Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Offseason Edition

[Drury_Sakic]

Justin Barron for Newhook would be a sweet deal. Sign Compher, Barron as the 3rd RHD. Win win. That said not sure why the Habs would do that.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

What about a retained Anderson?

He's signed for another four seasons at $5.5M. I can't imagine Habs willing to retain all that much for four seasons, right?

 

[BobRossColton]

Justin Barron for Newhook would be a sweet deal. Sign Compher, Barron as the 3rd RHD. Win win. That said not sure why the Habs would do that.

No then use Barron+ for teravainen

Lehky Nate mikko
TT Johansen nuke

 

[John Mandalorian]

He's signed for another four seasons at $5.5M. I can't imagine Habs willing to retain all that much for four seasons, right?

You might be right. But who else would help the Avs considering where the Avs are at? But alternatively, the Avs might legitimately be in on players in this draft.

 

[Foppa2118]

That Hall trade just looks like the last time he signed in Buffalo. They're bringing in a shiny new toy to generate fan interest and then they'll trade him at the deadline for assets.

 

[Balthazar]

If the Avs trade Newhook to Montreal I bet Joel Armia is involved. He was linked to the Avs before and they are trying to get rid of him. He was a Bergevin guy and had a couple of rough seasons (played on the 4th line, etc).

He's signed for 2 more seasons at 3.4M per. If they are willing to retain a little I'm sure the Avs will be interested.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

If the Avs trade Newhook to Montreal I bet Joel Armia is involved. He was linked to the Avs before and they are trying to get rid of him. He was a Bergevin guy and had a couple of rough seasons (played on the 4th line, etc).

He's signed for 2 more seasons at 3.4M per. If they are willing to retain a little I'm sure the Avs will be interested.

Would rather just keep Newhook and resign JTC if this is the case.

 

[BobRossColton]

If the Avs trade Newhook to Montreal I bet Joel Armia is involved. He was linked to the Avs before and they are trying to get rid of him. He was a Bergevin guy and had a couple of rough seasons (played on the 4th line, etc).

He's signed for 2 more seasons at 3.4M per. If they are willing to retain a little I'm sure the Avs will be interested.

How much retention?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

This was my first thought. Don't love it, but he is another CBus reject that Bednar coached.

Yeah I would hate it but some how I feel like the Avs would have interest in Anderson, mostly for those reasons you mentioned lol.


The issue would be cap. Anderson makes way too much and we cant afford that contract without sending money out or getting retention. And there's no way the Habs would retain on him for 4 more year... at least I dont think. Maybe they retain $1M or something considering by the time they're a playoff team again in ~2-3 years, the cap is likely in the $90M range and $1M is pretty inconsequential at that point.


I could see something around Girard and Anderson however... Where pieces are added on both sides to bridge the value and one of those pieces from the Avs is Newhook.


For example... Anderson($1M retained) + Florida 1st(#31) for Girard + Newhook. Certainly not saying I would like that trade, in fact I'd hate it because I think Anderson is overpaid even at $4.5M and overrated. But that's the kind of deal I could see being discussed if the Avs and Habs are talking.


By the way, Arpon did also mention today that the Habs are interested in bringing local talent(I take this as Quebec players) to the team but they aren't going to go out of there way to make something like that happen... Which is kind of where the Girard to Montreal continues to make some sense IMO.

 

[Foppa2118]

If the Avs trade Newhook to Montreal I bet Joel Armia is involved. He was linked to the Avs before and they are trying to get rid of him. He was a Bergevin guy and had a couple of rough seasons (played on the 4th line, etc).

He's signed for 2 more seasons at 3.4M per. If they are willing to retain a little I'm sure the Avs will be interested.

Armia's career high is 30 points. Newhook's put up 33 and 30, and he's cheaper, and younger.

The only reason to trade Newy is to upgrade the roster. Otherwise might as well keep him, and hope you can get 40 points for around $1-1.5M or so. That's a good production/cap hit ratio.

I suspect he'll probably be traded at some point, but they should pick the right deal, because they don't have many assets to use in trade the next couple years.

 

[Avaholic29]

Can’t believe how many people want to resign JTC, the guy offers absolutely nothing that’s worth over 4m and he’s not taking the same money or less.

 

[Anders Cain]

Armia's career high is 30 points. Newhook's put up 33 and 30, and he's cheaper, and younger.

The only reason to trade Newy is to upgrade the roster. Otherwise might as well keep him, and hope you can get 40 points for around $1-1.5M or so. That's a good production/cap hit ratio.

I suspect he'll probably be traded at some point, but they should pick the right deal, because they don't have many assets to use in trade the next couple years.

This is where I'm at. Ya can't just trade him to trade him

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[henchman21]

To me, the argument can be made that Newhook’s highest remaining value is today. There will be some teams that will convince themselves he can work at their prior evaluation (top 6 guy). Give him another year or two and he doesn’t work, then the value plummets ala Jost. If he succeeds as a 2nd liner, his value might even be less with arbitration risk and money commitment coming.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Then let's bring Pauly Walnuts home on a sweetheart of a deal. He can play 4C and then shift to LW if Meyers gets ready/trusted.

I like this idea, just wonder how much all of the talk of a discount and then signing with STL will prevent that. I think it has at every turn.

 

[hughdreamz]

 

[sethro109]

We never get the big fish. I would love to hear what we offered. I bet it was terrible.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The Habs have a forward prospect who's an absolute puckhound. If the Avs were to take him and a 2nd, I wouldn't complain.

If Bednar is playing Nieto ahead of Newhook in the top 6 of playoff games, it's kind of get what you can while you can.

 

[RockLobster]

Armia's career high is 30 points. Newhook's put up 33 and 30, and he's cheaper, and younger.

The only reason to trade Newy is to upgrade the roster. Otherwise might as well keep him, and hope you can get 40 points for around $1-1.5M or so. That's a good production/cap hit ratio.

I suspect he'll probably be traded at some point, but they should pick the right deal, because they don't have many assets to use in trade the next couple years.

To me it’s more about roster fit. Newhook isn’t taking anyone’s spot in the Top6 (provided Nuke actually returns). And he’s not a real good fit in the bottom 6. More and more it just seems like he’s not a fit on this team.

 

[henchman21]

Elliotte adding Avs to any rumor

 

[RockLobster]

Elliotte adding Avs to any rumor

It is hilarious because like…what value is that adding, you know? It’s not like adding any of the Canadian teams to a rumor and thus getting their attention and all the engagement that comes with that.

 

[avsfan9]

Or you know what? Marner for Karlsson, straight up.

Marner is a better defender then Karlsson!

 

[RockLobster]

And where’s this Basu/Newhook speculation at?

 

[CobraAcesS]

Honestly I respect you as a poster but I literally don't put even an ounce of value on anything you say about JTC.

I dont think I've ever seen someone hold as much of an irrational hatred for a player as you do with JTC.

It completely invalidates anything you say about him quite frankly.

I agree with him lol

 

[BobRossColton]

The Habs have a forward prospect who's an absolute puckhound. If the Avs were to take him and a 2nd, I wouldn't complain.

If Bednar is playing Nieto ahead of Newhook in the top 6 of playoff games, it's kind of get what you can while you can.

Harvey-pinard? Or who is the puckhound?