Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft Thread: Part Deux

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

They should just give us 1st overall now.

 

[Frk It]

Well, should have a lot of time to catch up on this draft. Let’s try to share some clips, videos, posts here.

 

[Dotter]

I'm pretty high on Stutzle (Rossi also) but I could see Drysdale in the 3 position, and even #2. I was really fixated on taking a F this year, but Drysdale leaves me with the least doubts of anyone not named Lafreniere. I hear you on thrilled with one of the bunch. This is going to take some time, and I just hope we get it Wright.

I'd be onboard with Rossi if the scouting staff thinks he's a Center version of Patrick Kane. I have to say though, his size makes me shy away from him.

 

[lilidk]

I'd be onboard with Rossi if the scouting staff thinks he's a Center version of Patrick Kane. I have to say though, his size makes me shy away from him.

He is forward, not defenseman or goalkeeper. Rossi going to be fine , we give him Rasmussen and Grewe .

 

[Ulysses31]

tier 1: lafrieniere
tier 2: stuzzle, byfield

if we pick 4th could come down to picking between Rossi, Drysdale, Raymond.

perhaps the real question is who to take of Rossi, Drysdale and Raymond?

 

[Killerjas]

Are Any Russian goalkeeper going to be available at draft?

Yaroslav Askarov at eliteprospects.com
Artur Akhtyamov at eliteprospects.com
Vsevolod Skotnikov at eliteprospects.com
Amir Miftakhov at eliteprospects.com
Gleb Nosov at eliteprospects.com

Askarov is gonna go around the 10th overall pick, the rest I see going between the 3rd to the 7th round. Maybe some of them will go undrafted. Miftakhov looks good but he is tiny for a goalie.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I love that he is already an athletic and powerful skater yet there is still so much room for technical improvement with is skating. I think the finished product (even without elite, elite puck skills) is going to be really hard to handle in all three zones.

 

[Dotter]

tier 1: lafrieniere
tier 2: stuzzle, byfield

if we pick 4th could come down to picking between Rossi, Drysdale, Raymond.

perhaps the real question is who to take of Rossi, Drysdale and Raymond?

In my limited view, I think Drysdale is on a different level from Rossi and Raymond.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

At 4, either Drysdale or Rossi, I'm fine with.

I don't want Raymond based on the position he plays.

I think he is extremely talented, but I see the other two as better fits for what this team needs.

 

[Christien]

My top 5 players in this years draft:
1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Drysdale
4. Raymond
5. Stutzle

For the Wings:
1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Stutzle
4. Drysdale
5. Raymond

I mentioned some of these guys earlier in this thread, but here's some guys I think Detroit should target after the first round:

C - Marat Khusnutdinov - 5'9, 165 lbs
Really good skater who drives the offence for his team and takes care of business in his own end. Good positioning, nice hands, and competitive. Needs to bulk up. Throughout the year I've noticed that he's gained more attention, so don't be surprised if somebody takes him with one of their first rounders.


LHD - Joni Jurmo - 6'4, 190 lbs
Another good skater who kind of reminds me of Broberg last year with the size and skating. Has a strong shot, nice hands and likes to jump up in the play.


LHD - Lukas Cormier - 5'10 - 170 lbs
Undersized defenceman that reminds me of Sam Girard because of his really smooth skating and smart hockey IQ. Great puck mover and pretty good in his own end, too.
Couldn't really find a highlight video, but fast forward to 3:10 in this video

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

At this point I am finding our 32 pverall pick far more interesting than our first rounder. For me personally I would take them in the following order with respect to our first pick. I won't cry if we took Rossi at 4, but he is not who I personally would take (largely because I am not buying him as an NHL center).

1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Stutzle
4. Raymond
5. Drysdale

32nd, however, is where the real debate starts in my opinion. If either is available, I have a very strong preference for Brendan Brisson or William Wallinder should either somehow come available. I think the later is a really nice compliment to what we drafted last year and have in the system regarding defensive propsects. I don't see him as elite, but good and the best of the rest at his position (at least a slighlty better puck mover than Guhle). I won't be shocked if he is off the board at 32nd. Brisson has a really good head and feel for the game, good vision and makes the players around him better. The skating is developmentally appropriate for a center prospect of his size and will get better with strength and maturity. I think in terms of higher-skilled players with capacity to truly drive the play and expected to be available at the tail end of the first/early second, he is my preferred option.

I don't think it is super likely that either will be available at 32, but I mention them because there is a non-diminimis chance that one may be available and things tend to get scrambled after about 25.

 

[Frk It]

At this point I am finding our 32 pverall pick far more interesting than our first rounder. For me personally I would take them in the following order with respect to our first pick. I won't cry if we took Rossi at 4, but he is not who I personally would take (largely because I am not buying him as an NHL center).

1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Stutzle
4. Raymond
5. Drysdale

32nd, however, is where the real debate starts in my opinion. If either is available, I have a very strong preference for Brendan Brisson or William Wallinder should either somehow come available. I think the later is a really nice compliment to what we drafted last year and have in the system regarding defensive propsects. I don't see him as elite, but good and the best of the rest at his position (at least a slighlty better puck mover than Guhle). I won't be shocked if he is off the board at 32nd. Brisson has a really good head and feel for the game, good vision and makes the players around him better. The skating is developmentally appropriate for a center prospect of his size and will get better with strength and maturity. I think in terms of higher-skilled players with capacity to truly drive the play and expected to be available at the tail end of the first/early second, he is my preferred option.

I don't think it is super likely that either will be available at 32, but I mention them because there is a non-diminimis chance that one may be available and things tend to get scrambled after about 25.

I have a top 20 for this draft... ideally one of these guys I have 15-20 would fall and be there for us with that 32nd pick.

1- Lafreniere
2- Byfield
3- Raymond
4- Stutzle
5- Drysdale
6- Perfetti
7- Rossi
8- Askarov
9- Zary
10- Lundell
11- Holtz
12- Holloway
13- Mercer
14- Quinn
15- Wallinder
16- Bourque
17- Jarvis
19- Brisson
20- Perrault

If not, I like Guhle, Schneider, and O'Rourke on defense. I like Bordeleau, Pashin, and Nybeck for forwards beyond what I have listed. (as far as that early 2nd rounder goes)

 

[Christien]

Someone from the prospects thread just uploaded a Jamie Drysdale highlight video

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

With all the free time I've had the past few days I've finished up what I assume will be my final draft list. The list isn't going to look like any main stream list and because of how I create the list it will heavily be skewed towards offensive players; that is also partly by design as I'd rather a "homerun" style approach to the draft with an emphasis on offence.

While I still haven't had time to create an NHLe based metric, I was able to create an adjusted points that account for a players era and age in most leagues as well as having a break down of their scoring totals. The biggest issue is accounting for TOI and PP time so that's where some subjectivity arises. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Oh, and there is really very little separating some of the players from one tier to another, and in the later cases from 2 or 3 tiers in difference.

Spoiler

Each new tier is denoted by a blue player

Tier	Player	Pos
1	Alexis Lafreniere	F
2	Quinton Byfield	F
2	Marco Rossi	F
2	Cole Perfetti	F
2	Tim Stutzle	F
2	Lucas Raymond	F
3	Seth Jarvis	F
3	Anton Lundell	F
3	Jamie Drysdale	D
3	Alexander Holtz	F
4	Mavrik Bourque	F
4	Connor Zary	F
4	Yaroslav Askarov	G
4	Lukas Cormier	D
4	Jack Quinn	F
4	Zion Nybeck	F
4	Noel Gunler	F
5	Dawson Mercer	F
5	Lukas Reichel	F
5	Connor McClennon	F
5	Martin Chromiak	F
5	Jan Mysak	F
5	Veeti Miettinen	F
5	Rodion Amirov	F
5	Dylan Holloway	F
6	Jeremie Poirier	D
6	Jacob Perreault	F
6	Tyson Foerster	F
6	Ryan O'Rourke	D
6	Jake Sanderson	D
6	Roni Hirvonen	F
6	Marat Khusnutdinov	F
6	Hendrix Lapierre	F
6	Emil Heineman	F
6	Daniel Torgersson	F
6	Emil Andrae	D
7	Tristen Robins	F
7	Alexander Pashin	F
7	Sam Colangelo	F
7	Ryan Francis	F
7	Alex Cotton	F
7	Carter Savoie	F
7	Ridly Greig	F
7	Michael Benning	D
7	Joel Blomqvist	G
7	Colby Ambrosio	F
7	William Villeneuve	D
7	Jack Finley	F
8	Pavel Novak	F
8	Xavier Simoneau	F
8	James Hardie	F
8	Luke Evangelista	F
8	Yevgeni Oksentyuk	F
8	Brendan Brisson	F
8	John-Jason Petreka	F
8	Ozzy Wiesblatt	F
8	Daniil Gushchin	F
8	Kasper Simontaival	F
8	Jacob Dion	D
8	Tyler Tullio	F
9	Dmitri Ovchinnikov	F
9	Sean Farrell	F
9	Jake Neighbours	F
9	Brett Berard	F
9	Thomas Bordeleau	F
9	Mitchell Miller	D
9	Braden Schneider	D
9	Anton Johannesson	D
10	Evan Vierling	F
10	Zayde Wisdom	F
10	Oskar Magnusson	F
10	Helge Grans	D
10	Tomi Niku	D
10	Roby Jarventie	F
10	Vasili Ponomaryov	F
10	Justin Sourdif	F
11	Kaiden Guhle	D
11	Theodor Niederbach	F
11	William Wallinder	D
11	Mikael Pyyhtia	F
11	Ivan Didkovsky	F
11	Maxim Beryozkin	F
11	Yegor Stepanov	F
12	Rory Kerins	F
12	Juuso Maenpaa	F
12	Joni Jurmo	D
12	Samuel Knazko	D
12	Adam Wilsby	D
13	William Dufour	F
13	Brady Burns	F
13	Kyle Crnkovic	F

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Some quick thoughts about this draft:

• I think the draft is extremely deep and full of interesting and high upside forwards. It does lack in all around dmen and there is a real lack of defenceman that are true 1st round talents. Aside from that it's a very good year to be looking for scorers and any team with a top 10 pick should be happy.
• I think Seth Jarvis is one of the most underrated players in the draft. This past season is comparable to that of most top 5 picks out of the WHL and truth be told it's the 3rd best DY season out of the WHL since 2000. Should he fall outside the top 10 he's an instant steal ala Debrincat.
• Chromiak would have been in contention for a top 10/15 spot had he had more GP in the OHL. His work in Kingston was exceptional and his best comps were that of a top 10 selections.
• Torgersson & Ambrosio are two players that I don't see much fanfare for. Both have very good seasons in which they likely under-produced and are poised to have big D+1 seasons. Both players had ES IPPs in the 50s, normally for a forward it's in the 65-75 range.
• Mitchell Miller and Jacob Dion are my personal sleeper dmen. Dion has had a season that would put him on the 1st round fringe in most years, and Miller is arguably the best defenceman in the USHL. Miller has had excellent international showings and had a very good
• Evangelista, Finley, and Sourdif were all elite producers at ES. Given their elite production at ES I don't believe it's a stretch to think that once they start to get top PP minutes they should show off more of their offensive upsides.
• Askarov and Blomqvist are the clear top 2 goalies for me. If we are unable to draft one of them than I'd focus on gambling one someone in the later rounds.

 

[Frk It]

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

...and to boot, they are both righties.

 

[Frk It]

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Who are the best "all-name team" guys this year? I'm partial to "Lucky Number" Tyler Kleven.

 

[Frk It]

Who are the best "all-name team" guys this year? I'm partial to "Lucky Number" Tyler Kleven.

It's all about this guy >> Primo Self at eliteprospects.com

But seriously, these are the coolest names to me:
Ozzy Wiesblatt
Zayde Wisdom
Zion Nybeck

Then there is Rodion Amirov, who sounds to me like he would be one of those made-up Russian players in Be a GM Mode in the NHL games with franchise potential.

 

[newfy]

I have a top 20 for this draft... ideally one of these guys I have 15-20 would fall and be there for us with that 32nd pick.

1- Lafreniere
2- Byfield
3- Raymond
4- Stutzle
5- Drysdale
6- Perfetti
7- Rossi
8- Askarov
9- Zary
10- Lundell
11- Holtz
12- Holloway
13- Mercer
14- Quinn
15- Wallinder
16- Bourque
17- Jarvis
19- Brisson
20- Perrault

If not, I like Guhle, Schneider, and O'Rourke on defense. I like Bordeleau, Pashin, and Nybeck for forwards beyond what I have listed. (as far as that early 2nd rounder goes)

Perrault I could see being the one that falls from that group.

I'm with you on the 3 dmen at the top of the second, but what do you think about Mysak early second?

 

[Frk It]

Perrault I could see being the one that falls from that group.

I'm with you on the 3 dmen at the top of the second, but what do you think about Mysak early second?

I like it. I’m intrigued by him and Chromiak.

 

[Ulysses31]

heard good things about danil gushchin on Scouching(youtube).

scouching says he(5'8) would be solidly a 1st round pick if 2 inches taller.

according to scouching hes worth a 2nd.

 

[Henkka]

Jarvis would be nice if he falls to our seconds.

 

[Killerjas]

For anyone who has some time available, yesterday Scouching did his weekly lifestream. Lots of insights about players and potential gems. Check him out

 

[GettingYourMoms]

tier 1: lafrieniere
tier 2: stuzzle, byfield

if we pick 4th could come down to picking between Rossi, Drysdale, Raymond.

perhaps the real question is who to take of Rossi, Drysdale and Raymond?

More like tier 1 - Lafreniere tier 2 drysdale byfield tier 3,Stutzle, raymond, Rossi tier 4 - rest