Pavel Buchnevich
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I'm not sure about a 2020 list, but I think Ryder Rolston should probably be the top ranked American as of now.
2020 NHL Draft Prospects
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kelsier
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I think Lundell has a good chance of climbing into the top 10 in this draft. He was absolutely stellar in the U18 gold winning team as a double under age (believe he was the youngest player of the team). The age didn't really seem to matter and his ability to display stellar two way game impressed me in particular. Scored six points in seven games. Currently listed at 6"0 while probably still growing. Of course playing center certainly doesn't hurt the stock value. In general Finns never really make too far or get recognition in the early looks, but I suppose that applies to most European nations as well. Anyway, whenever looking forward at two years it's always a crap shot in most cases. Good work on the list nonetheless.
Anton Lundell was not a double underager, he just was an underager. One of the younger ones though, as a late birthday.
Still, I agree that he's looking quite good. Late birthdays also seem to get favored a little. It'll be interesting to see his development over the next season. This past season was well above expectations.
Well, the Auston Matthews and Anton Lundell international performance comparison:
u17:
Matthews: 4+4=8, 6gp
Lundell: 3+4=7, 5gp
u18:
Matthews: 5+2=7, 7gp
Lundell: 2+4=6, 7gp
The international production at least is pretty close to a rather good prospect. But as said, next season will tell a lot already. I've always liked him when I've seen him play.
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I'd like to add two very highly touted goalies
Yaroslav Askarov at eliteprospects.com
Semyon Sharabarin at eliteprospects.com
It has been rumored that Simontaival would start the season in LeKi of Mestis (the Finland's second highest level).
Source in Finnish:
Kasper Simontaival (B-jun)
If he ends up playing the whole season with men, he'll most likely total only 2 U20 league games on his career. I'm not saying this scenario is probable, but I can see it happening.
Source in Finnish:
Kasper Simontaival (B-jun)
If he ends up playing the whole season with men, he'll most likely total only 2 U20 league games on his career. I'm not saying this scenario is probable, but I can see it happening.
Finnish D Manu Räty is born late 2001 and egilible for draft in 2020. It is interesting to see him play in KooKoo A-Junior SM-league in next season, could be competetative candidate to U18 World Cup.
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I gotta make a case for two players:
I watched some of the Team Canada U17 Development Camp games. With what I saw, I would say Perfetti is ranked too low in the suggested rankings. He has the smarts and the skills. A real team player. He played with Luke Evangelista (LK - OHL #14 overall) - another that is missing from the rankings. Evangelista has sick hands and an amazing hockey IQ. Watching them together, I thought of what Perfetti is capable of with high-end talent alongside of him. He's the real deal - great head on his shoulders! And Evangelista will only become more dominant as he fills out his frame.
The bodies will develop. But the minds are what is most important, IMO.
Speaking of minds, in one game I saw the Evangelista/Perfetti line playing against Quintin Byfield. Apparently, Byfield had enough of what he was seeing and took a run at Evangelista, boarding him with a blind side hit. Byfield got the penalty, but Evangelista left camp with a shoulder injury as a result. It made me think less of Byfield for the simple reason - who, in their right mind, takes a run at a potential fellow Team Canada teammate, in a Development Camp scrimmage?
I watched some of the Team Canada U17 Development Camp games. With what I saw, I would say Perfetti is ranked too low in the suggested rankings. He has the smarts and the skills. A real team player. He played with Luke Evangelista (LK - OHL #14 overall) - another that is missing from the rankings. Evangelista has sick hands and an amazing hockey IQ. Watching them together, I thought of what Perfetti is capable of with high-end talent alongside of him. He's the real deal - great head on his shoulders! And Evangelista will only become more dominant as he fills out his frame.
The bodies will develop. But the minds are what is most important, IMO.
Speaking of minds, in one game I saw the Evangelista/Perfetti line playing against Quintin Byfield. Apparently, Byfield had enough of what he was seeing and took a run at Evangelista, boarding him with a blind side hit. Byfield got the penalty, but Evangelista left camp with a shoulder injury as a result. It made me think less of Byfield for the simple reason - who, in their right mind, takes a run at a potential fellow Team Canada teammate, in a Development Camp scrimmage?
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The knock on Byfield is that he has only played against kids his birth year in a weaker league and given his size he could do what he wanted. Now he is playing against the best of the best and will be playing kids older and more physically mature - will be an adjustment. Getting frustrated against bigger and stronger players will show itself in frustration.
Standouts from the camp on forward: Quinton Byfield, Josh Lawrence, Jean Luc Foudy, Hendrix Lapierre, Evan Vierling
On defense: Luke Prokop, Kaiden Guhle, Jamie Drysdale, Lukas Cormier, Ryan O'Rourke.
Lots of other impressive performances, but these are who look like they're on track to playing on next year's hlinka.
On defense: Luke Prokop, Kaiden Guhle, Jamie Drysdale, Lukas Cormier, Ryan O'Rourke.
Lots of other impressive performances, but these are who look like they're on track to playing on next year's hlinka.
Curious about your thoughts on a couple of Calgary area kids my kid used to play with that were also in the camp.
Defenseman Ronan Seeley, Forwards Kyle. Crnkovic and Jake Neighbours. My kid played with all three of those kids when he was just 6-8 years of age. And our Team was awesome!
Defenseman Ronan Seeley, Forwards Kyle. Crnkovic and Jake Neighbours. My kid played with all three of those kids when he was just 6-8 years of age. And our Team was awesome!
With training camps over in the Q, some names to keep in mind:
1. F Alexis Lafrenière, Rimouski - likely 1st overall pick
2. F Josh Lawrence, Saint John - slick offensive forward, creates a ton of chances, only 5'7 size a factor in draft position for NHL
3. D William Villeneuve, Saint John - two-way defenseman with an offensive touch and big shot from the point, high hockey sense, already 6'1, potential top-10 pick
4. F Hendrix Lapierre, Chicoutimi - high-enery playmaker who can do it all on the ice, already 6' should be a 1st round pick
5. D Justin Barron, Halifax - impressive offensive dman who can skate, listed at 6'2 and 187 very likely to be chosen in 1st round
6. D Lukas Cormier, Charlottetown - new-age fast puck-moving defenseman, only 5'8 for now, may be choosen late because of size
7. G Antoine Coulombe, Shawinigan - 5'11 186 sound technical goalie who impressed everywhere he went, impossible to predict with goalies but is trending high
8. F Patrick Guay, Sherbrooke - 5'9 162lbs extremely skilled offensive player with top-notch hands, a decent gamble in the 2nd round
9. D Jérémie Biakabutuka, Val d'Or - huge defenseman who can skate and move the puck, has a mean streak, could be a 1st round pick if he keeps developping
10. F Charles Beaudoin, Shawinigan - tons of offensive skills, soft hands, big point producer, needs to improve two-way game, NHL size already, solid gamble in middle rounds
11. D Jérémie Poirier, Saint John - sound defenseman who defends well and can support the offense, already 6'0, could be a good mid-rounder
12. F Mavrick Bourque, Shawinigan - 5'10 163 offensive-minded forward who works extremely hard and has a wide variety of skills, great skater
13. F William Provost, Val d'Or - 5'11 181 slick hands and great shot, needs to improve decision making and effort level
14. F Theo Rochette, Chicoutimi - 5'10 150 needs to get bigger and stronger, skills are there, unproven in NA
15. D Nicholas Savoie, Quebec - skilled offensive dman who can play a solid two-way game already has NHL size
HMs; Dawson Stairs, Brady Burns, Pier-Olivier Roy, Charlie DesRoches, Ryan Francis, Dawson Mercer, William Dufour, Samuel Dubé, Alex Drover, Benjamin Roode, Elliot Desnoyers, Lucas Mercuri, Xavier Fortin, Simon Bucheler, Alexandre David, Nicolas Kingsbury-Fournier, Charles-Antoine Lavallée, Maximilien Ledoux
1. F Alexis Lafrenière, Rimouski - likely 1st overall pick
2. F Josh Lawrence, Saint John - slick offensive forward, creates a ton of chances, only 5'7 size a factor in draft position for NHL
3. D William Villeneuve, Saint John - two-way defenseman with an offensive touch and big shot from the point, high hockey sense, already 6'1, potential top-10 pick
4. F Hendrix Lapierre, Chicoutimi - high-enery playmaker who can do it all on the ice, already 6' should be a 1st round pick
5. D Justin Barron, Halifax - impressive offensive dman who can skate, listed at 6'2 and 187 very likely to be chosen in 1st round
6. D Lukas Cormier, Charlottetown - new-age fast puck-moving defenseman, only 5'8 for now, may be choosen late because of size
7. G Antoine Coulombe, Shawinigan - 5'11 186 sound technical goalie who impressed everywhere he went, impossible to predict with goalies but is trending high
8. F Patrick Guay, Sherbrooke - 5'9 162lbs extremely skilled offensive player with top-notch hands, a decent gamble in the 2nd round
9. D Jérémie Biakabutuka, Val d'Or - huge defenseman who can skate and move the puck, has a mean streak, could be a 1st round pick if he keeps developping
10. F Charles Beaudoin, Shawinigan - tons of offensive skills, soft hands, big point producer, needs to improve two-way game, NHL size already, solid gamble in middle rounds
11. D Jérémie Poirier, Saint John - sound defenseman who defends well and can support the offense, already 6'0, could be a good mid-rounder
12. F Mavrick Bourque, Shawinigan - 5'10 163 offensive-minded forward who works extremely hard and has a wide variety of skills, great skater
13. F William Provost, Val d'Or - 5'11 181 slick hands and great shot, needs to improve decision making and effort level
14. F Theo Rochette, Chicoutimi - 5'10 150 needs to get bigger and stronger, skills are there, unproven in NA
15. D Nicholas Savoie, Quebec - skilled offensive dman who can play a solid two-way game already has NHL size
HMs; Dawson Stairs, Brady Burns, Pier-Olivier Roy, Charlie DesRoches, Ryan Francis, Dawson Mercer, William Dufour, Samuel Dubé, Alex Drover, Benjamin Roode, Elliot Desnoyers, Lucas Mercuri, Xavier Fortin, Simon Bucheler, Alexandre David, Nicolas Kingsbury-Fournier, Charles-Antoine Lavallée, Maximilien Ledoux
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Didn't get a good enough read on Seeley and Neighbours, beyond that neither looked out of place. Crnkovic i've seen a few times now, including in person when his team played in an academy tournament in Toronto. Hyper competitive, crafty, quick as hell. I'm not sure he'll grow much larger, but I don't think that's going to hold him back. Doesn't seem to have any issues going into tough areas. I think he's going to be really good.
Looks close to my thoughts after watching the U17 camp. I also thought Pier-Olivier Roy showed some impressive offensive ability.
One name that impressed me that I don't see on your list is William Veillette. His energy and skating really stood out at the camp. Had several "who's that player" moments that turned out to be him.
Thanks for your thoughts. Yeah Crnky is a slick little player. I also saw him in Toronto. Awesome family as well.
Curious why you don't have Evan Vierling in your top 31, he should be at least top 15 imo.
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I only saw him once when I made that list, and I wasn't impress, but I watched him more and he's around the 20th spot now. Still super early so I change my list after almost every game I watch.
2020 prospects on Finnish u20-league:
Roni Hirvonen 5. 4+4=8
Veeti Miettinen5. 2+5=7
Anton Lundell 5. 4+2=6
Kasper Simontaival 5. 2+2=4
Roni Hirvonen 5. 4+4=8
Veeti Miettinen5. 2+5=7
Anton Lundell 5. 4+2=6
Kasper Simontaival 5. 2+2=4
