..middle of the pack bad

 

[deadhead]

The Flyers dominated the Devils everywhere but on the scoreboard.
They're just a snake bit team right now without a NHL goalie.
Elliott gives up a softy, they pressure Blackwood but can't close the deal, then Couts coughs it up to Nico on the PP, short handed goal, game over.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

sad part is..as bad as we are..we aren't even bottom 10 bad..middle of the pack bad

Sheer luck for games they had no business being in and have subsequently turned into a ton of unluckiness (current standings for a pick).

 

[Flyerfan4life]

wrap this season up, then get Torts.

head to promised land

 

[KrazyKat]

wrap this season up, then get Torts.

head to promised land

Last time a team replaced vig with tor. It didn’t go well. I think Hextall had the right idea with this team , and a young coach. But just picked the wrong guy. We tried to fast track and failed. We should have stuck to his plan. Hak was the wrong guy. But it’s been proven a veteran coach and a few fixer uppers to rush playoff success wasn’t the answer

 

[1865]

I haven’t watched a game since they waived Ghost, but are we talking about trading Couturier now? That’s a silly idea.

 

[Fotiu29]

I haven’t watched a game since they waived Ghost, but are we talking about trading Couturier now? That’s a silly idea.

Silly idea is keeping the current players and just getting a new coach.

 

[MorgantiDrinksBlood]

We are quickly becoming the biggest laughing stock in the league, this was Pittsburgh before they got Crosby type shit, better figure something out quick.

 

[BiggE]

There is no way on God’s green earth that I can sit through 5 more of these.

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

The Flyers dominated the Devils everywhere but on the scoreboard.
They're just a snake bit team right now without a NHL goalie.

I gotta believe the point has been made elsewhere, but these last few days, I've become aware that the Flyers are really doing some reverse-Bob-Beamon shit with Team Save Percentage.

This season, they are mired in what looks like unassailable butt-naked-last in that category, clocking in at .876.
The next worst team is sitting at .890.
To span the next .014 gap, you'd cover teams 29-28-27-26-25-24-23-22-21-20-19-18 in that measurement before arriving at LA's 17th place at Team Save Percentage .904.

If the Flyers had League Average Save Percentage, they'd be allowing about as many goals as they've scored.

For abusement's sake, maybe I'll look at some other seasons to try to find comparables- but just to assess things now, it has the feel of historically significant level of execrable.

 

[04hockey]

Ghost on PP1 the only positive.

But at least they apparently tried really hard this game. I'm too lazy to see the real faults.

and as usual ends up a minus 2 for the game .....how's all that razzmatazz for ya ?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Silly idea is keeping the current players and just getting a new coach.

Not as silly as letting Fletcher downgrade everyone on the roster and then expecting them to execute AV's non-system any better.

 

[Beef Invictus]

and as usual ends up a minus 2 for the game .....how's all that razzmatazz for ya ?

I think it would be funny to find out who you think the team's best defenseman is this year.


Who do you think is the team's best dman?

 

[deadhead]

I think it would be funny to find out who you think the team's best defenseman is this year.


Who do you think is the team's best dman?

that's an empty set.

 

[Beef Invictus]

that's an empty set.

Not at all. They aren't all equal.

 

[deadhead]

Not at all. They aren't all equal.

They've all struggled, like Sanheim and Ghost allowing a Devil to get behind them.
Oh yeah, Hagg keeps carrying Ghost.

 

[flyersnorth]

Philadelphia Questionmarks.

I'll never forget in the midst of Hak hockey circa 16-18 when you would come on here and posters would just glow about the job Hextall was doing draftwise.
Folks fell in love with non-elite prospects and forgot you need legit dynamism to get you where you want to go.

Get a real star. And then maybe i'll give a ****.

I don’t see a star player in the organization that will replace G.

Patrick was our lucky lottery ticket for a MacKinnon / Eichel type. But it most definitely didn’t pan out that way.

Farabee might be the best of the bunch, and that’s pretty much the end of the list.

Maybe you can win a Cup without true star talent if you have enough depth, but depth is nowhere near as exciting to watch as star power.

It’s ridiculous how quickly Fletch made this team as vanilla as the Wild without really doing anything.

 

[renberg]

I don’t see a star player in the organization that will replace G.

It’s ridiculous how quickly Fletch made this team as vanilla as the Wild without really doing anything.

The star player is on the roster in Couturier. He's not the flashy McDavid but he's a star a la Bergeron.
I agree with you on Fletcher allowing this club to be Minnesota pt. II. However that happened by bringing in the coaching staff that he did and keeping Gordon at LV. Those mistakes can be easily remedied; fire them. New coach with a different more aggressive style of play and this can all be quickly reversed. There is a lot of talent on this club and in the system. This summer we'll see what Fletcher is made of. If he allows the sludge behind the benches to stay, he is AV's poodle.

 

[Striiker]

Not at all. They aren't all equal.

Yup , there’s definitely tiers with significant separation between the top two and everyone else. Probably something like...

__________

Ghost and Sanheim




Provorov and Braun


____ NHL level ____

Morin

Myers

Hagg

Prosser

___________

Anyone suggesting they've all been bad and nobody should be called the best (as quite a few people have said) are just people who won’t admit that Ghost has been great this year, which many swore would never happen again.