Boston Bruins 2020-2021 Roster Discussion IV - STAY ON TOPIC

[Blowfish]

Idk what this proves but I find it hysterical that someone took time to make a Kevan Miller highlight tape

IMO if Miller is over his injury he can be a very effective player. Your earlier comment tells me how little you watched Miller.

Um I think you’re romanticizing how effective he was when healthy

 

[Deuce17]

IMO if Miller is over his injury he can be a very effective player. Your earlier comment tells me how little you watched Miller.

Um I think you’re romanticizing how effective he was when healthy

I mean that’s the thing I don’t think he was ever a ‘very effective player’ and I’ve watched every minute he’s played in Black and Gold. He was serviceable imo once he improved his skating but the puck consistently explodes off the guys stick in how own end leading to turnovers. Happens like a lot

Just cause I have a different opinion of the player doesn’t mean I ‘haven’t watched him enough’ that’s just you discounting my opinion cause it doesn’t align with yours

 

[Blowfish]

I mean that’s the thing I don’t think he was ever a ‘very effective player’ and I’ve watched every minute he’s played in Black and Gold. He was serviceable imo once he improved his skating but the puck consistently explodes off the guys stick in how own end leading to turnovers. Happens like a lot

Just cause I have a different opinion of the player doesn’t mean I ‘haven’t watched him enough’ that’s just you discounting my opinion cause it doesn’t align with yours

Um I think you’re romanticizing how ineffective he was when healthy

 

[Deuce17]

Um I think you’re romanticizing how ineffective he was when healthy

Never even once said that. Look you’re getting embarrassed here so I’m gonna do you a solid and stop the fight

 

[Blowfish]

Never even once said that. Look you’re getting embarrassed here so I’m gonna do you a solid and stop the fight

LOL "embarrassed"?

You were the guy discounting bbfan's opinion, not me. BTW it's all good because we all have opinions on here and challenge each other. So relax on the "discounted opinion" hurt feelings thing.

 

[PB37]

IMO if Miller is over his injury he can be a very effective player. Your earlier comment tells me how little you watched Miller.

Um I think you’re romanticizing how effective he was when healthy

I think it's good insurance in the event Clifton gets hurt or doesn't improve. Bruins have dressed over 10 dmen over the course of the season for over a decade and we've had a top three d corps over that span. Cheap veteran dmen are useful and i think Miller will get his spots. Also, this is a 'feel good' moment for the locker room to see a guy they all know and love get a chance to resume his career.

I think this could end up as a sneaky good move for the Bruins.

 

[bbfan419]

Um I think you’re romanticizing how effective he was when healthy

Not really he was a pretty steady defensive D, that played a physical game, blocked shots etc. depending on who else would qualify for the award he could have a shot at it.

 

[Dr Hook]

The big question mark is how his knees hold up and I still believe that is the 50/50 thing here. It's fine to be skating 2-3 days a week and doing plyometrics in the basement and another to play a full speed NHL game. If he does make a comeback and can actually play at a level close to what he was before the injuries, then yeah, he is a solid veteran option for the 3rd pair that can be used against heavier teams or if one of the kids is having a tough time. As with Chara though, the problem could be Butch's temptation to overuse him because "veteran."

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

The big question mark is how his knees hold up and I still believe that is the 50/50 thing here. It's fine to be skating 2-3 days a week and doing plyometrics in the basement and another to play a full speed NHL game. If he does make a comeback and can actually play at a level close to what he was before the injuries, then yeah, he is a solid veteran option for the 3rd pair that can be used against heavier teams or if one of the kids is having a tough time. As with Chara though, the problem could be Butch's temptation to overuse him because "veteran."

" He’s lost an even 200 regular season games to injury in his career, with ailments including the standard upper-body and lower-body injuries, concussions, and sickness but also multiple injuries to his shoulders and hands as well as a bruised larynx."

Hands, shoulders, knees and head (knees and head)

Not great for an aging, physical defenseman.

 

[Dr Hook]

" He’s lost an even 200 regular season games to injury in his career, with ailments including the standard upper-body and lower-body injuries, concussions, and sickness but also multiple injuries to his shoulders and hands as well as a bruised larynx."

Hands, shoulders, knees and head (knees and head)

Not great for an aging, physical defenseman.

Agree 100%. Maybe 50/50 coming back is a bit optimistic. But if he does, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I still absolutely disagree with the signing, but since it's done, I am hoping for the best here. When Miller was healthy and at the top his game he was a solid 3rd pair physical guy that while not great was not a liability either so long as he was not asked to do a whole lot.

 

[HumBucker]

Never even once said that. Look you’re getting embarrassed here so I’m gonna do you a solid and stop the fight

You said exactly that in message #73 above? Or is there a glitch?

 

[Deuce17]

You said exactly that in message #73 above? Or is there a glitch?

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You need to reread the entire convo bro

 

[TCB]

Indeed very exciting our big offseason D acquisition is healthy enough to skate. Fire up the duck boats

Can't blame Miller and his perseverance and dedication to making it back from his injury to Sweeney ineptness and down right failure of improving the team.

 

[Deuce17]

Can't blame Miller and his perseverance and dedication to making it back from his injury to Sweeney ineptness and down rate failure of improving the team.

That’s a fair point. Hard to separate the two but important to do so. Well said

 

[kthx]

Idk what this proves but I find it hysterical that someone took time to make a Kevan Miller highlight tape

Someone made a Janne Niinimaa highlight video which is 5 minutes of his failures in world championships. And it's a classic.

I like Miller I dont think it's as hysterical as it sounds. He could be good for us.

 

[Deuce17]

Someone made a Janne Niinimaa highlight video which is 5 minutes of his failures in world championships. And it's a classic.

I like Miller I dont think it's as hysterical as it sounds. He could be good for us.

I mean maybe I’m off base but a highlight mix for a possible third pairing LD? Idk I guess behind the times

 

[BruinsNetwork]

*delete*

 

[Mick Riddleton]

If you ask the Leafs, they think Thornton, Spezza and Simmonds are the same players as they were 10yrs ago That makes them STACKED

We are not much better, they way some in here talk you think Miller is Mac's new top left pairing guy.

 

[BruinDust]

We are not much better, they way some in here talk you think Miller is Mac's new top left pairing guy.

Some Bruins fans still think Bergeron and Krejci were the players they were 10 years ago too.

 

[TCB]

The isles now have like 3.9 mil left in cap space with Barzal yet to sign.
The Isles need to move some salary out to make room for Barzal, no better time than the present to make an offer sheet.

Knock,Knock Donny

 

[Blowfish]

The isles now have like 3.9 mil left in cap space with Barzal yet to sign.
The Isles need to move some salary out to make room for Barzal, no better time than the present to make an offer sheet.

Knock,Knock Donny

GM s have this offer sheet thing they could "should" be leveraging but all to weak and no #$lls to act on it!

Would make hockey trades etc much more entertaining.

 

[TCB]

GM s have this offer sheet thing they could "should" be leveraging but all to weak and no #$lls to act on it!

Would make hockey trades etc much more entertaining.

Sounds like your trying to say its collusion

 

[Blowfish]

Sounds like your trying to say its collusion

No way collusion lol.

Perhaps reinserting Burke back in the mix would help.

 

[HustleB]

I think the problem with the offersheet is the draft pick compensations are too high. The team losing the player almost makes out better then they would at the trade deadline. I would like to see the cost go down on this.

Value	Current	Proposed
$0 - $1,439,820	No Compensation	No Compensation
$1,439,821 - $2,181,545	1 Third Round Pick	1 5th Round pick
$2,181,546 - $4,363,095	1 Second Round Pick	1 Third Round Pick
$4,363,096 - $6,544,640	1 First Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	1 First Round Pick
$6,544,641 - $8,726,188	1 First Round Pick, 1 Second Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	1 First Round Pick, 1 Second Round Pick
$8,726,189 - $10,907,735	2 First Round Picks, 1 Second Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	2 First Round Picks
$10,907,736 - ∞	4 First Round Picks	2 First Round Picks, 2 Second Round Picks

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[TCB]

I think the problem with the offersheet is the draft pick compensations are too high. The team losing the player almost makes out better then they would at the trade deadline. I would like to see the cost go down on this.

Value	Current	Proposed
$0 - $1,439,820	No Compensation	No Compensation
$1,439,821 - $2,181,545	1 Third Round Pick	1 5th Round pick
$2,181,546 - $4,363,095	1 Second Round Pick	1 Third Round Pick
$4,363,096 - $6,544,640	1 First Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	1 First Round Pick
$6,544,641 - $8,726,188	1 First Round Pick, 1 Second Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	1 First Round Pick, 1 Second Round Pick
$8,726,189 - $10,907,735	2 First Round Picks, 1 Second Round Pick, 1 Third Round Pick	2 First Round Picks
$10,907,736 - ∞	4 First Round Picks	2 First Round Picks, 2 Second Round Picks

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

For Dubois or Barzal I'd easily give up 2 first a second and a third. The problem is it becomes very cut throat and payback is a big possibility. It would make it a lot more interesting and GM's would need to take care of their own houses earlier and it would give the players leverage and that is exactly what owners and GM's don't want.