2022 NHL Entry Draft Part 4 (#9, #16, #28)

[Hasekperreault23]

Marner was also drafted 4OA so I'm questioning how accurate that list even is.

Gaucher is a very different prospect to Geekie.

Strikes me as a very safe, high floor type of pick but will likely max out as an offensively limited bottom 6 C.

Not necessarily what you might want - but if he's there at 28 he'd be our third pick of the draft & would certainly fill organisational needs.

And tough as hell to play against...take him at 28 though...I would absolutely take Yurov at 16 if he defected lol.iam even starting to warm up to Lekkerimaki at 9.From my eye test he was arguably the best player in tourny then you hear scouting reports and question everything despite what I saw. At the end of the day it's a crap shoot as they are only 17 and tough to project if they level off keep improving etc.Thats why most of the players I always valued were the ones with the strong work ethics.I wanted and loved the Quinn and Cozens picks .That type of player will always play in NHL even if they don't reach their ceiling. My two cents lol

 

[Hasekperreault23]

It's a little more than razor thin for me. I do like Miro more than Yurov, for sure.

I think Miro is probably the 2nd or 3rd most skilled player in this draft........Yurov is probably in that 4-6 area for me.

Good take them both have them defect then 2 defenceman at 28 and 41 then focus on a goalie a vet D and C who is good on faceoffs call it a day lol

We have very little high end skill. It's Quinn and that's it.

Huge Quinn fan but man Peterka in the last month and playoffs played like a young upcoming star

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Huge Quinn fan but man Peterka in the last month and playoffs played like a young upcoming star

reminds me of Milan Hejduk

 

[Dingo44]

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

reminds me of Milan Hejduk

9
Think: Lekkerimaki
Want: Savoie

16
Think: Yurov
Want: Nazar

28
Think: Some D man
Want: Some D man

 

[Ace]

9.
Think Lekkerimaki
Want Savoie but Lekkerimaki works

16.
Think Yurov
Want McGroarty but Yurov works

28.
Think Some D
Want Hutson and will cry when it’s a different one (ill be drunk by then)

 

[jmelm]

In the last 30 years, the best sub-6 foot wingers drafted top 10 are (in order):
Patrick Kane
Sergei Samsonov
Jeff Skinner
Clayton Keller
Michael Boedker
Gilbert Brule
And it gets worse from here.

No position busts in the top ten more frequently than wingers, and shorter wingers bust the most.

Great post! I think it's going to be a few Dmen who step in and go ahead of a lot of the wingers people are projecting, shaking up the consensus.

I think as many as 4 Dmen will go in the top 10: Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski and one of Mintyukov or Pickering.

 

[Matt Ress]

IMO if they've trended it's towards competitiveness no matter size or skills. That thought should ease the minds of Geekie critics.

 

[Zman5778]

9.
Think Lekkerimaki
Want Savoie but Lekkerimaki works

16.
Think Yurov
Want McGroarty but Yurov works

28.
Think Some D
Want Hutson and will cry when it’s a different one (ill be drunk by then)

You and I are basically on the same page here, though I don't particularly care who we get at 9 or 28.

 

[jmelm]

28 maybe

HP doesn't think he's a C at the NHL level. If our scouts also see him as a LW, I'd rather have Lutz or Nyman as far as bigger LWers. Or trade up for Ohgren.

Gaucher is a very different prospect to Geekie.

Strikes me as a very safe, high floor type of pick but will likely max out as an offensively limited bottom 6 C.

Not necessarily what you might want - but if he's there at 28 he'd be our third pick of the draft & would certainly fill organisational needs.

He may not be a C at the NHL level. Sapovaliv would for sure, if we're talking bottom 6 guys.

 

[jmelm]

Pronman's rating is strange. Slaf and Jiricek in the top 2, Wright fourth? What?

This is a good time to remember Pronman isn't a scout

Juraj Slafkovsky leads Corey Pronman's final ranking before the NHL Draft

Corey Pronman ranks the top 131 draft-eligible players in his final list ahead of the 2022 NHL Draft.

theathletic.com

He has Slaf 1, Wright 2, Cooley 3, and Jiricek 4.

I guess he was talking about his latest mock, which is his worst mock yet.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

nice.
All good grit players I guess I was thinking more along "fighters" tough

What year is it?

 

[Ace]

i can’t wait to see if I’m drunk happy or just drunk this time tomorrow night

 

[The Blunder Years]

After liking 5+ prospects at 9, I’ve finally narrowed them down and decided that I want Savoie. If he’s gone than I want Nazar. They’re the two most dynamic forwards in the draft. Savoie looks like Briere reincarnated and I don’t want to pass up on that.

 

[Selanne00008]

In the last 30 years, the best sub-6 foot wingers drafted top 10 are (in order):
Patrick Kane
Sergei Samsonov
Jeff Skinner
Clayton Keller
Michael Boedker
Gilbert Brule
And it gets worse from here.

No position busts in the top ten more frequently than wingers, and shorter wingers bust the most.

I'm not buying it. A couple counter points:

1. people grow - Someone else mentioned it but Mitch Marner was 5'11" at the time of the draft. Why not include him, did he grow out of the filter set? Heck, I am a normal beer league dude and I came back from college at 19 and grew another inch. So these 17 years olds most certainly can still add a couple inches.

2. Smaller players slip in the draft. So, what's the sample size here? St. Louis went undrafted (never knew that). Marchand - 3rd round. Johnny G 4th round. DeBrincat - 2nd round. These are top top players in the league.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

If Wright falls to four…what would it cost to move up from 9?

More than should be paid.

 

[Kublakhan]

Today is the day !!! Wohooo

 

[Old Navy Goat]

I have C&W night out with the 7am wakeup for the start. So my final crystal ball gaze is murky but I'm seeing a Russian influence affecting #9 straight outta Saginaw in Pavel Mintyukov, with 16 they're Czeching out Kulich, then 28 it's clown school with the Firkus circus. 41 satisfies my long lost sugar fix with Swedish fish in Salomonsson

 

[Zach716]

Jeff Skinner has played 853 regular season games and 0 playoff games. Is this an all time record?

Trying to find out if anyone else in NHL history has done this before? Also, will he make it to 1000 games without a playoff game?

hfboards.mandatory.com

Fun fact looks like Skinner probably picks up an all-time stat this year!

 

[Lloydchristmas138]

There should be a bit of a focus on center and D.

9- Gauthier/Nazar/Kasper/Savoie
16-Yurov/Lambert/Mintyukov/Korchinski
28-Hutson/Pickering/Mcgroarty/Kulich
41-Warren/Goyette/Gaucher/Rinzel

Ideally.. for me
9- Gauthier
16- Lambert
28- Hutson
41- Warren

Will be interesting to see what happens with Yurov, though. I’m sure Kemell and Lekkerimaki will be great players but I’m not hoping for them.

 

[Club]

Savoie
Gauthier
Nazar
Kasper


Lek

 

[don22]

Hey, guys. I've seen a few messages scattered around on the implication that Russians are locked in Russia.

Just to be clear, Russia is not stopping any Russians, let a lone hockey players, from leaving the country.

Every male must complete 2 years military training. There are exceptions. You can buy your way out like Kaprizov, which they have seemed to crack down on, or you can get a medical exemption, which doesn't make sense if you are a hockey player.

So, it seems now, there is no getting around the 2 years of military training. I'm not exactly sure how it's broken down, and if it can be completed in the summer, like some other countries.

The most significant issue for me is whether the U.S. will actually give Russians the proper visa. That's what concerns me the most, not military conscription or the war. If the U.S. will force Russians to disavow their country and seek asylum or something of that magnitude, then I don't see any amount of money enticing Russians to come to NA.

Regardless of which Russian prospect you like, I very much believe they will come at a significant bargain.

 

[Fjordy]

Hey, guys. I've seen a few messages scattered around on the implication that Russians are locked in Russia.

Just to be clear, Russia is not stopping any Russians, let a lone hockey players, from leaving the country.

Every male must complete 2 years military training. There are exceptions. You can buy your way out like Kaprizov, which they have seemed to crack down on, or you can get a medical exemption, which doesn't make sense if you are a hockey player.

So, it seems now, there is no getting around the 2 years of military training. I'm not exactly sure how it's broken down, and if it can be completed in the summer, like some other countries.

The most significant issue for me is whether the U.S. will actually give Russians the proper visa. That's what concerns me the most, not military conscription or the war. If the U.S. will force Russians to disavow their country and seek asylum or something of that magnitude, then I don't see any amount of money enticing Russians to come to NA.

Regardless of which Russian prospect you like, I very much believe they will come at a significant bargain.

1 year, not two. Also, exceptions are often made for athletes and they can serve 2-4 weeks instead of one year. It seems that Kaprizov have nothing to do with it at all, it’s just that the media loves hype. Kaprizov will play for Minnesota next season.

 

[alehman42]

Hey, guys. I've seen a few messages scattered around on the implication that Russians are locked in Russia.

Just to be clear, Russia is not stopping any Russians, let a lone hockey players, from leaving the country.

Every male must complete 2 years military training. There are exceptions. You can buy your way out like Kaprizov, which they have seemed to crack down on, or you can get a medical exemption, which doesn't make sense if you are a hockey player.

So, it seems now, there is no getting around the 2 years of military training. I'm not exactly sure how it's broken down, and if it can be completed in the summer, like some other countries.

The most significant issue for me is whether the U.S. will actually give Russians the proper visa. That's what concerns me the most, not military conscription or the war. If the U.S. will force Russians to disavow their country and seek asylum or something of that magnitude, then I don't see any amount of money enticing Russians to come to NA.

Regardless of which Russian prospect you like, I very much believe they will come at a significant bargain.

Hi there, newbie!

Russian military service requirements are publicly researchable, but the situation with Fedotov has made it clear that the Russian gov't is going to enforce that requirement however the f*ck they feel like.

Maybe the player is allowed to play in North America. Or, maybe the player will be drugged and sent to a prison camp in the arctic circle

The issue is *not* whether the US/Canada will require Russians to claim refugee status (seriously, that is a wildly misinformed statement), but whether Putin will allow them to leave Russia at all.

@Fjordy is our resident expert on Russian drama...whatever he says comes from a far more informed place than any of the rest of us.

Edit: and apparently I'm 6 minutes behind @Fjordy

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Hi there, newbie!

Russian military service requirements are publicly researchable, but the situation with Fedotov has made it clear that the Russian gov't is going to enforce that requirement however the f*ck they feel like.

Maybe the player is allowed to play in North America. Or, maybe the player will be drugged and sent to a prison camp in the arctic circle

The issue is *not* whether the US/Canada will require Russians to claim refugee status (seriously, that is a wildly misinformed statement), but whether Putin will allow them to leave Russia at all.

@Fjordy is our resident expert on Russian drama...whatever he says comes from a far more informed place than any of the rest of us.

Edit: and apparently I'm 6 minutes behind @Fjordy

His newbie post has a pro R propaganda bot feel to it. There all over the net now.