5 teams in, 5 teams out

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  1. wired14

    wired14 Registered User

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    Looking at the standings over the last 2 seasons, I noticed that there was a fairly dramatic change in who qualified for the playoffs year over year. In 2015-2016, 5 teams qualified for the playoffs that did not qualify the previous season. In 2016-2017, 7 new teams qualified for the playoffs that hadn't the season before. So, assuming we get similar changes in the standings, which 5 teams (or more) would you predict make the playoffs and which 5 teams don't? Here are mine:

    East In:
    Buffalo
    Tampa
    Carolina

    East Out:
    Montreal
    Ottawa
    Boston

    West In:
    Dallas
    LA

    West Out:
    San Jose
    Minnesota
     
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    I don't see 5 team turnaround so:

    Out: Toronto, NYR, Ottawa, SJ
    In: Tampa, Carolina, Florida, Dallas
     
  3. DudeWhereIsMakar

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    East in:
    NYI
    Carolina
    Tampa

    East out:
    Washington
    Boston
    NYR

    West in:
    Winnipeg
    Dallas

    West out:
    Chicago
    Minnesota
     
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    West in:
    Dallas
    LA

    West out:
    Chicago
    San Jose

    East in:
    Tampa Bay
    Carolina

    East out:
    NY Rangers
    Toronto
     
  5. Habsrule

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    So you are predicting a Carey Price long term injury this year?
     
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    why no luv for minny? we had 266GF last season even if that drops (with same roster) to 245GF & our GA should be around 200 why would we miss the playoffs? last year we were learning the new BB system , this year i think one of nino ; granlund ; zucker will hit 30G. we could have a monster year if parise ; coyle step up & staal equals last year. only achillies heal could be goaltending.
     
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    West Out
    Chicago
    San Jose

    West In:
    Winnipeg
    Dallas

    East In:
    Philadelphia
    Tampa

    East Out:
    Rangers
    Montreal
     
  8. my name is Bob

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    Pretty sure a lot of people see the worst center depth in the league and a overrated defense.

    I see Montreal falling back to a wildcard spot and a early playoff exit.


    East: Ottawa out, Tampa in.

    West: Blackhawks, blues out,
    Jets and Dallas in.
     
  9. JustaFinnishGuy

    JustaFinnishGuy Joonas Donskoi avi but not a SJ fan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sponsor

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    Oh damn. I expected this to be a really wild 5 teams out of the NHL-
    5 teams in.
    Nevertheless,
    East In Carolina Tampa
    East Out Toronto Boston
    West In Jets Dallas LA
    West Out Minnesota Blues Calgary
     
  10. Prairie Habs

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    Same centres that won the division last year.
     
  11. my name is Bob

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    Can't catch lightning twice.
     
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    Tell that to pittsburgh's defence
     
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    Our defence was very good in 2016. Letang would have made the 2017 win easier.
     
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    Contrary to what Habs fans believe, others teams in the ATL have improved enough to supplant them.
     
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    Their an average defensive group. Habs are the worst centers in the league..
     
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    But according to a poster on their board, top 3 wingers in the league.
     
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    That's far form been worst center in the NHL but coming from you(biggest Leaf Fan ever) that's not really relevant.

    MTL Center are pretty average but their wingers are top notch.

    C-Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Danault-McCarron
    W-Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher-Lehkonen-Shaw-Byron-Hemsky

    MTL offence will rank around 15th just like last year and the defence will remain top5 for sure with Mr Julien behind the bench.
     
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    Sleeping on the Sens after their run? :dunno:
     
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    Same old song as the last year? :laugh:

    Outside of Tampa nobody from this division can catch MTL next year.

    Atlantic division:

    -Best goaltender
    -MTL OTT TB are pretty even for the defence core
    -Julien is among the best coach along with Babcock
    -Best set of wingers along with Tampa Bay

    The division title will be between them and Tampa Bay with Ottawa as darkhorse pick.
     
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    I could easily see 5 teams out 5 teams in again. For me i see potential for some serious passing of the torch going on next season, more than ever before.

    Teams that could miss, especially if the injury bug hits:

    No matter how you twist and turn it the Hawks got worse, Saad is not Panarin, Forsberg is not Darling, Murphy is not Hjalmarsson and relying on a bunch of young guys (especially when they aren't star caliber) is always a question mark. Injuries will happen and as their core are getting older for me the chances of a big name going down sooner rather than later are going up each year. That defense looks catastrophic if Keith or Seabrook go down, not that it looks great even when they're healthy.

    Capitals lost 2 of their top 6 guys and 2 significant pieces from their d-core, without bringing anyone in. I don't care if they've been the best team in the regular season for 2 years in a row, parity is so strong that i can easily see them losing those tight games that they won last season. And once it sinks in that they've gone from a team thinking this is the year they win it all to a team just fighting for a playoff spot.. i don't know, that could be tough to handle.

    Habs have some significant holes. This season they were on a mission to make up for that disaster 15-16, and started off extremely hot. But i doubt that happens again. Meanwhile Bolts will come roaring back, Sabres are becoming more of a threat each season and Metro could grab 5 spots, so there's not much room for error.

    Bruins only made the playoffs by a point and they're more or less status quo this summer. Could easily miss.

    And lastly im not going to single out any particular team, but we always seem to get at least one team that goes through extreme bad luck with injuries and in today's league that's tough to overcome. Throw in some locker room issues and/or coaches lifespan coming to an end, almost anyone can miss the playoffs if they all pile up in one year.

    Teams i like for next season:

    Hurricanes will make the playoffs sooner or later, and they started clicking after a tough start. There's just something about a young team on a mission to make the playoffs boosted by moves they made during the summer, i like their chances. A lot to prove for this team and they aren't going to stop trying.

    Sabres for me are a team that is just waiting to break out. With a top 5 1-2 punch down the middle they're no joke, and i thought they made a lot of good moves addressing their biggest needs this off-season. And just like Carolina, the team believes they can make it and have a lot to prove.

    Islanders are getting overlooked by a lot of people even when they only missed the playoffs by 1 point. JT didn't have a great season. Ladd underachieved. And while they lost Hamonic he was terrible this year and i think Pulock can bring more to the table than what Hamonic did in 16-17, not to mention change of scenery for Eberle. And again, the theme i have with these teams is having a lot to prove, and that the Islanders certainly have.

    Stars got so much better you have to think they can make it. Could see them being one of the teams that overachieve, due to a disaster year and excitement after all the changes.

    Jets have a team to make the playoffs. To me all we need to do is stay healthy, and we're right there.

    I know that was 5 teams already, but there's something special for me about the Coyotes. Strome, Keller, Domi, Dvorak, Duclair, Perlini, Chychrun.. that's A LOT of young talent, guys who i think will be good players. And honestly, when have we seen a rebuilding team bringing in a top 6 center and a top pairing d-man in one summer? That just doesn't happen. I also think Raanta is ready for #1 role. Overall i really like what the Yotes are doing and for me it's not impossible to see a similar season from them than what we saw from the Leafs. They might not have Matthews, but did the Leafs have OEL-Hammer back there?
     
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  21. my name is Bob

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    Lol I'm not even close to the biggest leafs fan. I wish I was, but I don't watch or post here that much. Galchenyuk is a center now? Mccarron has how many NHL games? Plekanec scored how many points last season?

    It's honestly embarrassing.

    Can you name me even 3 worse center groups? And you think their average? :shakehead:
     
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    DominicBoltsFan Advanced stats are good!

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    E in: TB
    E out: OTT

    W in: DAL
    W out: STL

    I don't see much change tbh
     
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    If Plekanec struggles and has another poor year, that's going to put a lot of pressure on Danault and Galchenyuk. I'm also aware Galchenyuk is a 'Natural Center', but he's been a winger in the NHL. Very rarely does someone in his situation adjust to that change.

    Not a fan of their wingers. Pacioretty is great, as is Drouin. Gallagher had a pretty unimpressive year. Byron was great, but he had a lot of time on the top line. Outside of that, I don't see much. Hemsky could be effective if he can remain healthy, but the odds of that happening are very slim.

    The defense is a lot better defensively, but the offense that they'll contribute has dropped significantly.

    However, they still have Carey Price, which is probably enough to make them a favorite for the top spot in the division. I don't see this team being deep enough for much of a playoff run though.
     
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    East IN: Carolina, Philly, Tampa
    East Out: Ottawa, Montreal, Rangers

    West In: Dallas,
    West Out: Chicago
     
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    -poor possession numbers
    -negative goal differential
    -Boucher's eventual grating
    -general trend of one season good/one bad
     

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