Speculation: 2020-2021 Sharks Roster Discussion Part 7

[PacificOceanPotion]

Couture, Merkley, 2021 3rd for Eichel.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Couture, Merkley, 2021 3rd for Eichel.

Buffalo will pretty easily say no to that deal.

 

[TheBeard]

I'm not so sure Buffalo has to move the SKinner deal TBH. It's one thing to have a team weighed down by numerous overpaying contracts, but Buffalo is a young team and outside of Eichel there are no other bloated deals. They can afford to wait out his slump or simply delegate him to the 4th line without it being a massive burden on their cap.

 

[Barrie22]

I'm not so sure Buffalo has to move the SKinner deal TBH. It's one thing to have a team weighed down by numerous overpaying contracts, but Buffalo is a young team and outside of Eichel there are no other bloated deals. They can afford to wait out his slump or simply delegate him to the 4th line without it being a massive burden on their cap.

Soon it will be a trade demand, he has already went and whined to his agent to speak up for him.

And don meehan is one of the take no crap from any one type of agents.

 

[themelkman]

Only Skinner deal im interested in is Vlasic for Skinner, but Vlasic will shut that down.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Remember when Skinner won the Calder over Couture?

Hilarious.

 

[TheBeard]

Soon it will be a trade demand, he has already went and whined to his agent to speak up for him.

And don meehan is one of the take no crap from any one type of agents.

He seemed to say all the right things. I expect Kreuger to get fired before Skinner gets traded. The impression I got today from his presser (skinner) is that he wants to be in Buffalo and I don't blame him for being frustrated for being benched despite how awful he's played.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Buffalo will pretty easily say no to that deal.

I'm no good at these trade proposals

 

[TheBeard]

Remember when Skinner won the Calder over Couture?

Hilarious.

I mean for their rookie seasons Skinner was better, but if we’re going off the idea of who would end up being the best player from that class it’s John Carlson by a mile.

 

[Gecklund]

I mean for their rookie seasons Skinner was better, but if we’re going off the idea of who would end up being the best player from that class it’s John Carlson by a mile.

Couture scored 56 points and 32 goals at the more important position and helped get his team to the playoffs. Skinner did have more points at 63 and had 31 goals but less important position and his team did not make the playoffs. Couture was also a two way beast up until the last few years. Skinner is a defensive liability.

 

[WTFetus]

Couture scored 56 points and 32 goals at the more important position and helped get his team to the playoffs. Skinner did have more points at 63 and had 31 goals but less important position and his team did not make the playoffs. Couture was also a two way beast up until the last few years. Skinner is a defensive liability.

Skinner was just drafted that off-season, whereas Couture had 3 additional seasons since his draft and barely met the rookie criteria with the maximum 25 NHL games the season prior. It was close but I’d give the edge to Skinner.

 

[TheBeard]

Couture scored 56 points and 32 goals at the more important position and helped get his team to the playoffs. Skinner did have more points at 63 and had 31 goals but less important position and his team did not make the playoffs. Couture was also a two way beast up until the last few years. Skinner is a defensive liability.

Skinner was also 19. It doesn't matter, you could make an argument for both players. Both deserved to win.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Skinner was also 19. It doesn't matter, you could make an argument for both players. Both deserved to win.

Oh sure, Skinner didn't not deserve it, it's just funny to think about in hindsight.

 

[WTFetus]

I mean for their rookie seasons Skinner was better, but if we’re going off the idea of who would end up being the best player from that class it’s John Carlson by a mile.

I might give the edge to Marchand.

 

[TheBeard]

Oh sure, Skinner didn't not deserve it, it's just funny to think about in hindsight.

Not as funny as how far Grabner has dropped

 

[hohosaregood]

Buffalo will pretty easily say no to that deal.

What if he meant 3rd overall?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

What if he meant 3rd overall?

Would probably still decline lol

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Couture scored 56 points and 32 goals at the more important position and helped get his team to the playoffs. Skinner did have more points at 63 and had 31 goals but less important position and his team did not make the playoffs. Couture was also a two way beast up until the last few years. Skinner is a defensive liability.

Skinner had a fast start and the ASG was in Carolina that year. He got all the rookie pub at forward that year. Couture didn’t really have a shot despite my agreement with your assessment of their seasons.

 

[Sharksrule04]

I'm no good at these trade proposals

Don’t worry, no one here is. Fans constantly get valuation and perceived value wrong.

 

[Barrie22]

Don’t worry, no one here is. Fans constantly get valuation and perceived value wrong.

Every one thought the starting price for karlsson was meier and hertl together, and then to add picks and prospects on top of that.

If what you think is the value, lessen it by like double and you get the actual value that GM's will pay.

 

[Gecklund]

Every one thought the starting price for karlsson was meier and hertl together, and then to add picks and prospects on top of that.

If what you think is the value, lessen it by like double and you get the actual value that GM's will pay.

No sharks fan thought it was both. Some thought it would take one of them but I think very few were willing to pay that.

 

[TheBeard]

Every one thought the starting price for karlsson was meier and hertl together, and then to add picks and prospects on top of that.

If what you think is the value, lessen it by like double and you get the actual value that GM's will pay.

While that may be true, there is a major difference between Eichel, who is younger than Karlsson was and is signed long term, and Karlsson who wasn’t going to be returning to Ottawa. Goodrow for example was never going to fetch a first if he wasn’t signed an extra year.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Timo Meier had a two-goal game and was still one of the worst forwards on the ice. Plays dying on his stick, defensive miscues, absolutely no vision...the Sharks need to consider moving on.

 

[Lebanezer]

Timo Meier had a two-goal game and was still one of the worst forwards on the ice. Plays dying on his stick, defensive miscues, absolutely no vision...the Sharks need to consider moving on.

This is just speculation, but I think he’s putting so much pressure on himself to do everything every shift that he’s becoming insanely one dimensional.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

This is just speculation, but I think he’s putting so much pressure on himself to do everything every shift that he’s becoming insanely one dimensional.

If he’s putting pressure on himself, he certainly doesn’t show it with his effort.