2021 Roster Thread XV - Where everyone is in agreement about what is needed

[deadhead]

Kimmo Timonen says he wants to coach, help bring Stanley Cup to Philly

That was 6 years ago, and he didn't want to jump into it right away.

And I sorta want to be a Presidential advisor.

If he's settled into his hometown with million in the bank and multiple restaurants/bars, me thinks he's pursuing a different career path, one where "assistant coach" probably isn't that attractive.

 

[FlyerNutter]

One will never prove me wrong that the piece of advice most frequently given by any of these “coaches” is to PLAY HARDER.

The man with the personality of a turnip, hires another turnip. Shocking.

 

[trostol]

 

[mja]

And I sorta want to be a Presidential advisor.

If he's settled into his hometown with million in the bank and multiple restaurants/bars, me thinks he's pursuing a different career path, one where "assistant coach" probably isn't that attractive.

I provided no commentary, just answered someone's question. Yes, he has in the past expressed an interest in coaching. Yes, with the Flyers. It's been quite a while though and at the time he wasn't ready. He may well have / probably has moved on.

 

[deadhead]

He actually still lives in Haddonfield and frequents Haddonfield places from what I've heard

Well, there is this.

Former Flyer Timonen To Present Clinic In Haddonfield - that was 3/27/19

Don't have a date on this:

Kimmo Timonen's House in Haddonfield, NJ (Google Maps)

Kimmo is co-owner of KalPa.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Well, there is this.

Former Flyer Timonen To Present Clinic In Haddonfield - that was 3/27/19

Don't have a date on this:

Kimmo Timonen's House in Haddonfield, NJ (Google Maps)

Kimmo is co-owner of KalPa.

Little more recent

Kings Road Brewing working with Two Flyers Legends on a Special Pilsner Beer for the Playoffs.

And yes KalPa plays in Kuopio

 

[04hockey]

What did Fletch do?

He did trade 26 yr old Brett Burns who went on to win a Norris Trophy

He'll trade Provy for Calgary's Gaudreau and a 5th rd. pick

Flyers will be faster, score a few more goals but will be outscored by 2/3 goals every game while their Dmen COMBINED can't play D .

It'll be exciting tho' watch Johnny and Razzmatazz flying around playing their playground hockey.....

just NEVER check the standings OR the Flyers Goals Against ..... EVER

 

[baudib1]

Chris Stewart isn't white enough to get promoted by the Flyers.

 

[Magua]

I’ll say this about Hextall: he was creative in his hires. Yes, the actual people hired had the creativity of door knobs, but the process was undoubtedly not insular. Hiring the first college coach since Herb Brooks; hiring a young, top CHL coach. Not defending the hires, or the hockey philosophies, but the process.

If the criticism was the Flyers were no longer an Old Boys Club, Fletcher is doing exactly what he was hired to do: keep it in the family. With the exception of Alain, which was still an unimaginative hire that just selected the highest paid biggest name retread, you have Alain’s BFF, Fletcher’s long time Wild coach, Lappy shuffled around again, Fletcher’s long time defenseman, Terry Murray’s corpse. Even the Habsburgs are like, “Kinda incestuous, yeah?”

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Kimmo Timonen says he wants to coach, help bring Stanley Cup to Philly

That was 6 years ago, and he didn't want to jump into it right away.

Kind of depressing to know he intended to come back.. No way he wants to with the current management. Kimmo’s hockey IQ > the entire coaching staff combined

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I’ll say this about Hextall: he was creative in his hires. Yes, the actual people hired had the creativity of door knobs, but the process was undoubtedly not insular. Hiring the first college coach since Herb Brooks; hiring a young, top CHL coach. Not defending the hires, or the hockey philosophies, but the process.

If the criticism was the Flyers were no longer an Old Boys Club, Fletcher is doing exactly what he was hired to do: keep it in the family. With the exception of Alain, which was still an unimaginative hire that just selected the highest paid biggest name retread, you have Alain’s BFF, Fletcher’s long time Wild coach, Lappy shuffled around again, Fletcher’s long time defenseman, Terry Murray’s corpse. Even the Habsburgs are like, “Kinda incestuous, yeah?”

That's part of the reason why I'm surprised many still don't care for Hexy...Hakstol definitely was around too long, but I assumed many here would like the fact that Hextall tried something different for a change. Didn't kowtow to higher management or Alums (which he is one himself, of course).

I guess the answer is obvious that we just aren't happy when we're losing or mediocre, but that's one element where I think I expected more love for Hexy.

 

[Rebels57]

Kind of depressing to know he intended to come back.. No way he wants to with the current management. Kimmo’s hockey IQ > the entire coaching staff combined

This is why we need Briere as our next GM.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I'd rather employ someone with zero ties to the organization.

 

[Irwin]

Currently Kimmo is busy with:

- Multiple restaurants and bars located on Kuopio as mentioned

- Successfull podcast in Finland with the most known Finnish NHL commentator (I think he occasionally does some play by play. He joins to the studio stuff via video as well)

- Multiple charities in Finland and in the US through his own charity org

- Most importantly, family. They are definitely migrated to their local community after living abroad for 15+ years

I'm sure he enjoys the time spent with multiple endeavours. Focusing on Lehigh Valley or any development role would take so much time, is he willing to invest? Won't blame him if he does not feel like it ATM, seems like an interesting time in his life.

Personally, I would not put my hopes up in seeing him behind the bench other than junior or peewee hockey in his community and in the summer camps.

 

[Rebels57]

I'd rather employ someone with zero ties to the organization.

Probably for the best. I just like the idea of Briere though with absolutely nothing but emotion to back it up.

 

[Magua]

That's part of the reason why I'm surprised many still don't care for Hexy...Hakstol definitely was around too long, but I assumed many here would like the fact that Hextall tried something different for a change. Didn't kowtow to higher management or Alums (which he is one himself, of course).

I guess the answer is obvious that we just aren't happy when we're losing or mediocre, but that's one element where I think I expected more love for Hexy.

Well, if you’re expecting love for hiring Hakstol, good luck. I don’t think anyone disliked that Hextall pulled from way outside the organization in his hires. The problem was they proved to be duds real fast — although Knoblauch was still unknown and probably had a case for an AHL role, but when you have Scott Gordon (a Hextall hire to be fair)....

Hextall was exhaustive in his search for bland and mediocre talent in the player and coaching ranks. But at a certain point, it became quite obvious he was bland and mediocre himself as a hockey mind. I praise his not inwards thinking process, but this total overcompensation towards the Old Boy Regime was inevitable when he didn’t produce results.

 

[Lindberg]

Quite a bit of turd polishing for Hextall going on.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Well, if you’re expecting love for hiring Hakstol, good luck. I don’t think anyone disliked that Hextall pulled from way outside the organization in his hires. The problem was they proved to be duds real fast — although Knoblauch was still unknown and probably had a case for an AHL role, but when you have Scott Gordon (a Hextall hire to be fair)....

Hextall was exhaustive in his search for bland and mediocre talent in the player and coaching ranks. But at a certain point, it became quite obvious he was bland and mediocre himself as a hockey mind. I praise his not inwards thinking process, but this total overcompensation towards the Old Boy Regime was inevitable when he didn’t produce results.

I'm not asking for love for hiring Hakstol specifically, but rather him doing something different than what we had been doing (in both his coaching hires, information spreading & his team-building strategy).

I don't quite agree on mediocrity in players, but that horse has been beaten to death and this offseason is probably the worst time to defend him on that as most of his choices had terrible years this past year.

 

[Curufinwe]

Do you guys think it's a coincidence that Yzerman built Tampa, Sakic built Colorado, meanwhile the Flyers have had a never-ending string of plugs, grinders, goalies and goons as coaches and GMs for decades?

It does seem like one considering ancient goalie Jim Rutherford won two Cups in Pittsburgh.

 

[Curufinwe]

Nope. No chance. He's a f***ing bum collecting his paycheck until he's fired. What does he care? He's set for life.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he cares if he gets fired. Like any other GM.

 

[flyerslducks]

Actually Schultz is exactly the kind of former player you hire as a coach, one who maximized his limited talent through his understanding of the game.
He had a 15 year NHL career, nothing to sneeze at given his limitations.

Yes, I'd prefer Kimmo, but I doubt he's interested.

Why do you always defend shitty moves

 

[Rebels57]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he cares if he gets fired. Like any other GM.

If he's fired today he likely doesn't have to work another day in his life... and you can tell this by the complete lack of effort he has put into the majority of his hires.

 

[Curufinwe]

If he's fired today he likely doesn't have to work another day in his life

Which is irrelevant. Sakic and Yzerman made much more money than Fletcher as former star players, but they don't want to get fired. So did Hextall, and Hexy definitely cared when he got fired.

 

[Rebels57]

Which is irrelevant. Sakic and Yzerman made much more money than Fletcher as former star players, but they don't want to get fired. So did Hextall, and Hexy definitely cared when he got fired.

Some are more competitive and passionate than others.

But let's for a second pretend he does care and is deeply invested in the success of this franchise. The hires and player acquisitions (especially at the AHL level) just tell us the issue is incompetence rather than how much he cares.

Either way, we aren't sitting pretty right now.

 

[BernieParent]

Well, if you’re expecting love for hiring Hakstol, good luck. I don’t think anyone disliked that Hextall pulled from way outside the organization in his hires. The problem was they proved to be duds real fast — although Knoblauch was still unknown and probably had a case for an AHL role, but when you have Scott Gordon (a Hextall hire to be fair)....

Hextall was exhaustive in his search for bland and mediocre talent in the player and coaching ranks. But at a certain point, it became quite obvious he was bland and mediocre himself as a hockey mind. I praise his not inwards thinking process, but this total overcompensation towards the Old Boy Regime was inevitable when he didn’t produce results.

Exactly what I was thinking. I was initially pleased but am extra angry that Hextall's selection is armour plating against having to do any outside-the-FO hiring. "An NCAA coach??!?! Nooo, we tried that once ..."