This makes a lot of sense.Let's be honest.. it's more likely Walker just leaves as a pricey UFA, we keep the top 4 that are all under contract, and the organization lets Malinski try to be the Walker-lite 3RHD.
This makes a lot of sense.Let's be honest.. it's more likely Walker just leaves as a pricey UFA, we keep the top 4 that are all under contract, and the organization lets Malinski try to be the Walker-lite 3RHD.
Players want to live and play in Vegas... it is a top 5 destination city in the league. They also treat the players off the ice the best in the league by a good margin.
That looks about right, except I don't think Seattle is in the 2nd tier. Probably closer to the 4th.What do you think is the top 5?
Here's my rankings of most attractive cities for NHLers (not based on teams performance)
Top tier:
Florida
Tampa Bay
New-York (Rags)
Vegas
LA
2nd tier:
Dallas
Boston
Seattle
Anaheim
San Jose
3rd tier:
All the remaining US East teams minus Columbus
Vancouver
4th tier:
All the remaining US West teams minus Columbus and Arizona <--- Colorado is here
Toronto
5th tier:
All the remaining Canadian teams + Columbus and Arizona
And if you teach a man to fish...There's one thing to consider too...if you let an UFA walk you get nothing but if you trade a guy under contract you get something back.
This could make a difference between keeping Walker vs Girard or Manson.
What do you think is the top 5?
Here's my rankings of most attractive cities for NHLers (not based on teams performance)
Top tier:
Florida
Tampa Bay
New-York (Rags)
Vegas
LA
2nd tier:
Dallas
Boston
Seattle
Anaheim
San Jose
3rd tier:
All the remaining US East teams minus Columbus
Vancouver
4th tier:
All the remaining US West teams minus Arizona <--- Colorado is here
Toronto
5th tier:
All the remaining Canadian teams + Columbus and Arizona
Byram was put in the same situations as Girard and did worse than Girard. He has no one to blame but himself really.
Yeah, he’s not going anywhere. Certainly not in a trade.
I think they moved Byram because it was what they had to do to fill the 2C issue for real. I don't think there was much of a choice.
I really don't think they could've done that. I'm a huge Sammy G fan but even I know there just isn't much of a market there for him out there, certainly not for a "stopgap" 2C (for the sake of discussion, I am assuming "stopgap" here is a guy like Strome or Strome, but not Henrique or Wennberg, none of whom I think could be had in exchange for Sammy). Part of the appeal of Byram was his age, and his low cap hit and lack of term. Made him the far more tradeable asset.They could have traded G for a stop gap 2C under contract for another year, to wait for Ritchie, and kept Bo, but I think they thought they had a better chance of winning this year, with the move they made.
I really don't think they could've done that. I'm a huge Sammy G fan but even I know there just isn't much of a market there for him out there, certainly not for a "stopgap" 2C (for the sake of discussion, I am assuming "stopgap" here is a guy like Strome or Strome, but not Henrique or Wennberg, none of whom I think could be had in exchange for Sammy). Part of the appeal of Byram was his age, and his low cap hit and lack of term. Made him the far more tradeable asset.
I feel like if they move on from G it'll be more of a salary dump-type situation. There's really only one team IMO who'd be very interested in picking #49 up, and it's the team that just beat the Avs last night. I'm certainly not dying on that hill or even getting rocks thrown at me on it though.
I certainly believe Sammy has value, and the Avs certainly value him, but I just don't think there's many, if any among the 31 other GMs who value an undersized puckmover who doesn't really generate a lot of offense on his own, regardless of how well he plays defensively.Respect the opinion of those who believe Sammy doesn't have much value around the league, but I just disagree. Especially after the way he played from January until the deadline.
Teams value fast PMD's to help their transition game now more than ever, and GIrard even with his limitations, is one of the absolute best in the league at transitioning the puck. There are teams that need that.
He may not have got Mittelsdadt, but he could have got a serviceable 2C better/younger than Henrique IMO. A Strome level player or perhaps another sneaky good buy low pro scout target we're not aware of. I think they could have won with that level player too, but it would have been more reliant on Ritchie panning out beyond that.
I do think it's unlikely they move G now though. Feels like they made a choice between him and Bo, and also moving him, and keeping Walker, while I think Walker is better defensively, and about the same offensively, would mean they've made the blueline substantially older.
Yeah, he’s not going anywhere. Certainly not in a trade.
I would pay to see some people at HFAvs, to have 5mins with Nate 1 on 1 in a room, trying to explain to him how trading away Mikko for any package is good and helps them win more.Nate would lose his shit if they traded Mikko. A big part of why Bednar always plays them together, is because they want to play together. We know Nate has some influence on Joe and CMac's decisions.
That alone meant Mikko probably wasn't getting traded, and there's a good chance they find a way to re-sign him.
Nate would lose his shit if they traded Mikko. A big part of why Bednar always plays them together, is because they want to play together. We know Nate has some influence on Joe and CMac's decisions.
That alone meant Mikko probably wasn't getting traded, and there's a good chance they find a way to re-sign him.
Sometimes I can convince myself that Sir Avsgard was really Bednar just gettting drunk and trolling us after games.CMac may not be the most exciting guy but I love how he seems to know the people covering the team, even the smaller guys, and call them by their first name. For example he knew that @The Mars Volchenkov was always writing about Kovalenko and all that stuff.
I'd not be surprised to learn that he reads this forum from time to time.
It's not the same. TBoobs and Nate were probably closer than Mikko and Nate are. But there's also a big, big difference in how Mikko affects the team, and affect Nate's play on the ice.Eh, I think people thought that when they dealt Tyson Barrie. That said, I'm sure any team's best player has some sway on the front office.
Eh, I think people thought that when they dealt Tyson Barrie. That said, I'm sure any team's best player has some sway on the front office.
I'm just convinced he's from Turku, Finland, because he's so heavily invested in Rantanen AND Kakko. Kinda like me But I can assure you, I'm not sir avgard. I kinda wish I was, reading some of his stuff is mind-blowing to say the least.Sometimes I can convince myself that Sir Avsgard was really Bednar just gettting drunk and trolling us after games.
It's less about friendship, than having a winger who's game he highly respects, and wants to play with.
Losing a friend he can probably justify as being part of the business like Barrie, ROR, and Bo, but it's different when the player is his winger, and he's had a ton of success individually, and as a team playing with him.
Would depend on the trade imo. Nate wants to win flat out. If trading Mikko made the team better and have a better chance at a cup I’m sure he’d be fine with it. But you move for futures and there’d be a problem.Nate would lose his shit if they traded Mikko. A big part of why Bednar always plays them together, is because they want to play together. We know Nate has some influence on Joe and CMac's decisions.
That alone meant Mikko probably wasn't getting traded, and there's a good chance they find a way to re-sign him.
Would depend on the trade imo. Nate wants to win flat out. If trading Mikko made the team better and have a better chance at a cup I’m sure he’d be fine with it. But you move for futures and there’d be a problem.
M-NTC beginning June 15, 2024: 6 team no-trade listSmall technicality. Wood doesn't have any form of trade or movement protection.