2021/2022 Fantasy Draft Discussion Thread

[emptyNedder]

Without turning this into too much of a theoretical exercise (which I admittedly tend to do), I am interested in what others are trying to do with their lineups.

My thoughts

• It is impossible to build a Tampa/Colorado type team (all of Hedman, Point, Vasilevsky, Kucherov, Stamkos are typically gone in round 1 and 2; the same with MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Landeskog)
• Given that, I used NYI as an approximate model (a lot of hockey media and posters here have argued that the Islanders were the closest to Tampa this playoff)
• An emphasis on two-way play, especially penalty-killing was my goal
• Finding a good mix of young players (with potential to find another level this coming season) and veteran players with consistent performance for several years
• Trying to determine complementary lines/pairings
• Using subjective (award voting) and objective (GF/GA 60, SHG, PIM) measures to validate the best picks after the first few rounds

 

[DatsyukianDekes13]

• Any player who had a contract for the 2020-2021 season

This is what it says under eligible players. Even a rookie like Seider had a contract for the 2020-21 season, so would any expiring UFA. Raymond however, signed a couple months ago I believe. Capfriendly doesnt have him listed as having a contract for 2020/21. Up to HN I guess, but I thought he wasnt eligible or else I would have picked him.

"The Detroit Red Wings today signed left wing Lucas Raymond to a three-year entry-level contract beginning with the 2021-22 season". This is what I found, just for extra clarification on when it starts. I dont think Raymond is eligible, unless I am missing something.

 

[DatsyukianDekes13]

The Edmonton Oilers select:

Lucas Raymond

...

Please PM for me

@McMozesmadness got confirmation from the commisioner, Raymond is exempt if you wanna repick

 

[McMozesmadness]

I thought anyone who had a contract going into next year when the game started was eligible... I can pick again

 

[Llamamoto]

Without turning this into too much of a theoretical exercise (which I admittedly tend to do), I am interested in what others are trying to do with their lineups.

My thoughts

• It is impossible to build a Tampa/Colorado type team (all of Hedman, Point, Vasilevsky, Kucherov, Stamkos are typically gone in round 1 and 2; the same with MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Landeskog)
• Given that, I used NYI as an approximate model (a lot of hockey media and posters here have argued that the Islanders were the closest to Tampa this playoff)
• An emphasis on two-way play, especially penalty-killing was my goal
• Finding a good mix of young players (with potential to find another level this coming season) and veteran players with consistent performance for several years
• Trying to determine complementary lines/pairings
• Using subjective (award voting) and objective (GF/GA 60, SHG, PIM) measures to validate the best picks after the first few rounds

SHG and PIMs can hardly determine which picks were good in the 1st round.

Look at useful things like points, xGF%, etc.

 

[Ainec]

SHG and PIMs can hardly determine which picks were good in the 1st round.

Look at useful things like points, xGF%, etc.

Those are bad too. Best resource is the Goat's final ranking. Predicted the winner and finalist every year, and also got teams in the playoffs that were obviously better but missed due to politics. Next season always reveals this

 

[hockeynorth]

I thought anyone who had a contract going into next year when the game started was eligible... I can pick again

it's 2020-2021 contracts makes you eligible

 

[Nucker101]

Those are bad too. Best resource is the Goat's final ranking. Predicted the winner and finalist every year, and also got teams in the playoffs that were obviously better but missed due to politics. Next season always reveals this

xgf% on its own is flawed, but it's good to look at if you know what else to look at for context, plus you need to account for things like actual playmaking/shooting talent.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I picked a guy in the 15th round that was worth the 13th OA, a 2nd and a player drafted in the 2nd.

If that doesn't bump my points up, nothing will.

 

[m0pe]

Nobody steal Sabres legend Robert Hagg from me please.

 

[hockeynorth]

I picked a guy in the 15th round that was worth the 13th OA, a 2nd and a player drafted in the 2nd.

If that doesn't bump my points up, nothing will.

GOAT

 

[Ainec]

I picked a guy in the 15th round that was worth the 13th OA, a 2nd and a player drafted in the 2nd.

If that doesn't bump my points up, nothing will.

I concede first round to you good sir

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I concede first round to you good sir

Still a way to go yet. You don't win games with 15/16 players.

 

[Ainec]

Still a way to go yet. You don't win games with 15/16 players.

I drafted well but you drafted better

it's over

 

[Makaveli]

wow you guys are still going strong eh

 

[m0pe]

wow you guys are still going strong eh

miss u mak

 

[Makaveli]

miss u mak

I'll be back one day

 

[Panda Bear]

bobrovsky never gone more than two seasons without rebounding. did it in 12-13 and 16-17, gonna do it in 21-22. not even carey price age yet.

I know some of you meme him, but he's goaltender with highest legitimate upside available at this point

 

[Ainec]

bobrovsky never gone more than two seasons without rebounding. did it in 12-13 and 16-17, gonna do it in 21-22. not even carey price age yet.

I know some of you meme him, but he's goaltender with highest legitimate upside available at this point

DeSmith better
Gustavsson

 

[Panda Bear]

as discussed on discord, real life GM's are dumb af

we would have cancelled that risto trade, Buch trade and others for being too f***ing awful and unrealistic

we also wouldn't have signed #4s like Oleksiak to a $4.6mx4 deal or a third liner like Goodrow to $3.6mx6

 

[Panda Bear]

DeSmith better
Gustavsson

nah, that's you going balls to the wall ainec as usual

DeSmith still isn't a starter at 29, and you overhype young players like Gustavsson too much

 

[belair]

as discussed on discord, real life GM's are dumb af

we would have cancelled that risto trade, Buch trade and others for being too f***ing awful and unrealistic

we also wouldn't have signed #4s like Oleksiak to a $4.6mx4 deal or a third liner like Goodrow to $3.6mx6

For real coming from someone that watched both of these guys closely dating back to their junior days....

Nick Paul > Barclay Goodrow

 

[Ainec]

nah, that's you going balls to the wall ainec as usual

DeSmith still isn't a starter at 29, and you overhype young players like Gustavsson too much

Bob has been garbage

 

[Panda Bear]

Bob has been garbage

classic goat not understanding careers

 

[Panda Bear]

plus if you dive into it, Bobrovsky performed at the same level as Markstrom last season and nobody here is dumb enough to write off Markstrom so you have to assume people in this game are smart enough to not discount Bob