Anyone hear Burke say that arbitrators still get 60% of their fee when teams and players settle before the hearing?
Anyone else want to go back and be a hockey arbitration lawyer or is that just me?
But the arbiter cannot award you term.no player gets screwed going into NHL arbitration.
If term is player's priority, that's what you negotiate for.
Jeez, don't often see an potential arb settled for league min... Wonder what was going in the negotiations there.
But the arbiter cannot award you term.
We never get to have any fun.
But that just does not jive with posters here talking about the reason it's going to arbitration is because the two sides can't agree on term.correct, the options are clearly documented and known before-hand, as mutually negotiated by NHL and PA
Arb contracts for RFAs will be 1 year or 2 only.
No one is getting screwed.
If term is priority, you get that deal negotiated ahead of the hearing.
As per the CBA, the arbiter has 48 hours from the closing of the hearing.
Sometimes they come the evening of, but it's not uncommon we do wait two days. Don't know what time in the day Bert's hearing was, or how long it was, when it ended, but with today being two days after the hearing, the decision should be made some time today.
DET then has another 48 hours to decide to match or walk if the settlement is above the threshold to walk.
i guess the hearing didn't happen, a settlement was announced, see up one levelHow long do the rulings usually take. Bertuzzi should've been done by now, it seems.
i guess the hearing didn't happen, a settlement was announced, see up one level
No settlement. The 3.5m was the award by the arbiter.i guess the hearing didn't happen, a settlement was announced, see up one level
The $3.15m from Detroit makes me wonder if they're using Max Domi as their comparable. Looking for comparable players with 15-25 goals and 40+ points the past four seasons who signed at age 23-26, contract of 1-3 years yields notables:
Max Domi $3.15m, Mark Stone $3.5m, Ondrej Palat $3.33m, Tyler Johnson $3.33m, Jason Zucker $2m, Tyler Toffoli $4.6m, Cam Atkinson $3.5m. (note: didn't verify every player produced these numbers prior to the contract)
Looking at their contracts and numbers I'm inclined to think Bertuzzi outproduced Domi in the seasons leading up to their comparable contracts, but I don't see a clear comparable to merit the $4.25m ask. My instinct would be an arbitration award a little higher then Domi. Maybe something in the ~$3.5m range.
The only forward I see who signed a RFA deal at $4.25m cap is Victor Arvidsson. That would be an interesting comparable, but it seems so difficult to use a 7 year contract as comparable for a 1 year arbitration award.
Negotiations can be whatever the parties want. For arbitration eligible players there is an opportunity to get a 1-2 year deal determined by an independent party when the parties can't agree to a contract, regardless of what negotiations looked like.But that just does not jive with posters here talking about the reason it's going to arbitration is because the two sides can't agree on term.
If term is the problem, opting for arbitration is folly. Thus, term was never the issue in this particular case. The two sides don't agree on money, Q.E.D.
all about the AHL salary on that one . 225K guaranteed in the AHL is a good move by Ho-SangJeez, don't often see an potential arb settled for league min... Wonder what was going in the negotiations there.
Sabres and Rangers are going to get taken to the cleaners.
Really? We will see about that...Rangers are so screwed.
Ryan Strome may, he had a strong season re points last season, may roll the dice w arbitrator,I guess Bertuzzi is going to end up being the only one to actually go to arbitration.
I expect $4,538,957.99 to stick it to usWill be interesting to see whether Strome ends up above or below the walk away number, $4,538,958.