Speculation: 2023-24 Sharks Roster Discussion

[coooldude]

A little bit of racialism on my part, but Gushchin reminds me of Alexander Korolyuk. Perhaps a less talented version...

Oh man, Korky had such high end flashes...

 

[Mattb124]

That Burns Trade is pretty awful looking back

True, but it is surprising he has aged as well as he has. That was a lot of the risk in CAR making that deal given his contract runs to age 40.

 

[Kcoyote3]

The Burns trade laid the framework for Grier to offload Karlsson. That's how I'll justify it.

 

[Alaskanice]

Being overlooked or outright ignored is that Burns wanted to be traded and had a full no trade clause. That limits our trade haul.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The Burns trade laid the framework for Grier to offload Karlsson. That's how I'll justify it.

I feel like this is a fair point and reasonable justification.

 

[mogambomoroo]

True, but it is surprising he has aged as well as he has. That was a lot of the risk in CAR making that deal given his contract runs to age 40.

Even though I get what you mean, I feel like the work ethic of Brent Burns showed signs of him being able to contribute for the whole contract even though it wasn't right for the Sharks timeline.
It's the whole Marleau/Thornton/Pavelski being a role model for Burns, we were lucky to have such a players with really long and productive careers.

 

[one2gamble]

Being overlooked or outright ignored is that Burns wanted to be traded and had a full no trade clause. That limits our trade haul.

I'm going to deny that supposed truth until I die. If you want out, you want out.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Consider that even this season, Burns was not playing up to his contract value.

 

[Alaskanice]

I'm going to deny that supposed truth until I die. If you want out, you want out.

I’m wounded.

 

[Great Makohead Shork]

Anyone else notice the recent influx of Montreal fans trying to pawn off their lesser pieces for our most valuable picks and prospects?

Proposal: - MTL and SJ

Could MTL and SJ be a good trading partner ? MTL is in need of decent forward prospect and SJ Defenseman, MTL : Logan Mailloux for SJ : Quentin Musty Both players have great potential, pretty sure none of them are bust. What do you guys think ?

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Proposal: - MTL x SJS

Pretty simple proposal - would the Sharks entertain a Will Smith for the Habs 1st Rd Pick swap? From SJS's perspective, if they get Celebrini at the draft they will have Eklund/Smith/Celebrini down the middle. With 5-7OA, they can add a top prospect d-man (Levshunov/Parekh) and trade from a...

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Proposal: - SJS MTL

Habs send Dvorak and Anderson to San Jose for Kasper Halttunen. Not a great return....but Habs need the room and San Jose needs players.

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Proposal: - SJS and MTL

MTL 1st currently #5 (2024) MTL 1st 2nd pick(WIN) (2024) D prospect for SJS 1st 2nd pick (2024) SJS 1st Unconditional (2025)

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[Mattb124]

Even though I get what you mean, I feel like the work ethic of Brent Burns showed signs of him being able to contribute for the whole contract even though it wasn't right for the Sharks timeline.
It's the whole Marleau/Thornton/Pavelski being a role model for Burns, we were lucky to have such a players with really long and productive careers.

I get what you are saying, but having good role models doesn't change biology, Very, very few in the NHL play to the age Burns currently is. As of now he will be the 6th oldest player in the NHL when next season starts (99ths percentile).

 

[jMoneyBrah]

Anyone else notice the recent influx of Montreal fans trying to pawn off their lesser pieces for our most valuable picks and prospects?

Proposal: - MTL and SJ

Could MTL and SJ be a good trading partner ? MTL is in need of decent forward prospect and SJ Defenseman, MTL : Logan Mailloux for SJ : Quentin Musty Both players have great potential, pretty sure none of them are bust. What do you guys think ?

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - MTL x SJS

Pretty simple proposal - would the Sharks entertain a Will Smith for the Habs 1st Rd Pick swap? From SJS's perspective, if they get Celebrini at the draft they will have Eklund/Smith/Celebrini down the middle. With 5-7OA, they can add a top prospect d-man (Levshunov/Parekh) and trade from a...

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS MTL

Habs send Dvorak and Anderson to San Jose for Kasper Halttunen. Not a great return....but Habs need the room and San Jose needs players.

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS and MTL

MTL 1st currently #5 (2024) MTL 1st 2nd pick(WIN) (2024) D prospect for SJS 1st 2nd pick (2024) SJS 1st Unconditional (2025)

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My fave is the Will Smith for 5th overall. “Hey, check it out we can trade our brand new 4th overall Will Smith for a 5th overall, and pick a player that if all goes well could be as good as… IDK… a Will Smith type! Sounds great! Sign me up.”

 

[OrrNumber4]

Anyone else notice the recent influx of Montreal fans trying to pawn off their lesser pieces for our most valuable picks and prospects?

Proposal: - MTL and SJ

Could MTL and SJ be a good trading partner ? MTL is in need of decent forward prospect and SJ Defenseman, MTL : Logan Mailloux for SJ : Quentin Musty Both players have great potential, pretty sure none of them are bust. What do you guys think ?

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - MTL x SJS

Pretty simple proposal - would the Sharks entertain a Will Smith for the Habs 1st Rd Pick swap? From SJS's perspective, if they get Celebrini at the draft they will have Eklund/Smith/Celebrini down the middle. With 5-7OA, they can add a top prospect d-man (Levshunov/Parekh) and trade from a...

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS MTL

Habs send Dvorak and Anderson to San Jose for Kasper Halttunen. Not a great return....but Habs need the room and San Jose needs players.

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS and MTL

MTL 1st currently #5 (2024) MTL 1st 2nd pick(WIN) (2024) D prospect for SJS 1st 2nd pick (2024) SJS 1st Unconditional (2025)

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One rarely gets a chance to see such inculcated insipidity.

 

[Shark Finn]

I'm so glad we got to snag Smith at 4th and Habs had to settle for Reinbacher.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

What would be your asking price for Granlund from Utah? You don't have any retention spots left, so there would be limited teams after him and that would show up in price.

Or will he be a pure deadline rental move?

 

[Erep]

What would be your asking price for Granlund from Utah? You don't have any retention spots left, so there would be limited teams after him and that would show up in price.

Or will he be a pure deadline rental move?

Yeah, he won't be moved until the deadline. Pending Smith and, possibly Celebrini, signing he is our only center with any sort of offensive ability, assuming Couture is done. The team can't function right now without him, and even if those two sign, Grier wont want to go into the season with Smith and Celebrini locked into top 6C roles for the whole season.

 

[Shark Finn]

What would be your asking price for Granlund from Utah? You don't have any retention spots left, so there would be limited teams after him and that would show up in price.

Or will he be a pure deadline rental move?

If he keeps up this year's level next year too, he's definitely worth a late 1st at least. But he's proven to be useful and valuable to this Sharks team, both on the score sheet and as a leader. Not sure if he wants to spend the tail end of his career with the Sharks, but I wouldn't be too mad if he was kept around.

 

[Alaskanice]

If Logan doesn’t return, keeping Granlund is paramount. These kids need players such as Granlund and Sturm to look to, to learn good habits from.

 

[Hangemhigh]

Anyone else notice the recent influx of Montreal fans trying to pawn off their lesser pieces for our most valuable picks and prospects?

Proposal: - MTL and SJ

Could MTL and SJ be a good trading partner ? MTL is in need of decent forward prospect and SJ Defenseman, MTL : Logan Mailloux for SJ : Quentin Musty Both players have great potential, pretty sure none of them are bust. What do you guys think ?

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - MTL x SJS

Pretty simple proposal - would the Sharks entertain a Will Smith for the Habs 1st Rd Pick swap? From SJS's perspective, if they get Celebrini at the draft they will have Eklund/Smith/Celebrini down the middle. With 5-7OA, they can add a top prospect d-man (Levshunov/Parekh) and trade from a...

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS MTL

Habs send Dvorak and Anderson to San Jose for Kasper Halttunen. Not a great return....but Habs need the room and San Jose needs players.

forums.hfboards.com

Proposal: - SJS and MTL

MTL 1st currently #5 (2024) MTL 1st 2nd pick(WIN) (2024) D prospect for SJS 1st 2nd pick (2024) SJS 1st Unconditional (2025)

forums.hfboards.com

Most of those posting are probably around 12 years old. It's just fun to speculate.

 

[Juxtaposer]

What would be your asking price for Granlund from Utah? You don't have any retention spots left, so there would be limited teams after him and that would show up in price.

Or will he be a pure deadline rental move?

2nd round pick. If no one meets that price, we’re more than happy to keep him, he’s been excellent and a good mentor to our kids.

 

[Great Makohead Shork]

Most of those posting are probably around 12 years old. It's just fun to speculate.

The oldest post is from March 27 of this year and the most recent was yesterday, which prompted my post. It is fun to speculate, and I thought a few others might get a chuckle out of that speculation.

 

[Jargon]

What would be your asking price for Granlund from Utah? You don't have any retention spots left, so there would be limited teams after him and that would show up in price.

Or will he be a pure deadline rental move?

If it was up to me, you’d have to overpay with a 1st. He’s beloved by the coach, by his teammates, by the fans. He’s been an amazing teacher and vet and we don’t have a ton of those. I’d rather keep him but if someone is willing to give a first, I’d reluctantly give him up. I think he’s worth more to us than other teams though.

 

[Jargon]

Couture thinks he’ll be back next year at full health. It would certainly be nice to have him back.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Couture thinks he’ll be back next year at full health. It would certainly be nice to have him back.

Having Couture healthy would be so, so good especially if Smith ends up signing this summer. Couture could play LW on Smith’s line, take the left side faceoffs for him, and support him defensively when necessary. Plus, he’s smart and skilled enough to work with Smith.

 

[Hangemhigh]

The oldest post is from March 27 of this year and the most recent was yesterday, which prompted my post. It is fun to speculate, and I thought a few others might get a chuckle out of that speculation.

I meant the age of the person posting. So they don't have many frames of reference.