Confirmed Signing with Link: 26 players have filed for Salary Arbitration *Updated with Arbitration schedule *

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    26 Players Elect Salary Arbitration

    2020 Salary Arbitration schedule

    October 20
    Andre Mangiapane (CGY) - signed October 16
    Anthony DeAngelo (NYR) - signed October 15
    Matthew Grzelcyk (BOS) - signed October 17

    October 21
    Ilya Mikheyev (TOR) - signed October 20

    October 22
    Connor Brown (OTT) - signed October 22

    October 25
    Tyler Bertuzzi (DET) - awarded $3.5M and signed October 27

    October 26
    Linus Ullmark (BUF) - signed October 25

    October 27
    Sam Reinhart (BUF) - signed October 25

    October 28
    Jake Virtanen (VAN) - signed October 22

    October 30
    Joshua Ho-Sang(NYI) - signed October 27

    October 31
    Devon Toews (COL) - signed October 27
    Alexander Georgiev (NYR) - signed October 15

    November 1
    Nicholas Paul (OTT) - signed October 14

    November 2
    Gustav Forsling (CAR) - signed October 24

    November 4
    Victor Olofsson (BUF) - signed October 29
    Warren Foegele (CAR) - signed October 31

    November 5
    Ryan Strome (NYR) - signed November 5

    November 6
    Brendan Lemiexux (NYR) - signed November 6
    Ryan Pulock (NYI) - signed November 5

    November 7
    Christian Jaros (OTT) - signed November 4

    November 8
    Chris Tierney (OTT) - signed October 26
    MacKenzie Weegar (FLA)) - signed November 6
    Haydn Fleury (CAR) - signed October 27
     
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    But the deadline for giving qualifying offers was Oct. 7, so teams have already made the decision on who they will and won't qualify. Teams can't change their mind and rescind an offer now.

    Qualifying happens first, then arbitration for those eligible.
     
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    I believe that it was the Sens that had selected arbitration, not Ceci. This is key, because if the team chooses arbitration they forfeit their walkaway option.
    The Leafs chose to pay Ceci $200,000 more than the qualifying offer because they did not want to take the risk of an arbitration award being much higher.
     
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    Neither side selected arbitration. The Leafs signed Ceci before the deadline to file for arbitration.

    The previous year in 2018 Ceci selected arbitration with Ottawa and was awarded a one year $4.3m contract.
     
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    I stand corrected. Thank you.
     
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    8G/15A/23PTS in 39GP. Zero points in 5 playoff GP.

    The PPG is really nice, but otherwise no previous games before this season and didn’t stay healthy this year. 3rd line TOI.

    Without searching for comparables I’d guess he’s getting something around $1.5-1.6m in arbitration. Potentially a little more if the Leafs want 2 years.
     
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    Toronto did not make the playoffs
     
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    Play-ins count in the PO stats.
     
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    Are these all done by one arbitrator?
     
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    I don't know what the plan is this year, but typically in the past there are 3-4 arbitrators assigned to the cases.
     
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    understood thanks. The player stats count but the Leafs didn’t make the real playoffs . I so enjoy typing that ..
     
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    The cup qualifiers were part of the playoffs.
     
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    Led Ottawa forwards in TOI/G, 16G/27A/43PTS in 71GP, on pace for ~50 points in a normal 82 game season. Three solid seasons previously at 36, 28, 29 points.

    Some possible comparables (looking for RFA forwards age 23-27 who signed 1-3 year deals:

    Tyler Toffoli $4.6m. I think Brown is noticeably behind Toffoli, with Toffoli having had 49 and 58 point seasons, plus a injured 34 point season that paced for 44 points. Plus Toffoli had a 30G season under his belt.

    Max Domi $3.15m. Domi had 52, 38, 45 point seasons, only 9 goals each in the two final years though. I would probably give Brown a small edge here based on better goal scoring and higher TOI / value to team.

    Richard Panik $2.8m. Panik had a 22G/22A season prior to the deal, but his prior 4 NHL seasons didn't have production near this. Also well behind in TOI and relative team TOI. Strong edge to Brown.


    Not trying to do a comprehensive list of comparables. My guess on Brown would be his arbitration floor is somewhere around $3.3m, ceiling of $4m.
     
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    @mouser

    Thoughts on Weegar? He has filed every year eligible in FLA.

    Our fans are a bit worried he takes the one year and walks.
    I still think we can sign him to a 2-3 year deal with comparable of Graves (3yr x $3.17 mil) in COL and recently with Grz (4yr x $3.69 mil) in BOS.

    1 year x $3mil
    2 years x $3.25 mil
    3 years x $3.45 mil
    4 years x $3.65 mil
     
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    I have a really hard time gauging Weegar. Best thing he has going for him is 20min TOI/G this season, good for 3rd on Florida. Generally playing 2nd pairing minutes is going to net a bigger award then 3rd pairing minutes. Then again he only played 45 games this season and 3rd pairing minutes the prior two. Solid on blocked shots, but nothing out of proportion to the other D on his team. Almost no PP time, takes a regular SH shift.

    Graves deal bought 1 year of UFA, Grz bought 3. Graves played 2nd pairing minutes (though still absolutely less then Weegar). Grz played 3rd pairing.

    There are other players who have had stats not totally dissimilar from Weegar and received less then $2.5m. Just looking at the two names you mentioned, I'd expect to view him more similarly to Graves then Grz because of the # of UFA years bought.

    An educated guess, but guess none the less, I'd think $3m is the ceiling on what Weegar could expect in arbitration, with a floor of about $2.5m (though this could be lower). Wouldn't be shocked by an arbitration award around $2.75m or so.
     
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    Appreciate the reply.

    I think management side will bring up his injuries as evidence against a higher award.
    Figured somewhere around $2.5 to $2.75 million would be the floor on management side and Weegar would come in around $4 to $4.25 million, and both sides meet somewhere near the middle.
    I think the 2 year deal in around $3 to $3.25 mil per seems fair for both, Weegar has improved every year since juniors.

    He could play with Ekblad on the top pair again, improving his monetary/player value for 2 years when the cap goes up, he'd be 28 years old and possibly have 3 years (2.5 years with injuries) at 20mins/game which could be closer to a deal of 4 years x $4.5 to $5 million as a free agent.

    He was pacing around 12 goals and 30pts with no PP time.
     
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    And Mikheyev signs for 2 years x $1.645m, avoiding arbitration.
     
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    Connor Brown signs for 3 years x $3.6m, avoiding arbitration.
     
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    i'm new to the RFA signing process but aren't there tons more RFAs than this? (i.e. TB with Cirelli, Sergachev) If they haven't elected for arb does that mean they intend to sign with their teams?
     
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    Outside of Offer Sheets ( and those don't happen ) or threatening the leave the NHL they can't sign elsewhere.
     
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    per the NHL CBA, for RFA to be eligible for salary arbitration,
    they must qualify according to this chart, by age and/or pro experience

    ARTICLE 12 SALARY ARBITRATION
    12.1 Eligibility for Player or Club Election of Salary Arbitration.
    (a) A Player is eligible for salary arbitration if the Player meets the qualifications set forth in the following chart and in Section 12.1(b) below:
    First SPC Signing AgeMinimum Level of Professional
    Experience Required to be
    Eligible for Salary Arbitration

    18-20
    4 years professional experience

    21
    3 years professional experience

    22-23
    2 years professional experience

    24 and older
    1 year professional experience

    Source: COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE AND NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE PLAYERS' ASSOCIATION
    FEBRUARY 15, 2013
     
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    Honestly, that's a low ask from Bertuzzi's end.

    I dunno why both sides couldn't mutually agree on a 5 x $4.5M - $5M deal, at that rate.
     
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    Totally agree 5 x $4.5M - $5M is more then fair for what Tyler Bertuzzi brings to the club.
     
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