2022 NHL Entry Draft Part 4 (#9, #16, #28)

[jc17]

Interestingly there's an article about San Jose's pick in which 2 NHL scouts are asked about the 11th pick, and apparently each indicated that they thought 6 players would defeintely be gone by 11: Wright, Slaf, Cooley, the 2 RDs and Gauthier

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[truthbluth]

Interestingly there's an article about San Jose's pick in which 2 NHL scouts are asked about the 11th pick, and apparently each indicated that they thought 6 players would defeintely be gone by 11: Wright, Slaf, Cooley, the 2 RDs and Gauthier

I’m saying, size is always over drafted. Gauthier could go as high as 3rd.

 

[Jacob582]

Talking about Mirosnichenko on After the Whistle.

How far do people think he will fall in the draft?

 

[Fjordy]

Talking about Mirosnichenko on After the Whistle.

How far do people think he will fall in the draft?

It is difficult to say without full information about his health.

 

[Chainshot]

I thought he was more of a two-way guy in comparison to someone like Peterka. Either way both I expect to be top 6 guys pretty soon.

I may be over-generalizing in terms of shorter/lighter players with an offensive bent to include them all.

 

[Jacob582]

It is difficult to say without full information about his health.

Would you take him at 16 if he were still available?

Assume reasonable probability for full recovery.

 

[Chainshot]

I’m saying, size is always over drafted. Gauthier could go as high as 3rd.

Geekie's getting some love in the top 10 and perhaps the top 5 due in part to his size.

Talking about Mirosnichenko on After the Whistle.

How far do people think he will fall in the draft?

Not sure without having better information on his health first and foremost.

 

[Chainshot]

Would you take him at 16 if he were still available?

Assume reasonable probability for full recovery.

Me personally? No.

 

[Lloydchristmas138]

The players that I will be mad at someone else taking in our range seem like: Lambert, Gauthier, Mcgroarty, Trikozov, Kulich, Ivan M, Yurov and Ostlund.

I’m still not completely off Lambert like most of you. He has the highest potential of any player in this draft if the train can be put back on the tracks. We are loaded with young talent and picks, I’d personally be happy to take that swing even though it’s an unpopular opinion. Scouch seems to think he just needs to be with better players.

Mcgroarty seems like a perfect pick at 16, he also seems like someone teams might fall in love with and draft him higher. If Buffalo loves him what’s even stopping Adams from taking him at 9.

I’d also love to be the team that adds Ivan M at a bargain pick. Trikozov seems to be a guy that internet scouts continually love.

Nazar/Kemell/Lekkerimaki just kind of seem like more of what we already have.

Can’t wait for the draft

 

[Zach716]

It is difficult to say without full information about his health.

I'm interested in why he was denied entry to NA twice now.

 

[Zach716]

I’m still not completely off Lambert like most of you. He has the highest potential of any player in this draft if the train can be put back on the tracks.

I disagree. A lot of people like to associate high risk with high reward when there are plenty of guys who have just as much reward with a helluva lot less risk in our ranges.

 

[js31]

I'm interested in why he was denied entry to NA twice now.

I've seen mentions (not sure about the validity) of Miroshnichenko training in Buffalo in the past. Anyone have any info on that?

 

[Fjordy]

Would you take him at 16 if he were still available?

Assume reasonable probability for full recovery.

Probably not, but I would consider choosing Florida and our second.

I'm interested in why he was denied entry to NA twice now.

It's a riddle

 

[Lloydchristmas138]

I honestly would consider Mcgroarty/Gauthier at 9 for your safe pick, then take a swing on Lambert/Trikozov/Ostlund if they’re available at 16. Lot of rankings might have these players ranked the opposite way.

 

[Fjordy]

I've seen mentions (not sure about the validity) of Miroshnichenko training in Buffalo in the past. Anyone have any info on that?

Yes, he had already been to the USA before and trained there, as he himself says on a tourist visa. He himself does not understand why he was not given a visa, this is strange.

 

[Der Jaeger]

@Rowley Birkin posted this is the last thread, and it can't be replied to.

You keep regurgitating a variation of this same post. I've read it 100x before.

Moving forward - this team's 'top 9' centres will be some combination of :

-Thompson (1st round pick, just had a breakout season where he emerged as a legit '1C')
-Cozens (Top 10 pick)
-Krebs (1st round pick - would have been top 10 if it wasn't for injury)
-Mittlestadt (Top 10 pick)

It's possible these are our four centres but i like a defensive specialist in there somewhere.

All of these guys are 24 or under.

Why not just come out and say you want to use first round picks on centres every single year otherwise you hate it? Talent and or need be damned. Because that's what you are constantly arguing for.

The fact that you so passionately wanted Beniers over Power shows just how blinkered you are when it comes to this.

Yes, I keep bring up facts. Because they inform opinions and, for those that make them, decisions.

It wasn't long ago that the Sabres were set moving forward with RHD: Ristolainen, Bogosian, Montour, Miller, with Borgen on the way. That was fact as recent as spring of 2020, just two years ago. Once Miller leaves as a free agent, every player is gone. So, to think a team is ever good moving forward is folly.

I've posted here for a while now, not as long as you but long enough to set a fairly easy to discern trend.
2012: I wanted Filip Forsberg
2013: Elias Lindholm
2014: Reinhart, and then wanted a trade up with all the 2nd rounders to take Tuch
2015: Eichel, and before the trades, Colin White and Christian Fischer
2016: Sergachev, McAvoy, or Chychrun
2017: really wanted Makar to drop but thought Valimaki should've been the pick
2018: Dahlin
2019: wanted Turcotte to fall, and then wanted Zegras
2020: Lundell
2021: Beniers

Do I advocate for centers a lot? Yep. Because of the facts that I keep bringing up. But in the last 10 drafts, I also wanted a few wingers and some defenders too, for various reasons distinct to each draft.

As far as wanting Beniers over Power, that's such a non-point. In drafts where there's not a slam-dunk #1 overall, there are plenty of folks who advocate for other prospects. Advocating for the consensus #2 over the consensus #1 as being an issue is a stretch. Cory Pronman did it this week by putting Slafkovsky as his #1 prospect. Steve Kournianos at The Draft Analyst put Svechnikov over Dahlin, and Dahlin was a slam-dunk #1.

The alternate theory is that I look at historical trends, the Sabres' needs, and the current draft, and form an opinion. Which the history shows.

 

[Fjordy]

 

[Faceboner]

I've seen mentions (not sure about the validity) of Miroshnichenko training in Buffalo in the past. Anyone have any info on that?

Corey mickey, damn i used to train with that guy

 

[jc17]

I’m still not completely off Lambert like most of you. He has the highest potential of any player in this draft if the train can be put back on the tracks. We are loaded with young talent and picks, I’d personally be happy to take that swing even though it’s an unpopular opinion. Scouch seems to think he just needs to be with better players.

Mcgroarty seems like a perfect pick at 16, he also seems like someone teams might fall in love with and draft him higher. If Buffalo loves him what’s even stopping Adams from taking him at 9.

I keep going back and forth on Lambert. Today's a day I'm in favor of taking the risk, but that could change.
I like Rutger too. Anyone have issues with his skating though?

 

[truthbluth]

I keep going back and forth on Lambert. Today's a day I'm in favor of taking the risk, but that could change.
I like Rutger too. Anyone have issues with his skating though?

It’s been discussed. Basically, his skating is poor because he has very poor technique. But, he’s from Nebraska and probably didn’t meet a real skating coach until he got to Plymouth. He’s not really heavy footed, he’s actually very athletic and twitchy. It’s like his feet are moving but getting him nowhere. Seems like a good candidate to dramatically improve skating with proper coaching. To that end, it seems he’s been training with Barb Underhill, who worked with the leafs and lightning in the past.

tldr; his current skating wouldn’t keep me from drafting him at 9 let alone 16.

 

[Fjordy]

I would not have chosen Lambert at 9, at 16 you might think, but I'm more worried that he is completely dependent on his father, Adams is unlikely to want such a player in the organization, especially since there were already problems with Nylander.

 

[jc17]

I imagine the interview is big for Lambert.

The interviews I've heard, he comes across as a little spacey. In one, he says he moved to Pelicans because they lost a player, and wanted him. I thought the prevailing opinion was that he initiated the move.

 

[Chainshot]

I would not have chosen Lambert at 9, at 16 you might think, but I'm more worried that he is completely dependent on his father, Adams is unlikely to want such a player in the organization, especially since there were already problems with Nylander.

Which is wear the interviews with him (and with the people around his different club teams in the Liiga, etc....) are important. Right now, we just don't know how that's going to shake out.

 

[HaNotsri]

I would not have chosen Lambert at 9, at 16 you might think, but I'm more worried that he is completely dependent on his father, Adams is unlikely to want such a player in the organization, especially since there were already problems with Nylander.

This gets me every time. William took a team friendly deal in Toronto.

Michael was a great leader and always took part in the WC when he could which is huge in Sweden. Especially at the time when hockey was still popular. When Forsberg and Sundin struggled Nylander was truly clutch.

How come the Nylander's have such a poor reputation in america? I really don't understand it.

How mych of a headache can a parent like Lambert's be, really?

 

[debaser66]

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Why is it that or pick is 32 on the simulator? Its 28 now isn't it?