Are you crazy!?
And I hope Walman can play the right side so we never have to see Lindstrom again.
Chiarot is perfectly fine. Just not next to Seider. I've been skeptical of that pairing since pre-season and saw how much Chia was activating and how much Mo was deferring.
My main problem with the team has been how the defense is used. I'm fine with forwards being coached to be responsible. In a way that can create a ton of offense by creating counterattack. However, the D is playing so passive they're taking themselves out of the play, except for Chiarot, who should be one of the last guys activating.
The good news is Chiarot's been great so far and can be moved to a different pairing if he's actually hurting Seider's game, which is a claim I'm very skeptical of.
With as horrific as the 3rd pairing has been, I don't think we can afford to combine any of Mo, Chia, Maatta. Pair them with Ed, Hronek, and whoever the least awful defenseman remaining is.
Skeptical indeed.
You've never seen this organization stick stubbornly to something that isn't really working? Really?
They stick stubbornly to something that isn't working from the fan's perspective, sure. I hate to damage anyone's ego around here, but our opinions, even if they are a near-consensus on the forum, are not always right, not always the reality, and especially not always in agreement with the opinions of the coaches/management.
Mo isn't deferring in the sense that he's waiting for Chia to do something. He's deferring in the sense that Chia is already off doing his thing and Mo doing the same would be unwise.But I'm not even sure we should blame Chiarot. It's the coaches job, to explain to Mo, to not defer and carry play on his own. That's not his partner's mistake. What's Chiarot supposed to do? Pass it right back to Mo whenever he gets it?
An appeal to authority is a chickenshit move on a hockey forum.
Blaming Chiarot for Seider's slow start is just sort of lazy. He had really high expectations coming into the season and because he hasn't looked good through 9 games, people default to Chiarot as the explanation.An appeal to authority is a chickenshit move on a hockey forum.
And even then, privy to a grand plan or not. Whatever said plan might be isn't working unless what we are seeing is the intent of said plan. In which case it's a shitty plan.
Well, I didn't really appeal to authority though. I said they might have a good reason, but they might not have a good reason. As in, maybe they are wrong. My point wasn't that the coaches are automatically right, it's that they are very likely looking at a number of factors we are not considering, and they are working with a lot more information than we are. By our very nature, as fans, our opinions are based on a lot of assumptions. And we tend to insert our biases while ignoring other factors. The coaches could be wrong, but they are not automatically wrong because Moritz Seider is not getting as many offensive chances as fans would like.An appeal to authority is a chickenshit move on a hockey forum.
And even then, privy to a grand plan or not. Whatever said plan might be isn't working unless what we are seeing is the intent of said plan. In which case it's a shitty plan.
It's not blaming. Chiarot is not at fault here. I like what Chiarot is doing. It's a pleasant surprise if you will. What I don't like is that it leaves Seider with little to do out on the ice. If Chiarot is activating, which he's doing basically every shift. Mo can't, or more accurately, shouldn't. And he's not. Which is what a good partner is supposed to do when one them activates. What this leaves us with is a young wanting to be active defender that's not activating. We are wasting Seider's capabilities when we could be utilizing them on a different pairing.
Correct. You didn't type the words, "I appeal to the Red Wings' Management and Coaching Staff's Authority!"Well, I didn't really appeal to authority though. I said they might have a good reason, but they might not have a good reason. As in, maybe they are wrong. My point wasn't that the coaches are automatically right, it's that they are very likely looking at a number of factors we are not considering, and they are working with a lot more information than we are. By our very nature, as fans, our opinions are based on a lot of assumptions. And we tend to insert our biases while ignoring other factors. The coaches could be wrong, but they are not automatically wrong because Moritz Seider is not getting as many offensive chances as fans would like.
But right or wrong, my point is it is deliberate, yes. There is a plan, yes. Where there is likely a divergence here, between a message board and the coaches, is the criteria that makes the plan good or bad, successful or shitty. Our criteria are probably not quite the same.
In short, you are all wrong
Haha.
Have you seen their ES GA/60? That tandem just gives away goals. Swap them with Joe and Zadina and have Copp - Veleno - Zadina be the shutdown line and put Bergy with Ras and Soda as a scoring line.
