Post-Game Talk: #29: FLYERS at Flames, Wednesday, Dec. 12, 2018, 8:30 p.m. ET

[Amorgus]

What is all of this elevation nonsense? Did one of the trolls come up with that bull****?

So does that mean the Avalanche will never lose at home?

 

[wuf]

I can't take watching this team. It's not all their fault, Amac and Weise are Dave and Knoblauch's boys. Put em out when it counts!

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

So does that mean the Avalanche will never lose at home?

Except when they play Calgary. Then it's 50/50.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

They literally played more than half of the 3rd period a man short. Of course the opponent is going to dominate possession & shots — it would be the same for every team in the league.

Now, if you want to bash them for being overly passive on the 6-on-5s — absolutely. But for most of the period, you can thank Simmonds & Gost for terrible lack of discipline, & Laughton & Raffl for interference, for forcing the Flyers to have the ice tilted against them.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Losers in a Hak Shell
Turtle Power

So I have to imagine that before the new year Hakstok is gone and a trade is made. It has to happen, right? RIGHT?

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Weise is consistently bad with the puck and zone exits/clears, yet he's relied on up one goal with a minute left?

 

[Starat327]

They literally played more than half of the 3rd period a man short. Of course the opponent is going to dominate possession & shots — it would be the same for every team in the league.

Now, if you want to bash them for being overly passive on the 6-on-5s — absolutely. But for most of the period, you can thank Simmonds & Gost for terrible lack of discipline, & Laughton & Raffl for interference, for forcing the Flyers to have the ice tilted against them.

If this was a one game issue, you would absolutely have a point. But this happens EVERY TIME we enter the third period with a lead. Theres proof, and its been posted in this very thread.

 

[Starat327]

So does that mean the Avalanche will never lose at home?

I wont lie to you, i was in Denver last year for work, and went to a game cause i had the night to myself. Just walking up and down the steps to go get a beer was flipping exhausting.

 

[Bruckuss]

Losers in a Hak Shell
Turtle Power

We should all get turtle power avatars, for our "real" playoffs this year, 1OA lol

 

[Amorgus]

I wont lie to you, i was in Denver last year for work, and went to a game cause i had the night to myself. Just walking up and down the steps to go get a beer was flipping exhausting.

So I hear. Who's at the lowest elevation then? I know Pittsburgh seems like a city carved out of the side of a mountain by Morlocks and every road seems to be at an 80 degree angle but it could just be an illusion of being underground.

 

[Starat327]

So I hear. Who's at the lowest elevation then? I know Pittsburgh seems like a city carved out of the side of a mountain by Morlocks and every road seems to be at an 80 degree angle but it could just be an illusion of being underground.

Sunrise, FL is at Sea level, so youd have to find a town below sea level to beat them. Its tough, because youre gonna need to 'dig' (pun intended) to find the elevation at the actual stadium.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

If this was a one game issue, you would absolutely have a point. But this happens EVERY TIME we enter the third period with a lead. Theres proof, and its been posted in this very thread.

I clearly was making a point about this particular game.

 

[Danko]

I dont see them doing anything with the coach until they are back from the road trip which would be the 17th/18th. Even then, Coachroaches & Hakstol.

 

[FlyerNutter]

It’s more likely you see a trade than the coach being fired.

I just don’t see it. I agree with whoever said they wouldn’t have brought in an assistant with (with Hak’s stamp of approval), if they were really indeed close to letting him go.

The upper management is made up of morons. This is on Holmgren’s head at this point. A season like this, if it continues - should get him fired as well.

 

[Starat327]

It’s more likely you see a trade than the coach being fired.

I just don’t see it. I agree with whoever said they wouldn’t have brought in an assistant with (with Hak’s stamp of approval), if they were really indeed close to letting him go.

The upper management is made up of morons. This is on Holmgren’s head at this point. A season like this, if it continues - should get him fired as well.

I mean, we all thought Hak would go before Hextall, so its entirely possible, however unlikely..

 

[Beef Invictus]

You've gotta be amazingly arrogant or amazingly stupid to repeatedly do something over and over, have it blow up in your face over and over, and insist it is the best way to do the thing.

 

[Tripod]

So...Wilson was brought in to oversee the D. Is he determining ice time because it SEEMS like this has Haks stink all over it.

 

[flyers0909]

You've gotta be amazingly arrogant or amazingly stupid to repeatedly do something over and over, have it blow up in your face over and over, and insist it is the best way to do the thing.

Kind of like how at the end of each of these types of games I say to myself this is the one that gets him fired.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So...Wilson was brought in to oversee the D. Is he determining ice time because it SEEMS like this has Haks stink all over it.

No no, Hextall determines TOI. He whispers arcane secrets into the ear of his Hakstol doll, and the effigy on the bench obeys.

 

[Tripod]

It's just frustrating as hell that we are not getting better now, and not developing our assets for the future either.

But hey, they can't ask for big contracts if we don't let them play.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

You've gotta be amazingly arrogant or amazingly stupid to repeatedly do something over and over, have it blow up in your face over and over, and insist it is the best way to do the thing.

The more I learn about in-practice organizational dynamics in sports teams in general, the more convinced I am it’s usually the former.

There’s a tactically excellent current NBA coach who’s taken marginal players aside to tell them not to socialize with teammates or attempt to be part of the team because he has his guys and that’s enough.

 

[Striiker]

You've gotta be amazingly arrogant or amazingly stupid to repeatedly do something over and over, have it blow up in your face over and over, and insist it is the best way to do the thing.

I can't tell if this is referring to Hakstol or the people defending him.

 

[FlyersMania2]

Hak loser point.

No one else can take blame anymore. We need a coach who plays a real system and brings out the best in our players. Far worse teams have managed to do far better.

It's a Haktastrophe

 

[Beef Invictus]

@deadhead, we have a guy on this roster who you think has the ability to surpass Tavares shortly. Yet he's drowning under Hakstol's guidance along with the strong majority of young players.


Is this your idea of good coaching?

 

[VladDrag]

It's just frustrating as hell that we are not getting better now, and not developing our assets for the future either.

But hey, they can't ask for big contracts if we don't let them play.

That's the worst aspect to this team. Constantly 2 years away from being 2 years away.