GWT: 2022-23 - English Domestic Cups (FA/Carabao)

[Power Man]

Wow…

 

[KJS14]

Rashford is the Jayson Tatum of football

At least Rashford hasn't been quoted saying "humbly I'm one of the best players in the world" after bricking every shot for 3 quarters. Tatum gets a lot of credit for scoring in bunches and being awful for large stretches.

-- a disgruntled 76ers fan

 

[Power Man]

At least Rashford hasn't been quoted saying "humbly I'm one of the best players in the world" after bricking every shot for 3 quarters. Tatum gets a lot of credit for scoring in bunches and being awful for large stretches.

-- a disgruntled 76ers fan

Aye sorry mate

Tatum is a Kobe fan, no wonder he is an inconsistent chucker

 

[hatterson]

Honestly United kept City in far better check than I expected them to. But Gundogan was too good at times and United didn't create much of danger.

 

[OKR]

And he also probably has made the most saves since then.

So literally inconsistent…

 

[The Abusement Park]

He is 2nd in mistakes leading to goals in PL since 2016, that absolutely screams ”consistant” to you?
And I don’t know how anyone can say he is good in the air with a straight face.

I'd like to see the source and see who number 1 is as well.

 

[hatterson]

So literally inconsistent…

Consistency is overrated.

On net, De Gea made a massive positive difference in United's fortunes over the top 5-8 years. Easily top 5 in the world in terms of net impact over his peak period.

I'd like to see the source and see who number 1 is as well.

And a comparison of minutes played since then. How many keepers have been locked in starters for those 7-8 years?

 

[Jussi]

Honestly United kept City in far better check than I expected them to. But Gundogan was too good at times and United didn't create much of danger.

United's lack of depth cost any chance of better challenging for the win. Antony injured, Martial injured. There's no threat from the bench what so ever.

xG:Man City (1.22) 2-1 (1.89) Man Utd

 

[Gecklund]

So literally inconsistent…

That’s not what that means. And the fact that you can’t see that just shows how horrible of an argument you have. Also the fact that you literally have Arsenal fans defending De Gea should also show you that you’re just wrong.

 

[SSF]

Who was that that ETH just embraced after picking up his medal?

 

[SSF]

Haha Scott Carson in line ahead of Ortega

 

[The Abusement Park]

Consistency is overrated.

On net, De Gea made a massive positive difference in United's fortunes over the top 5-8 years. Easily top 5 in the world in terms of net impact over his peak period.



And a comparison of minutes played since then. How many keepers have been locked in starters for those 7-8 years?

Yup. I imagine DDG and #1 are probably top 2 because they’ve played the most minutes. And even then DDG’s will mostly concentrated in the last few years, when he’s faced the steepest drop off in his ability.

 

[Jussi]

I'd like to see the source and see who number 1 is as well.

This season Lloris had 4 and topped the list, De Gea had 2: Premier League Player Stats - Errors leading to goal

2019-20 De Gea had 3, Dubravka lead the stat with 5.

2018-19 De Gea had 4, Begovic and Leno had 5 each.

2017-18 Begovic had 5

2017-17 De Gea had 1.

Career wise De Gea has 17 errors, Begovic had 27.

 

[luiginb]

There's no threat from the bench what so ever.

Ehh Garnacho was more threatening than anyone else on United today. Sancho is just done.

 

[OKR]

That’s not what that means. And the fact that you can’t see that just shows how horrible of an argument you have. Also the fact that you literally have Arsenal fans defending De Gea should also show you that you’re just wrong.

Yeah, Arsenal fans on HFboards is a better argument that Premier League stats

Defenition of consistency is :
”the quality of always behaving or performing in a similar way, or of always happening in a similar way”

So him stopping a team entirely while being world class in some games while also making the most mistakes doesn’t mean he is inconsistent?

I'd like to see the source and see who number 1 is as well.

Number one is Pickford, and the source is Premier Leagues homesite.

 

[koyvoo]

Easy on the champagne until the Cl final

 

[Jussi]

Number one is Pickford, and the source is Premier Leagues homesite.

Yes, Pickford has 16 errors starting from the 2016-17 season. 18 overall.

What is also evident from those stats is that De Gea's gone multiple seasons without errors in that time period.

 

[maclean]

Losing Gundogan is honestly going to be a bigger deal than I think a lot of us appreciate right now. He's been unreal the last few seasons.

A midfield with him and Odegaard would be such a dream, but I'm trying to keep my hopes in check, figure Barca is a lot more likely. Nice to be in the conversation though lol

 

[Power Man]

Mahrez liked one of my tweets today (and I didn’t even tag him)

I can finally retire from Twitter

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

De Gea was overrated insofar as some people claimed he was the best keeper in the world at the same time as Neuer was having a generational peak and lapping the field.

I think his flash and dramatic saves also led to him getting overrated vis-a-vis other less sexy keepers (specifically Courtois IMO).

But there’s no doubt that, for a sustained period, he was a world class keeper. I’d have him as the third best of the 2010s behind the other two I’ve mentioned here.

 

[The Abusement Park]

De Gea was overrated insofar as some people claimed he was the best keeper in the world at the same time as Neuer was having a generational peak and lapping the field.

I think his flash and dramatic saves also led to him getting overrated vis-a-vis other less sexy keepers (specifically Courtois IMO).

But there’s no doubt that, for a sustained period, he was a world class keeper. I’d have him as the third best of the 2010s behind the other two I’ve mentioned here.

Fair take. I've been on record saying that he would have a drastic fall off due to his play style, in that his diving and reflexes would obviously be the first to go and his game is super reliant on that. I didn't take into account the evolution the position would go through that would be the ultimate reason of his demise. Definitely not the best goalie of his generation, but an easy pick at being a top 5 guy and a very obvious world class player during his peak and prime.

 

[bluesfan94]

De Gea also has literally gave them points in a ton of games over those seasons. For a goal keeper, being world class at shot stopping sure as f*** makes you a world class keeper. That’s the entire damn position.

Not arguing re de gea but there’s a lot more to the position that shot stopping, especially in the modern game

 

[Gecklund]

Not arguing re de gea but there’s a lot more to the position that shot stopping, especially in the modern game

We aren’t talking about the modern game. The guys claim was that De Gea was never world class

 

[The Abusement Park]

Not arguing re de gea but there’s a lot more to the position that shot stopping, especially in the modern game

Hence his drastic drop off. At his peak keepers were far less involved than they are now.

 

[les Habs]

I’d have him as the third best of the 2010s

To each their own, but no thanks.