Rumor: 2021-22 Trade Rumours and FA Part II: Should we trade Girard or not ? Part 45

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nammerus

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Pretty average numbers for such a run.

When you’re SV% was sub .900 before, anything above that looks good.

And even with that run…he’s still one of the worst starters in the league. Just below the illustrious Koskinen.

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When you’re SV% was sub .900 before, anything above that looks good.

And even with that run…he’s still one of the worst starters in the league. Just below the illustrious Koskinen.

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It's kind of funny that the three names that were talked about the most last year (Kuemper, Grubs, and Merzlikins) are in the bottom 10 of starters this year.
 

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The other important thing to note is that Kuemper, not only is with a different team (although I don’t think that has a huge effect when the team you’re going to is better) but he’s also working with Parkilla. We’d need a shout out from @Gigantor The Goalie to give us an assessment on if he sees any differences in Kuempers style from when he played in Arizona. Challenging more or less, different positioning, stance, etc. That can have a monstrous effect because you’re doing your best to not fall into previous habits.
 

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Honestly I think we’re able to handle our off-season issues okay if we make some smart moves. Trade JTC and Jost, buyout EJ. Savings of $9.5m less $3m in replacements for a total savings of $6.5m.

Re-sign Nuke 6 years by $4m
Re-sign JJ 1 year league min
Re-sign E. Johnson 1 year $1.5m (see Micheal Stone for reference)
Sign Forsberg 7 years $7.5m
Sign Hertl 7 years $7.5m
Spend a total of $7.5m on goalies.

Sign Maltsev, Bowers and NAK for an average of $850K. Give Kaut, Olausson and Ranta all a shot at the third line.

Landy-MacK-Rantanen
Forsberg-Hertl-Nuke
Ranta-Newhook-LOC
Maltsev-Bowers -NAK
Toews-Makar
Byram-Girard
JJ-EJ
Keumper $5.5
Backup $2m

Total cap space $2.1m with players making around league min.

That bottom 6 is disgusting. Like lottery team cringeworthy. Maltsev, Bowers and Ranta are not NHL players.

-Keep JTC.
-Keep EJ at his contract. He won't be bought out.
-Give the 7.5 mil to Kadri. He is far superior to Hertl
-Say no to Forsberg at 7.5 mil. Give 5 x 5 to Burakovsky and 5 x 4.75m to Nuke
Re-sign Kuemper 3 x 4.5 and Francouz 2 x 2

Trade Sam Girard and Tyson Jost to Arizona for Jakob Chychrun and Lawson Crouse. Resign Crouse 2 x 1.750

500k in cap space.

Landeskog- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Nichushkin- Kadri- Burakovsky
Crouse- Newhook- O'Connor
MacDermid- Compher- Aube Kubel

Toews - Makar
Byram - Chychryn
Barron - EJ

Kuemper
Francouz
 

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That bottom 6 is disgusting. Like lottery team cringeworthy. Maltsev, Bowers and Ranta are not NHL players.

-Keep JTC.
-Keep EJ at his contract. He won't be bought out.
-Give the 7.5 mil to Kadri. He is far superior to Hertl
-Say no to Forsberg at 7.5 mil. Give 5 x 5 to Burakovsky and 5 x 4.75m to Nuke
Re-sign Kuemper 3 x 4.5 and Francouz 2 x 2

Trade Sam Girard and Tyson Jost to Arizona for Jakob Chychrun and Lawson Crouse. Resign Crouse 2 x 1.750

500k in cap space.

Landeskog- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Nichushkin- Kadri- Burakovsky
Crouse- Newhook- O'Connor
MacDermid- Compher- Aube Kubel

Toews - Makar
Byram - Chychryn
Barron - EJ

Kuemper
Francouz
And why again does Arizona trade a young left handed defensemen for a young left handed defensemen while significantly downgrading from Crouse to Jost?
 

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If this is what Kuemper gives the team during the playoffs the Avs are done. There will be games when the goalie needs to win the game, even the ridiculously stacked Lightning team won games on goaltending.
 

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If this is what Kuemper gives the team during the playoffs the Avs are done. There will be games when the goalie needs to win the game, even the ridiculously stacked Lightning team won games on goaltending.

First don’t leave Girard to defend in front of the goalie. Then evaluate Kuemper’s performance.
 

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Girard for Connor?
I love Kyle Connor more than most but that’s just not what we need for the playoffs. He’s a great sniper/goal scorer but We’ve got the highest scoring team (goals per game wise) in the league by a significant margin (almost .4 more than the next team).

The biggest issue is the PK and our inability to win key draws when we need it. We also could use a guy that scores unskilled, scrappy and dirty goals in front of the net. That’s playoff hockey and where we’ll miss Saad the most.

The guy to target (once again) is Pageau. He ticks all the boxes on what we truly need. Send G to the Isles, get Pageau and then find a serviceable dman that could play PK and we win the Cup no doubt in my mind.
 

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Nuke-Kadri-Bura
JTC-Pageau-LOC
NAK-Newhook-Helm

Toews-Makar
Byram-EJ
Serviceable Dman-JJ/Murray

That’d easily be the best/deepest team we’ve ever iced and fix essentially all our flaws.
 

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Trade Makar now while people are still thinking about last nights OT goal. Trade him for defensive depth and a goalie to play in a tandem with Kuemper.
 
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First don’t leave Girard to defend in front of the goalie. Then evaluate Kuemper’s performance.
I question what he’s actually good at, he doesn’t generate a ton of offence and struggles in his own end winning board battles and in front of the net. Do we seriously pay him 5M to skate pucks out of the zone?
 

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I question what he’s actually good at, he doesn’t generate a ton of offence and struggles in his own end winning board battles and in front of the net. Do we seriously pay him 5M to skate pucks out of the zone?

Wait til the PO’s. Then you’ll see his true value..
 

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Lol. Do you know what a defenceman job is?

LOL. Too bad he didn’t perform that task competently. Like lift Toews’ stick at a minimum.

BTW, have you noticed how much Ryan Graves’ hockey IQ has dropped since moving to the Devils? Graves has played in 29 games this season. His +/- is ‘0’! LOL! Real shrewd assessment you made there JH21.
 
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