Draft 2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part VI

[TheBloodyNine]

Top 10 isnt happening unless you really incentivize a team to move back 12-16 or so spots.
Unless a team is truly desperate in a win now situation and they dont care about a prospect that cant help right away
22 and Strome doesnt get top 10...unfortunately

This might be the time to use Nils possibly? Trade from a position of strength for a need?....then we can put the DeAngelo stuff to bed. We know what we have in him and hes gonna get even better. Expensive tho
If they think Lundell can step right in idk.

Eventually something is gonna have to give RHD wise...someone's gonna go
They need to ascertain just exactly who they love outside of Lafrenière and how much they want him. It all depends on that

If they're not crazy about anyone then just hold your cards and wait

Trading Nils to move up in the draft is a horrible idea

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

TBH "fallers" isn't something the Rangers do. Its all about them reaches, baby!

Cherepanov?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

We're not getting back into the top 10 in this draft. We'll either stay put at 22, move up maybe a few spots in to the teens to grab someone, or trade the pick away for a roster player.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

1 and 21 had a nice ring to it, especially if it meant the Devils losing a spot.

But 1 and 22 is solid.

Time to start that poll.

If they keep the pick (or move up in the 1st), I just can't shake the feeling Holloway winds up a Ranger...

 

[TheBloodyNine]

If they keep the pick (or move up in the 1st), I just can't shake the feeling Holloway winds up a Ranger...

I wouldn’t hate it TBH.

 

[Ghost of jas]

If they keep the pick (or move up in the 1st), I just can't shake the feeling Holloway winds up a Ranger...

I can.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Don't think you need to trade up for Gunler. Mercer, yes.

I dunno, if they keep the pick, or even if they trade up a couple slots, I have a strong feeling they'll take Holloway. And I'll be one of like 15% of the board who's happy with the pick.

I wouldn’t hate it TBH.

Well, you'd be part of the 15% with me.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I can.

Ha!

Is that because you genuinely don't see it – or because of how much you'd dislike the pick personally?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Cherepanov?

And Skjei

 

[Ghost of jas]

Ha!

Is that because you genuinely don't see it – or because of how much you'd dislike the pick personally?

Because of the wide open nature of what the Rangers are going to do. @Edge has mentioned quite a few options. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was or wasn’t the pick. The Rangers have also shown a willingness to go for ‘boom’ potential, and IMO, there are better candidates of that ilk that could be available there.

 

[Edge]

If they keep the pick (or move up in the 1st), I just can't shake the feeling Holloway winds up a Ranger...

Hard to say. They really like him, but I don’t know if he’s “their guy”.

 

[NYRangers0723]

The Rangers aren’t using Lundkvist to move up in the draft. He’s likely better than every Dman not named Sanderson or Drysdale
.

agreed

 

[NYRangers0723]

Top 10 isnt happening unless you really incentivize a team to move back 12-16 or so spots.
Unless a team is truly desperate in a win now situation and they dont care about a prospect that cant help right away
22 and Strome doesnt get top 10...unfortunately

This might be the time to use Nils possibly? Trade from a position of strength for a need?....then we can put the DeAngelo stuff to bed. We know what we have in him and hes gonna get even better. Expensive tho
If they think Lundell can step right in idk.

Eventually something is gonna have to give RHD wise...someone's gonna go
They need to ascertain just exactly who they love outside of Lafrenière and how much they want him. It all depends on that

If they're not crazy about anyone then just hold your cards and wait

No offense but that’s a horrendous idea

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Crikey, you draft a guy outside the top 3 and you DREAM he develops like Nils has to this point.

 

[gravey9]

Hard to say. They really like him, but I don’t know if he’s “their guy”.

That's interesting. I was finally diving into the possible choices around 22. And Holloway for me was the one that fits into the identity they're trying to build. Big kid who skates really well. Could be a Jordan Greenway/Chris Kreider type. I don't if he ultimately translates as a center. I think he's a middle 6 power forward or 3C.

The other forwards in this range don't impress me that much. A lot of okay to undersized centers that I don't think project to be much of an upgrade over, say, Strome. Possibly Perreault. The russian kid, Marat K seems impressive but small. I would prefer Holloway to for that size/speed. Very useful kid even if the offense doesn't pan out. If we stay in this range, I might even go off the board and pick Wiesblatt. Enjoy his motor and playmaking.

But honestly, I don't know that I'm in love with anyone in this range. I thought the skating was fairly average amongst the skilled forwards and many are in that 5'10"-5'11" range. Though I would def take Holloway if we stay put AND he still happens to be there. He's the literally the only forward with a definite NHL frame and skating. I think trading it for a need or trading up is the right move.

 

[QJL]

Players I would trade Lundkvist for in this draft: Stutzle, Byfield, Raymond, Jarvis. That’s it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Players I would trade Lundkvist for in this draft: Stutzle, Byfield, Raymond, Jarvis. That’s it.

I'm iffy on Raymond and probably a no on Jarvis.

I think folks downplay Lundkvist because he's been in the pool now for a while. His year last year in the SHL was utterly jaw-dropping. Pretty sure if he were magically dropped into the draft pool this year he'd go top 5.

 

[Synergy27]

You don’t trade Lindqvist, he is cost controlled for years and the best dman not playing in the nhl by all accounts.

By ALL accounts? The best defenseman not playing in the NHL? Are we hyping this kid a bit too much at this point?

 

[QJL]

By ALL accounts? The best defenseman not playing in the NHL? Are we hyping this kid a bit too much at this point?

“All accounts” is the only stretch here. Who is better? I think Lundkvist is right there with Seider in terms of current readiness for the NHL, ahead of Byram, Romanov, Bouchard, Smith, etc.

 

[rangers1314]

Hard to say. They really like him, but I don’t know if he’s “their guy”.

Any idea on the FO’s opinion of Brendan Brisson? Possible target at 22?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

And Skjei

Del Zotto. Sanguinetti was a faller too.

They have done it more often than not.

 

[Edge]

Any idea on the FO’s opinion of Brendan Brisson? Possible target at 22?

Nothing specific. I have had a few people outside the organization question whether he’s a center at the higher levels.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That's interesting. I was finally diving into the possible choices around 22. And Holloway for me was the one that fits into the identity they're trying to build. Big kid who skates really well. Could be a Jordan Greenway/Chris Kreider type. I don't if he ultimately translates as a center. I think he's a middle 6 power forward or 3C.

The other forwards in this range don't impress me that much. A lot of okay to undersized centers that I don't think project to be much of an upgrade over, say, Strome. Possibly Perreault. The russian kid, Marat K seems impressive but small. I would prefer Holloway to for that size/speed. Very useful kid even if the offense doesn't pan out. If we stay in this range, I might even go off the board and pick Wiesblatt. Enjoy his motor and playmaking.

But honestly, I don't know that I'm in love with anyone in this range. I thought the skating was fairly average amongst the skilled forwards and many are in that 5'10"-5'11" range. Though I would def take Holloway if we stay put AND he still happens to be there. He's the literally the only forward with a definite NHL frame and skating. I think trading it for a need or trading up is the right move.

Take him over Holloway 12 times out of 10.

I love this player and think he carves out a really, really good NHL career. The frame isn't ideal but hes got "it." True Heart and Soul player with a tangible skill set and willingness to do whatever, whenever.

Give him 2 years to cook and he'll be ready to step in and contribute.

The one guy I've started to warm up to a bit is O'Rourke. Hes got a more well rounded game than he gets credit for.

Mysak screams Ranger pick to me. Hes the guy I think they snag at 22 if they keep the pick/don't move up.

 

[Leetch3]

Any idea on the FO’s opinion of Brendan Brisson? Possible target at 22?

interesting side note, his dad is super-agent Pat Brisson $174 mil (per year) worth of clients starting including deangelo and gauthier

Contracts by Agent | Puckpedia

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

TBH "fallers" isn't something the Rangers do. Its all about them reaches, baby!

Duclair, Buchnevich, Reunanen, Day, Saarela, even Aaltonen to an extent were all guys who fell for a reason or another that the NYR took. So I don’t see it.