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Which new bloke are you most looking forward to see?

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Foppa2118

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Avsavsavsavsavs said:
But if Joe is asking him to waive his NTC that means Joe wants him out.
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Almost certainly not true.

Trading such a respected vet like EJ right now, after how he stuck with the team, and hasn't won a Cup yet, would have a massive impact on team chemistry.

Joe's not an idiot. He's not going to risk pissing off the Avs leaders like Landy and Nate, who are buds with EJ, right before the season they're best suited to win the Cup.

And to make it worse, the only teams that could afford him (even at 50%) are bottom dwellers. So he'd be trading EJ from a Cup contender to a bottom dweller.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Almost certainly not true.

Trading such a respected vet like EJ right now, after how he stuck with the team, and hasn't won a Cup yet, would have a massive impact on team chemistry.

Joe's not an idiot. He's not going to risk pissing off the Avs leaders like Landy and Nate, who are buds with EJ, right before the season they're best suited to win the Cup.

And to make it worse, the only teams that could afford him (even at 50%) are bottom dwellers. So he'd be trading EJ from a Cup contender to a bottom dweller.
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Lol why do people want to get rid of him right now? After the season sure you have to explore it but today not a chance.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Almost certainly not true.

Trading such a respected vet like EJ right now, after how he stuck with the team, and hasn't won a Cup yet, would have a massive impact on team chemistry.

Joe's not an idiot. He's not going to risk pissing off the Avs leaders like Landy and Nate, who are buds with EJ, right before the season they're best suited to win the Cup.

And to make it worse, the only teams that could afford him (even at 50%) are bottom dwellers. So he'd be trading EJ from a Cup contender to a bottom dweller.
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I'm not saying that what's quoted is what is happening, it was just a response to the person I initially quoted. I don't think there is any bad blood between EJ and management, I don't even think they are asking him to waive his NMC, I was just saying that if it came down to Joe asking EJ to waive his NMC it would likely be because he is on the way out.
 
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Avsavsavsavsavs said:
But if Joe is asking him to waive his NTC that means Joe wants him out.
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No, in fact if he's asking him to waive the intention is likely the complete opposite of that. If he refuses to waive before the expansion draft, which I read Francois Beauchemin reportedly refused to do, then in order to free up that protection slot, Sakic will have no choice but to buy EJ out...which of course is what happened with Beauchemin. If he waives and isn't claimed, then he stays AND the Avs are able to protect three to four defensemen without having to waste a slot on him.
 
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Hey guys - will Byram be playing NHL games any time soon? And who would he be paired with if he is?

Took a flyer on him in my fantasy league. Thanks in advance!
 

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No, in fact if he's asking him to waive the intention is likely the complete opposite of that. If he refuses to waive before the expansion draft, which I read Francois Beauchemin reportedly refused to do, then in order to free up that protection slot, Sakic will have no choice but to buy EJ out...which of course is what happened with Beauchemin. If he waives and isn't claimed, then he stays AND the Avs are able to protect three to four defensemen without having to waste a slot on him.
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I actually did not know that, very informative thank you. I also think that given those circumstances in this market EJ would likely clear waivers and that would be a very ideal situation heading into the expansion draft.

This is why I love this place, surrounded by people who know the league intricacies better than I and who've shared the same 15 years of disappointment that i have.
 
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AddyTheWrath said:
Hey guys - will Byram be playing NHL games any time soon? And who would he be paired with if he is?

Took a flyer on him in my fantasy league. Thanks in advance!
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I suspect he won't get that many games this season. If he does, he'll likely be paired with EJ, but there's also Cole and Ryan Graves
 
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Avsavsavsavsavs said:
I actually did not know that, very informative thank you. I also think that given those circumstances in this market EJ would likely clear waivers and that would be a very ideal situation heading into the expansion draft.

This is why I love this place, surrounded by people who know the league intricacies better than I and who've shared the same 15 years of disappointment that i have.
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Just to clarify further--EJ would not have to clear any sort of waivers if he waives his NMC--he would just be eligible to be selected by Seattle in the Expansion Draft. And while there's a possibility he'd get selected, I highly doubt it.

FTR I don't think a buyout is outside the realm of possibility--just depends on how well he does this season. I still think it's unlikely, but not impossible.
 
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AddyTheWrath said:
Hey guys - will Byram be playing NHL games any time soon? And who would he be paired with if he is?

Took a flyer on him in my fantasy league. Thanks in advance!
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He starts practicing on Saturday and when he plays he will almost 100% be playing with Graves on the 3rd pairing.
 
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I’m just hopping back on HF again since the end of last season, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

But as far as EJ goes, wasn’t it speculated last year that his injury could carry over into the start of this season?

I know Bednar said everyone was healthy the day before camp, but any chance it’s just his previous injury lingering?
 
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Avs said:
I’m just hopping back on HF again since the end of last season, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

But as far as EJ goes, wasn’t it speculated last year that his injury could carry over into the start of this season?

I know Bednar said everyone was healthy the day before camp, but any chance it’s just his previous injury lingering?
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We don't know. Nobody but the Avs and EJ know. They'll only say he was unfit to play. However, reading the tea leaves, it has to be COVID related. He hasn't even been in the building until today. 3 of his teammates all were unfit to play for the same number of days, and came back seemingly just fine on the same day. Landy sort of gave it away with his talk about following protocol when he returned.

If EJ had COVID, and was symptomatic, he could still be wore down and not ready to practice just yet. Some people say they fell worn out from it for 2-3 weeks after symptoms subside. He'll probably start practicing here in the next few days, and be ready next week.
 
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Avsavsavsavsavs said:
I'm not saying that what's quoted is what is happening, it was just a response to the person I initially quoted. I don't think there is any bad blood between EJ and management, I don't even think they are asking him to waive his NMC, I was just saying that if it came down to Joe asking EJ to waive his NMC it would likely be because he is on the way out.
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No, I knew you were just speculating based on the comment. I didn't think you were saying it was true.

I just wouldn't put any stock into that comment personally, unless something else comes out to support it.
 
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