Pre-Game Talk: 2022 World Junior Hockey Championship

[BlackDogg]

Great point. What was the chance that there would not be an outbreak when you are talking about hundreds of players, organizers, staff etc and no isolation?

You didn't need to be Nostradamus to see that it was virtually guaranteed that there would be an outbreak of some kind. So what was the plan--apart from cancellation. Were there no other options?

Exactly - the chances of four or five positive cases were likely 99.99995 %

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

And don't forget about the variant that will show up in July.

That will be the super deadly one. I mean it this time. You will need your 6th booster for 100% safety.

 

[MoontoScott]

Exactly - the chances of four or five positive cases were likely 99.99995 %

As I continue reading this thread I am shocked to hear that there were other events going on at the hotel(s) and no isolation--what could you possibly expect?

 

[MoontoScott]

That will be the super deadly one. I mean it this time. You will need your 6th booster for 100% safety.

I've already had 3 but fatigue is setting in. There will never be 100% assurance on anything except the carbon tax.

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

Petr Mrazek stonewalling the US is undoubtedly the greatest WJ moment in Edmonton. Considering the history now.

 

[Biltmore]

As I continue reading this thread I am shocked to hear that there were other events going on at the hotel(s) and no isolation--what could you possibly expect?

Yes and especially with Omicron seeming to be much more fast-moving than the previous forms. Just let the young dudes mingle with the wedding guests and the puck-bunnies and assume nothing will happen - pathetic!

 

[BlackDogg]

As I continue reading this thread I am shocked to hear that there were other events going on at the hotel(s) and no isolation--what could you possibly expect?

No doubt, I just assumed it was some sort of bubble with that kind of protocol.

 

[K1984]

Please don’t hold it here. Black cloud around the tourney two straight years, don’t go for the hat trick here.

I'm sure the provincial government will do their best to pull out a useless 11th hour regulation to f*** it all up anyways.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

They absolutely should. But then again, the next variant might cause more asymptomatic cases. Better have a bubble

Just build a rink on the moon and send them all there.

 

[9911]

No doubt, I just assumed it was some sort of bubble with that kind of protocol.

You would have thought that would have been the case. Regardless, given the ridiculous IIHF protocols combined with the transmissibility of this variant, the tournament was doomed. Red Deer seems to be portrayed as the goat regarding the mixing of hockey types with the general population, but what was going on in Edmonton?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

 

[BlackDogg]

Unfortunately I doubt the organizers care.

The more we hear, the more obvious it becomes that this was "designed" to fail.

 

[Biltmore]

Who decided they didn't need to Bubble the teams and based on what?

 

[Oilhawks]

Just build a rink on the moon and send them all there.

I was thinking of that. Or underwater, SeaQuest 2032 style

 

[BlackDogg]

I would suspect, depending on whether they did multiple tests each day using different test lots/brands, that there could have been that many faulty tests even.

 

[MoontoScott]

Just build a rink on the moon and send them all there.

The Sea of Tranquility is a proven spot.

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

I've already had 3 but fatigue is setting in. There will never be 100% assurance on anything except the carbon tax.

Albert Bourla claims 100% effectiveness in adolescents.

 

[Whyme]

If it's not before the draft it's not going be the same. Not that it's quite the same in the summer anyway but seeing the top draft eligible prospects is a big part of the tournament for me. Most players finish their seasons months earlier so it's going to play a part in this too.

 

[Czechboy]

 

[Whyme]

I would suspect, depending on whether they did multiple tests each day using different test lots/brands, that there could have been that many faulty tests even.

Good point, I forgot about this. The most common number that seems to come is that 4% of the PCR tests are false positives. Obviously antigen tests are even more unreliable (though I don't remember the estimate about their false positives). If the number was 1% that would mean there's a false positive in every three teams they test. Doesn't seem like they thought about this too much either.

 

[Czechboy]

 

[Czechboy]

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Because they knew it was going to get a whole lot worse with players sharing hotels with the general public as opposed to having a hotel to themselves to properly isolate in between games.

I think you misunderstand what I meant.

If 4 cases was the line, why did the IIHF go through with the tournament?

There was no point in starting if 4 cases was the stumbling block.

 

[oilers'72]

What I don't understand is that pro and junior teams stay at hotels and motels that aren't isolated from other guests? Blaming the Oilers for this is utterly stupid. The IIHF (and I know there's a couple of apologists here) is fully responsible for this fiasco.

 

[Barrsy]

That will be the super deadly one. I mean it this time. You will need your 6th booster for 100% safety.

Yes. I have the greatest of respect for those who feel no responsibity for their fellow man